I am very optimistic after the Alabama loss

Started by taxed, December 13, 2017, 11:44:50 AM

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Cryptic Bert

Quote from: Solar on December 15, 2017, 04:15:29 AM
Either willful blindness or, the nearly 2000 indictments mean nothing to some people till they actually see them in prison.
The left is running scared, they have no leadership and are starting to throw one another under the bus to save their own ass.
But because the media is doing its best to bury the good news, it is possible many aren't seeing what you and I are seeing.

They may not see it but if they are employed and able to pay the bills they won't kick out whomever has accomplished that.

Dave

Quote from: Bronx on December 14, 2017, 09:35:38 AM
I respectfully disagree. I'm not a Donald Trump fan, far from it but I am a supporter of President Trump. I believe Trump is a very head strong person who will take it all on while moving our country in somewhat the right direction. His election proves just that and who he has appointed to the courts.

He was up against everything and everybody and he stood tall and took it on the chin while dishing it out. I believe he will be alright. He's a street fighter with Tweeter as his weapon of choice. Remember the democrat hatered for this man runs deep. He took down their queen, is un-doing many of the things their boy king did and IMO what they hate most about him is he crossed over and seen what his beloved democrat party has become........communist. 

Making America Great Again (MAGA) is their kryptonite and you can feel their hate for the United States of America everytime it hits their ears. MAGA gives the commie democrats the urge to direct our commie FBI leaders to plant a coup d'etat to take down the President of the United States of America. Think about that for a mintue. MAGA makes them kneel everytime they hear our National Anthem and kill a billion dollar made in America business. It's the thorn in their flesh. It's a weapon that has to be used to expose these democrats and big government republicans for what they are............communist

First, a note on terms.  The left today in the US are not communists.  They don't need to be.  They are Marxist socialist.  More of the Fascist variety.

We can be thankful that Trump not only read the political scene in the US but has the guts to begin to make the institutional changes that need to be made.  He is currently working on what will increase jobs and GDP - growth. 
Then he needs to begin with completely revamping the whole swamp of our investigative agencies.  There is no need to have 17 of them. The CIA and FBI, the center of everything has become politicized.  After the Meuller dies, all the top political appointees must be fired.  I think the problem of jeff Sessions is not that he is incompetent, but he has no guts to fight his against the entrenched deep state. Same for the CIA. Apparently  the State Department is under an overhaul as well already. 
Such agencies as the Education department and the dismantling of the welfare state and put such ideas back to each state where they belong.  It will eliminate a lot of the power, corruption, control of a strong central government.  This will not be done without people who have the nations interests forefront and not themselves or a left idealogy. 
We will need to replace many of the RINOs who have their interests first rather than their constituents.

I don't understand why the GOG govenors and legislatures have not approved the Constitutional Convention measure.  We have enough states to get it activated, 34, as  well as almost the 38 needed to eventually approve whatever they pass.  This should be primarily a move for term limits, 12 years max for anyone.  Eventually get rid of the pension as well since 12 years terms would not require such a move.

Thanks for letting me vent. I have much more though.

Walter Josh

Quote from: Dave on December 16, 2017, 09:00:08 AM
First, a note on terms.  The left today in the US are not communists.  They don't need to be.  They are Marxist socialist.  More of the Fascist variety.

We can be thankful that Trump not only read the political scene in the US but has the guts to begin to make the institutional changes that need to be made.  He is currently working on what will increase jobs and GDP - growth. 
Then he needs to begin with completely revamping the whole swamp of our investigative agencies.  There is no need to have 17 of them. The CIA and FBI, the center of everything has become politicized.  After the Meuller dies, all the top political appointees must be fired.  I think the problem of jeff Sessions is not that he is incompetent, but he has no guts to fight his against the entrenched deep state. Same for the CIA. Apparently  the State Department is under an overhaul as well already. 
Such agencies as the Education department and the dismantling of the welfare state and put such ideas back to each state where they belong.  It will eliminate a lot of the power, corruption, control of a strong central government.  This will not be done without people who have the nations interests forefront and not themselves or a left idealogy. 
We will need to replace many of the RINOs who have their interests first rather than their constituents.

I don't understand why the GOG govenors and legislatures have not approved the Constitutional Convention measure.  We have enough states to get it activated, 34, as  well as almost the 38 needed to eventually approve whatever they pass.  This should be primarily a move for term limits, 12 years max for anyone.  Eventually get rid of the pension as well since 12 years terms would not require such a move.

Thanks for letting me vent. I have much more though.
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Hmm...........a Constitutional Convention eh?
If Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Rutledge, Jay; among other Founders were present it could be a worthy venture.
But w/our current political frauds and hustlers, such a gathering would likely be an uncontrolled disaster.
As for the GOP, it was the catalyst for what our governance has become; a statist albatross.
Post-Civil War, an ascendant GOP controlled Congress, Courts and Presidency, from Johnson till Hoover, some 70 years.
During that timeline; States Rights were emasculated and replaced by centralized power.
Various Amendments starting w/the 14th, reinforcing this shift were, promoted and enacted by the GOP.
Additionally, our accelerating Industrial Revolution, was actively aided by a rapidly growing yet non-hostile regulatory environment; spawning crony corporate capitalism.
Cold reality is that the GOP were never, ever the free traders of Smith and Ricardo; rather they were protectionists to the core as the more than 100 excise taxes, import duties and tariffs enacted during their reign attest.
Indeed we need a massive change in both our governance and politics but the GOP is hardly the answer.
When we recover the attitudes, behaviors and impulses of our Founders we will stage a re-birth.
Otherwise, we won't.


Solar

Quote from: Walter Josh on December 16, 2017, 11:46:10 AM
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Hmm...........a Constitutional Convention eh?
If Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Rutledge, Jay; among other Founders were present it could be a worthy venture.
But w/our current political frauds and hustlers, such a gathering would likely be an uncontrolled disaster.
As for the GOP, it was the catalyst for what our governance has become; a statist albatross.
Post-Civil War, an ascendant GOP controlled Congress, Courts and Presidency, from Johnson till Hoover, some 70 years.
During that timeline; States Rights were emasculated and replaced by centralized power.
Various Amendments starting w/the 14th, reinforcing this shift were, promoted and enacted by the GOP.
Additionally, our accelerating Industrial Revolution, was actively aided by a rapidly growing yet non-hostile regulatory environment; spawning crony corporate capitalism.
Cold reality is that the GOP were never, ever the free traders of Smith and Ricardo; rather they were protectionists to the core as the more than 100 excise taxes, import duties and tariffs enacted during their reign attest.
Indeed we need a massive change in both our governance and politics but the GOP is hardly the answer.
When we recover the attitudes, behaviors and impulses of our Founders we will stage a re-birth.
Otherwise, we won't.
Party plays no part in a Convention of States, in fact, if the gop'E had their way, they'd stop it immediately, but their hands are tied Constitutionally speaking.

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Cryptic Bert

One of the positives of this win is that it comes on the heels of the dems NY, NJ, VA trifecta. Winning three safe states and beating a candidate painted as a child molester has the left believing their in great shape and don't need to change a thing.

Dave

Quote from: Walter Josh on December 16, 2017, 11:46:10 AM
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Hmm...........a Constitutional Convention eh?
If Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Rutledge, Jay; among other Founders were present it could be a worthy venture.
But w/our current political frauds and hustlers, such a gathering would likely be an uncontrolled disaster.
As for the GOP, it was the catalyst for what our governance has become; a statist albatross.
Post-Civil War, an ascendant GOP controlled Congress, Courts and Presidency, from Johnson till Hoover, some 70 years.
During that timeline; States Rights were emasculated and replaced by centralized power.
Various Amendments starting w/the 14th, reinforcing this shift were, promoted and enacted by the GOP.
Additionally, our accelerating Industrial Revolution, was actively aided by a rapidly growing yet non-hostile regulatory environment; spawning crony corporate capitalism.
Cold reality is that the GOP were never, ever the free traders of Smith and Ricardo; rather they were protectionists to the core as the more than 100 excise taxes, import duties and tariffs enacted during their reign attest.
Indeed we need a massive change in both our governance and politics but the GOP is hardly the answer.
When we recover the attitudes, behaviors and impulses of our Founders we will stage a re-birth.
Otherwise, we won't.
Most of what you state is not really applicable to the issue.  Article  second paragraph deals with  the second way we can amend the
constitution.  It is a very controlled process.  Each amendment that is added must be approved by 38 state legislatures.
So, far the initial step which is the passing a resolution of application to Congress has yielded 11 states fully approved. 9 states have at least one chamber approving.
Twenty five other states are actively working on approval.  We only need 14 more before Congress must act.  They cannot reject the application.
There is always hope.