Facisnating long article on the Osama Bin Laden raid.

Virtually all of the official story was false and a lie.  In fact, the Obama administration made up a story that they got Bin Laden's dna from a vaccination clinic in Pakistan.  As a result, amny other vacciantions were closed by home governments accusing the US as using them to spy.  It turns out they got the DNA from a Pakistani and not a vaccination clinic.  How many people died as a result of this lie to cover up the true story which was that Bin Laden was a dying cripple?

There are many other falsehoods with NAVY seals fighters pissed off at Obama.  Essentially he changed the story to bolster his military credentials which probably swung the election in his manner.

Read the article when you have time.



http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden

(*giggle*) Seymour Hirsh? The guy who pegged his last great expose on the testimony of ONE un-named source?

Quote from: quiller on May 21, 2015, 05:28:59 AM
(*giggle*) Seymour Hirsh? The guy who pegged his last great expose on the testimony of ONE un-named source?

But its a source, much like the other sources.   this guy is full of sources, or as we used to say, bull shit.

Former CIA deputy director Michael Morell says that Hersh's version of the bin Laden take down is fantasy.  It also conflicts with what the Navy Seal who shot bin Laden said about the operation.

QuoteO'Neill said the report, by veteran journalist Seymour Hersh, was "full of lies."

"When I was first sent this article, I thought it was a joke," he said on Fox News. "This thing is so ludicrous it's almost an insult to the word 'ludicrous.'"
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/navy-seal-says-shot-bin-120100977.html

Quote from: Dori on May 21, 2015, 09:24:02 AM
Former CIA deputy director Michael Morell says that Hersh's version of the bin Laden take down is fantasy.  It also conflicts with what the Navy Seal who shot bin Laden said about the operation.

Oh my god the CIA director denied it!!! What a schock.

Quote from: steve folkster on May 22, 2015, 08:41:33 AM
Oh my god the CIA director denied it!!! What a schock.

I would rather believe what the Navy Seals said over some liberal hacks mysterious source saying that bin laden was chopped up and dropped out of a helicopter.

For the record, the poster who started this thread has been tossed out by CPF management. I believe the charge was Stupid in Public. Now, Steve was the bright-eyed lad who merely came here to set us all straight, see. Teach us the proper path. Instruct us.

You may wish to follow Steve's exploits under his other pen name, here....

http://www.shareinternational.info/gu2/

Quote from: quiller on May 23, 2015, 09:08:13 AM
For the record, the poster who started this thread has been tossed out by CPF management. I believe the charge was Stupid in Public. Now, Steve was the bright-eyed lad who merely came here to set us all straight, see. Teach us the proper path. Instruct us.

You may wish to follow Steve's exploits under his other pen name, here....

http://www.shareinternational.info/gu2/

I will have to talk with Lady N.  You have way too much time on your hands.   

Quote from: walkstall on May 23, 2015, 09:52:37 AM
I will have to talk with Lady N.  You have way too much time on your hands.   

I'm going to lunch now to work off that second pot of morning coffee. 

Quote from: quiller on May 23, 2015, 09:08:13 AM
For the record, the poster who started this thread has been tossed out by CPF management. I believe the charge was Stupid in Public. Now, Steve was the bright-eyed lad who merely came here to set us all straight, see. Teach us the proper path. Instruct us.

I've always wondered why these guys want to join a conservative site, when it's obvious they aren't.  Do they really think they can change our minds?  They seem so sure that their Marxist training is the correct one.  Yuri Bezmenov, the ex KGB spy, gave an interview back in the '70's.  Here are a couple of paragraphs, but I recommend you read the rest of it.  I think it explains a lot about what has happened to this country.  It's about subversion.

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It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced  by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism....

The result? The result you can see ... the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power  in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/2007/bezmenov.htm

Quote from: Dori on May 23, 2015, 10:44:29 AM
I've always wondered why these guys want to join a conservative site, when it's obvious they aren't.  Do they really think they can change our minds?  They seem so sure that their Marxist training is the correct one.  Yuri Bezmenov, the ex KGB spy, gave an interview back in the '70's.  Here are a couple of paragraphs, but I recommend you read the rest of it.  I think it explains a lot about what has happened to this country.  It's about subversion.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/2007/bezmenov.htm

I don't think they come to conservative sites trying to convert anyone. It has been my experience,on other sites,that they know it will take a lot to get them bounced, whereas if we tried the same tactics on a liberal site we'd be bounced (tombstoned) in the blink of an eye. Sometimes it's good to have them participate so it doesn't get too dull, but an unchecked leftist troll will destroy a forum in a short time. I've seen it happen more than once and I thank our admins for their diligence. We have a darn good forum that doesn't need to be destroyed by some leftist simpleton living in his mother's basement!

Quote from: tac on May 23, 2015, 11:05:47 AM
I don't think they come to conservative sites trying to convert anyone. It has been my experience,on other sites,that they know it will take a lot to get them bounced, whereas if we tried the same tactics on a liberal site we'd be bounced (tombstoned) in the blink of an eye. Sometimes it's good to have them participate so it doesn't get too dull, but an unchecked leftist troll will destroy a forum in a short time. I've seen it happen more than once and I thank our admins for their diligence. We have a darn good forum that doesn't need to be destroyed by some leftist simpleton living in his mother's basement!

Absolutely right Tac. I too have seen it happen over and over, and in every case, they seem to spread the word via Myspace, Twitter etc, to all their buddies that they'll have free reign to spew unchallenged lies.

This forum was started pretty much for these reasons, where the admin encouraged these social media groups to join the forum, only to collapse under the weight of pure idiocy.
Even though he claimed Conservative status, he had absolutely no concept of what that entailed.

Many here remember those days, and have no interest in returning.

Quote from: Dori on May 23, 2015, 10:44:29 AM
I've always wondered why these guys want to join a conservative site, when it's obvious they aren't.  Do they really think they can change our minds?  They seem so sure that their Marxist training is the correct one.  Yuri Bezmenov, the ex KGB spy, gave an interview back in the '70's.  Here are a couple of paragraphs, but I recommend you read the rest of it.  I think it explains a lot about what has happened to this country.  It's about subversion.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/2007/bezmenov.htm

I am a 60s type myself and can agree with much of Bezmenov's comment, although I do disagree that we ALL went to hell and uniformity.

Me, I got there by a different route.

Quote from: Solar on May 23, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
Absolutely right Tac. I too have seen it happen over and over, and in every case, they seem to spread the word via Myspace, Twitter etc, to all their buddies that they'll have free reign to spew unchallenged lies.

This forum was started pretty much for these reasons, where the admin encouraged these social media groups to join the forum, only to collapse under the weight of pure idiocy.
Even though he claimed Conservative status, he had absolutely no concept of what that entailed.

Many here remember those days, and have no interest in returning.

I would, if Lamont publicly apologizes for his asking me on a public board how I got a Facebook page under a fake name (and meanwhile, today, I learned there are several Yodar Critch there). He made the remark and Facebook killed my page the same week. Those liberal kiddies leaped all over it.

It isn't just what I prefer to call Another Place™ or "Lamont's place," but it's really pretty indicative of most political sites. Camps gather, usually consciously. Wars erupt. Dissent rages. Trolls pour gas on the flames. A bad sour taste in left in the casual visitor's mind.

Bad ju-ju. Stick a spear in the troll. Maybe he'll add flavor to the missionary stew.