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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2017, 06:40:09 PM »
I knew the truth would come out eventually. Bitch deserves to be sued!

Deborah Wesson Gibson only alleged that she dated Judge Moore a few times with her mother's permission when she was 17. She also had an unimportant job. I mean are you a woman? Throwing around the word Bitch and saying she should be 'sued' makes you sound reactionary. We don't need that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/10/roy-moore-accuser-worked-for-clinton-campaign-as-interpreter-reports-say.html
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2017, 07:55:37 PM »
I don't think McConnell and company are responsibly for this but I'd bet my liver they were given the heads up.

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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2017, 07:57:52 PM »
Deborah Wesson Gibson only alleged that she dated Judge Moore a few times with her mother's permission when she was 17. She also had an unimportant job. I mean are you a woman? Throwing around the word Bitch and saying she should be 'sued' makes you sound reactionary. We don't need that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/10/roy-moore-accuser-worked-for-clinton-campaign-as-interpreter-reports-say.html
Coming out 40 years later is nothing more than a hit job sponsored by the leftists in both party's, so yeah, Bitch fits perfectly!
Welcome to the forum. But I suggest you get thicker skin and try to avoid the emotional responses.
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2017, 06:52:01 AM »
Coming out 40 years later is nothing more than a hit job sponsored by the leftists in both party's, so yeah, Bitch fits perfectly!
Welcome to the forum. But I suggest you get thicker skin and try to avoid the emotional responses.

The rest of the story ... consider Moore might have not known she was 17, I'd at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
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She recalled her mother saying she was “the luckiest girl in the world” that Moore wanted to date her, noting that he “had this godlike, almost deity status” in Gadsen, Ala., The Post reported.

WHOA!!!   Mom definitely wanted her daughter and Moore hitched, regardless of age.  If we had a recording of mom & daughter conversations, I bet they were quite interesting!  Not much imagination needed...  If Judge more had a BAD reputation, why didn't "mom" say, "Stay away from that pervert!" - no, it was more like, "If you reel that big fish in, honey, you're gonna be the luckiest girl in the world!!!   He's a really nice guy!"

And don't miss this, from the woman herself.
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Gibson alleged that she and Moore only kissed twice and said in retrospect, she’s “glad nothing bad happened.”
What she DIDN'T say, "That dirty-old-man was an Octopus, his hands were all over me, grabbing - it was horrible!"  Moore was certainly big and strong enough to overpower and have-his-way if he was a sexual predator.

"...nothing bad happened." - Which I take as, "He was a PERFECT GENTLEMAN, treated me with respect and dignity."
What the MSM, DEMS & GOPe is trying to paint Moore with, IMHO, just isn't lining up with this woman's words.  Their "goal" is to stop Moore from being elected, IMO, at any cost - and I suspect what they're projecting on Moore is their own guilt. 

It's really a stretch to say Moore is a pevert - and really a greater stretch to deny Washington DC is an honorable, moral environment, free of sexual predators (Well, in retrospect, the 3 Kennedy perverts are dead...  JFK had his teenage girls.)

Oh, forgot about that?
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A retired church worker has revealed how John F Kennedy took her virginity during a debauched 18-month affair while she was a teenage White House intern.
Mimi Alford says she felt powerless to resist the late U.S. president as he pulled her into ‘Mrs Kennedy’s room’ and seduced her on his wife’s bed.
Other claims in her newly published autobiography include that he made her inhale a sex drug during a party at Bing Crosby’s ranch and coerced her to perform a sex act on an aide while he looked on.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096770/JFK-took-virginity-White-House-intern-Mimi-Alford-19.html#ixzz4yEFcE8Ie

Maybe the Establishment hates Judge Moore because he didn't RAPE this girl, and watch her perform lewd sex acts on other interns?
IMO - someone PAID these people, or is going to PAY these accusers handsomely if Judge Moore loses.   Expect *more* crap to surface (or be completely made up), if this story continues to fail to gain traction.
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2017, 07:19:18 AM »
The rest of the story ... consider Moore might have not known she was 17, I'd at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
WHOA!!!   Mom definitely wanted her daughter and Moore hitched, regardless of age.  If we had a recording of mom & daughter conversations, I bet they were quite interesting!  Not much imagination needed...  If Judge more had a BAD reputation, why didn't "mom" say, "Stay away from that pervert!" - no, it was more like, "If you reel that big fish in, honey, you're gonna be the luckiest girl in the world!!!   He's a really nice guy!"

And don't miss this, from the woman herself.What she DIDN'T say, "That dirty-old-man was an Octopus, his hands were all over me, grabbing - it was horrible!"  Moore was certainly big and strong enough to overpower and have-his-way if he was a sexual predator.

"...nothing bad happened." - Which I take as, "He was a PERFECT GENTLEMAN, treated me with respect and dignity."
What the MSM, DEMS & GOPe is trying to paint Moore with, IMHO, just isn't lining up with this woman's words.  Their "goal" is to stop Moore from being elected, IMO, at any cost - and I suspect what they're projecting on Moore is their own guilt. 

It's really a stretch to say Moore is a pevert - and really a greater stretch to deny Washington DC is an honorable, moral environment, free of sexual predators (Well, in retrospect, the 3 Kennedy perverts are dead...  JFK had his teenage girls.)

Oh, forgot about that?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096770/JFK-took-virginity-White-House-intern-Mimi-Alford-19.html#ixzz4yEFcE8Ie

Maybe the Establishment hates Judge Moore because he didn't RAPE this girl, and watch her perform lewd sex acts on other interns?
IMO - someone PAID these people, or is going to PAY these accusers handsomely if Judge Moore loses.   Expect *more* crap to surface (or be completely made up), if this story continues to fail to gain traction.
That about sums it up Hoof.
I don't know one man that didn't find some young thing so attractive, that he was able to walk away from all the flirtations, especially when you have a mother encouraging the girl.
If not for my own mother warning me about these female predators, my life would have turned out entirely different, and more than likely divorced and in debt.

This is the South, culture is very different than other states, catching a man can be seen as a badge of honor, especially one like Moore, an up and coming leader in the state.

My mom told me, her mother told her to find where all the GI's were hanging out, this was in the 20s.
You buy new blue jeans, soak them in the tub, put them on wet and let them dry, then sachet over, and whatever man follows you home will be your choice for marrying.
I kid you not, that's how my parents met, married nearly 70 years.

So what took place in Moore's situation is nothing more than a part of the courting ritual, and as you point out, Moore was not a letch, he was looking for a young, good looking mate, which he eventually found.
Let's be honest, get em young before they're full of baggage, hate and disdain for men and treat them right and you'll be a happily married man.

I believe Moore weathered the storm, Alabamans see right through this, they also know and respect Moore's character and have absolutely no issue with his actions, and Hell, neither do I.
I think McCON-nel bit off Moore than he can chew and is about to choke to his literal political death for this abuse of power.
He wasn't elected to defeat Conservatives. This is an abuse of power and the electorate see it for what it is.
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2017, 08:11:16 AM »
That about sums it up Hoof.
I don't know one man that didn't find some young thing so attractive, that he was able to walk away from all the flirtations, especially when you have a mother encouraging the girl.
If not for my own mother warning me about these female predators, my life would have turned out entirely different, and more than likely divorced and in debt.

This is the South, culture is very different than other states, catching a man can be seen as a badge of honor, especially one like Moore, an up and coming leader in the state.

My mom told me, her mother told her to find where all the GI's were hanging out, this was in the 20s.
You buy new blue jeans, soak them in the tub, put them on wet and let them dry, then sachet over, and whatever man follows you home will be your choice for marrying.
I kid you not, that's how my parents met, married nearly 70 years.


So what took place in Moore's situation is nothing more than a part of the courting ritual, and as you point out, Moore was not a letch, he was looking for a young, good looking mate, which he eventually found.
Let's be honest, get em young before they're full of baggage, hate and disdain for men and treat them right and you'll be a happily married man.

I believe Moore weathered the storm, Alabamans see right through this, they also know and respect Moore's character and have absolutely no issue with his actions, and Hell, neither do I.
I think McCON-nel bit off Moore than he can chew and is about to choke to his literal political death for this abuse of power.
He wasn't elected to defeat Conservatives. This is an abuse of power and the electorate see it for what it is.

Same here, both my parents warned us kids of of GOLD-DIGGERS, they wanted the family business, not you.

Funny you mentioned the tight jeans, wifey had snowy white jeans for our first date...  I'll never forget those mental images - this was before spandex, leather was for Bikers, she got all kinds of attention everywhere... whistles, hoots & hollars - in addition to mine.
As soon as we got engaged, I told her, "Don't wear those again!  I want to live to marry you!"  :drool:

... and guess WHO was behind it all?  Her mom, coaching her.  I *thought* I was the guy moving on her, they had set up the whole thing - and to this day, laugh about how I got snared!  :wink:  Sexual predator - yeah, right - give me a break!  She had me hogtied in knots from the first date on!  Women have ALL the power in a relationship.

Rural Wisconsin is/was no different than Alabama.   The real definition of "a Perfect Gentleman" is "He resisted every temptation & flirtation I tried on him, I couldn't break him."  Maybe that's a girl's way of determining whether or not the guy would be faithful in marriage.

As wifey and I talk about Judge Moore, we're that much more assured, he is a FINE Perfect Gentleman... who successfully fought off advances of Gold-diggers and whores, unlike the typical DC politician.
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2017, 09:29:58 AM »
Same here, both my parents warned us kids of of GOLD-DIGGERS, they wanted the family business, not you.

Funny you mentioned the tight jeans, wifey had snowy white jeans for our first date...  I'll never forget those mental images - this was before spandex, leather was for Bikers, she got all kinds of attention everywhere... whistles, hoots & hollars - in addition to mine.
As soon as we got engaged, I told her, "Don't wear those again!  I want to live to marry you!"  :drool:

... and guess WHO was behind it all?  Her mom, coaching her.  I *thought* I was the guy moving on her, they had set up the whole thing - and to this day, laugh about how I got snared!  :wink:  Sexual predator - yeah, right - give me a break!  She had me hogtied in knots from the first date on!  Women have ALL the power in a relationship.

Rural Wisconsin is/was no different than Alabama.   The real definition of "a Perfect Gentleman" is "He resisted every temptation & flirtation I tried on him, I couldn't break him."  Maybe that's a girl's way of determining whether or not the guy would be faithful in marriage.

As wifey and I talk about Judge Moore, we're that much more assured, he is a FINE Perfect Gentleman... who successfully fought off advances of Gold-diggers and whores, unlike the typical DC politician.
That's how I see it as well, he was always a perfect gentleman, and yeah, the man pursues till she lets him capture her, all a part of the mating ritual.
Moore finally did meet the woman he wanted, and if I'm not mistaken fifteen years his youth?
So Moore liked em young? Oh Hell, he's a Man? Well let's just string that evil bastard up, he's obviously a letch, can't be trusted as evidence of his wife being by far, younger than he.

I really don't have an issue with any of this, because my first love was much younger than I. I even joined the army and had plans of marrying her and raising a family, but she had other plans and didn't include a future with me, and all for the best, she wound up being a total loser and welfare mom, fat, and now, extremely homely.
But I loved that girl and it wasn't about sex, and I can only assume Moore had the same intentions based on witness accounts.
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2017, 04:35:26 PM »
Is it too much to say, Judge Roy Moore is more Constitutionally correct than the GOPe?
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2017, 08:38:28 AM »
The circus is almost complete. FNC is reporting Gloria Allred has joined the legal team of one of the accusers.
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2017, 08:40:56 AM »
The circus is almost complete. FNC is reporting Gloria Allred has joined the legal team of one of the accusers.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
In the clown car of political frauds and hit pieces in an attempt to destroy Moores political career, she's now the driver? :lol:
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2017, 01:31:45 PM »
This isn't even interesting - not sure why all the opinions are coming out.

Aren't we a country ruled by law?

Moore's accusers have the right to file charges - unless the statute of limitation is past. And if he did go over the line with the women, then they had their chance to file a charge against him. The statute of limitations protects from filing out of convenient accusations aligned with other motivations - in the extreme. If too much time is passed, they gave up their right - right?

If a valid charge is filed, then it goes to court - and Moor is innocent until proven guilty. And if proven guilty, then he get's a sentence - goes to jail. 

I don't know - Moore might be innocent and he might guilty - but the system needs to do it's job.

It's so easy - cut and dried. It's WHY we bother with all those jokers in Congress - to give us laws that work in a diverse set of circumstances. So what's all this about? It's obviously about the election - not about the reported crimes. I don't see any laws that change presumption of innocence is you happen to be a Senator - guilty until proven innocent. But that seems to be the case here.

Let's look at The Weiner - euphemistically of course. He hung around FOREVER until he was finally tried and convicted of sexting with a minor. Dims knew he was a perv but were willing to let the law run it's course. So did the Pubs. But Moore should be put out now?   

Bigger problem ... McConnell needs someone to teach him about the rule of law - and what he's in Congress for. Apparently he missed the day they taught that the laws of Congress are applied to determine legality. McConnell's actions suggest he is unqualified as a Senator. But he might find a job writing opinion pieces for WAPO.

Roy - if you are lying and did wrong ... then, by all means, step down and take your medicine. Otherwise, fight this to the end.

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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2017, 02:22:24 PM »
And sue, sue, sue.

This is a re-run of the Trump scam.

And they'll do it some more next year, to whoever they hate the most.

Don't sue...... you just agree to keep accepting it and losing some elections to it, that you had won.

So damned sick of it.  Allred should be sued into oblivion.  There's got to be a way that she can be called to account, when her "clients" can't prove one bit of their serial slandering.

And yeah, Jebby and Bitch are in on it.  Just like McCain and Jeb with the dossier.

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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2017, 04:09:00 PM »
I've never see it, but guys say I need to check it out, 'The Walking Dead'.


Is this individual one of the Stars?  got that pasty white look, with a smile like the Joker...  just curious
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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2017, 04:29:51 PM »
This isn't even interesting - not sure why all the opinions are coming out.

Aren't we a country ruled by law?

Moore's accusers have the right to file charges - unless the statute of limitation is past. And if he did go over the line with the women, then they had their chance to file a charge against him. The statute of limitations protects from filing out of convenient accusations aligned with other motivations - in the extreme. If too much time is passed, they gave up their right - right?

If a valid charge is filed, then it goes to court - and Moor is innocent until proven guilty. And if proven guilty, then he get's a sentence - goes to jail. 

I don't know - Moore might be innocent and he might guilty - but the system needs to do it's job.

It's so easy - cut and dried. It's WHY we bother with all those jokers in Congress - to give us laws that work in a diverse set of circumstances. So what's all this about? It's obviously about the election - not about the reported crimes. I don't see any laws that change presumption of innocence is you happen to be a Senator - guilty until proven innocent. But that seems to be the case here.

Let's look at The Weiner - euphemistically of course. He hung around FOREVER until he was finally tried and convicted of sexting with a minor. Dims knew he was a perv but were willing to let the law run it's course. So did the Pubs. But Moore should be put out now?   

Bigger problem ... McConnell needs someone to teach him about the rule of law - and what he's in Congress for. Apparently he missed the day they taught that the laws of Congress are applied to determine legality. McConnell's actions suggest he is unqualified as a Senator. But he might find a job writing opinion pieces for WAPO.

Roy - if you are lying and did wrong ... then, by all means, step down and take your medicine. Otherwise, fight this to the end.

When Gloria Allred gets involved you know  its a scam. Too bad the pig rep establishment just  up and believes 40 year old charges. Why in the hell did these women get  so upset all of a sudden when Moore was in the public eye for decades? If its this easy to get rid  of reps then it might be a good idea for dems to pay women to make charges against every republican, then we would be rid  of the  party.

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Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2017, 04:31:22 PM »
Oh yea, that woman crying  on tv today was fake as hell. Has she been crying for  40 years or  just for a few seconds  in front  of a camera?

 

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