He aligned himself with radical blacks (New Black Panther Party, Nation of Islam, social justice beliefs, communist and Islamic values over western capitalism etc).  His disrespect for succesful Americans, disrespect for Britain and Israel while apologizing to the enemies of America (including Russia). These are things we have WITNESSED. Of course we KNOW certain things. I's no mystery.

Still determined to stick with that, huh?

It was OBAMA who trumpeted his "blackness" even though he was raised by liberal whites with liberal white values.  HE decided that, not the rest of us subconsciously. It is OBAMA that seems troubled by his mixed race and seems to have worked extra hard to align himself with the black culture.  Have you even read his books?  He is a deeply troubled individual over these issues and it permeates all of his decisions to destroy and rebulid America with his flawed ideas about "social justice."

Must have missed all those articles in the conservative media, that made fun of Obama's "ridiculous" claim that he was "black"/sarc. You know, as opposed to accepting it as a given?

If you are referring to my post I was merely saying along with everything else he is a liar and a fraud.

And that sums up what we absolutely know about him.

What is your argument???

FIRST you tell us 'we' (evil white culture) consider anyone with a drop of black blood (your words), that 'we' (evil white culture, places him in the "black" column.

NOW you say 'we' decide he isn't black?

He IS half black.  That's undeniable.  He's placed himself with black culture, married a black woman and has kids that are black and attends a black supremacist church.  Yeah, he's black, but he's also EQUALLY WHITE but he clearly despises that HALF.

Now are you admitting that your first observation is wrong, or will you keep throwing up dust to distract from your original error?

My argument is fairly simple. I merely pointed out that the idea of who and who isn't "black" in the US is based on the "one drop rule" as propagated by the old slave master class of the South. Not only that, but that idea has become internalized in American culture, to the point where no  one - black or white - even thinks about it any more, and simply accepts it as a given. The very first example, I used was where someone with 7 white great grandparents, and one black great grandparent is considered "black". And it isn't me "throwing dust up". What's happened is that I pointed out that you along, with not a few others, automatically considered Obozo "black" - which he is, according to long held tradition in this country. Don't feel bad or hostile. When I pointed the basis of this mindset out, many had the decency to be embarrassed that that they had fallen into of that mode of thought.  And it's not about how Obama sees himself, but about how others see him - which point was made, when I noted how he was widely considered the first "black" man elected President.

BTW, if you been following this site, you'd know that I have long since pointed out that with the exception of skin color; Obama has nothing in common with the average life experience (or the shared history) of most black Americans. I've referred to him as a white radical, with a nice tan.