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Offline Walter Josh

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Re: COMMUNISM AND LIBERALISM ARE DIFFERENT POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES!!!!!
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2018, 09:40:29 PM »
Yep, there's a reason the left is in constant flux where their nomenclature is concerned, take Liberal for example, usurped from Classic liberalism, the original Conservative.
Progressive was first used in the communist manifesto by Marx "progressive income tax", and when the left trashed the meaning of liberalism, they readopted the term Progressive.
I wrote a short essay on the subject stating that the Dim party has trashed the term Progressive as well, and is about to adopt, for the first time in the party's history, "Social Democrat party USA.
It's who and what they are, and they've already adopted the platform, so why lie about themselves any longer?
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On the mark.
All this back and forth brings to mind 'Humpty Dumpty's Theory of Language' (From Lewis Carroll's "Alice Through the Looking Glass").
Scene from Wonderland w/ HD on a high wall looking down on the road and Alice walking along the road, looking up.
HD:   That glory was indeed spectacular.
Alice: I don't know what you mean by glory.
HD:    When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean; more or less.
Alice: The question is whether you can make words mean so many different things.
HD:    Actually, the question is which is to be master; that is all.
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Wonder if Mr.Jones would appreciate Carroll's wisdom articulated here?



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Re: COMMUNISM AND LIBERALISM ARE DIFFERENT POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES!!!!!
« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2018, 05:50:09 AM »
Communism and liberalism are two different political ideologies. Communism cannot be termed liberalism and liberalism cannot be termed as communism as the two have distinct features that separate them.

Liberalism is an ideology that believes in individual freedom. Liberalism is a political ideology that thinks that an individual is free from all interferences and restrictions. On the other hand, communism does not give any emphasis to individual freedom. Communism is a political ideology that stands for equality of all. Communism pertains to the welfare of the society or community. It stands for a stateless or class less society.

In communism, power is equally shared by everyone. But in Liberalism there is no power sharing but every one considers being free from the other. While Communism gives priority to the welfare of a society, liberalism gives priority to the rights of an individual. Communism does not think that an individual is above others.

When talking about economy, Liberalism thinks of a free market but in Communism, it is the community or society that controls the economy and means of production. The profit is equally shared in communism.

When Liberalism focuses on a balance between individual and community responsibilities, Communism focuses entirely on community responsibility.

Communism is an ideology that entirely revolves round the good will of a community. On the other hand, Liberalism has its base on individuals only.

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1. Liberalism is a political ideology that thinks that an individual is free from all interferences and restrictions. Communism does not give any emphasis to individual freedom. It is a political ideology that stands for equality of all.
2. In communism, power is equally shared by everyone. But in Liberalism there is no power sharing but every one considers being free from the other.
3. Communism gives priority to the welfare of a society, liberalism gives priority to the rights of an individual.
4. There may be some form of government in Liberalism but in Communism there is no government as it implies a class less and state less society.
5. Liberalism focuses on a balance between individual and community responsibilities. Communism focuses entirely on community responsibility.

"In communism, power is equally shared by everyone."

Do you actually believe that statement?
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Re: COMMUNISM AND LIBERALISM ARE DIFFERENT POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES!!!!!
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2018, 06:30:14 AM »
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On the mark.
All this back and forth brings to mind 'Humpty Dumpty's Theory of Language' (From Lewis Carroll's "Alice Through the Looking Glass").
Scene from Wonderland w/ HD on a high wall looking down on the road and Alice walking along the road, looking up.
HD:   That glory was indeed spectacular.
Alice: I don't know what you mean by glory.
HD:    When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean; more or less.
Alice: The question is whether you can make words mean so many different things.
HD:    Actually, the question is which is to be master; that is all.
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Wonder if Mr.Jones would appreciate Carroll's wisdom articulated here?
Spot on! And sir, you have an amazing recall, I had completely forgotten those lines, but they do apply quite well.
And no, I do not believe he ever made the connection, he's obviously too young to have made any historical connections of any kind to any political group, he doesn't even know that there is no such thing as a liberal in the Dim party anymore, they all abandoned it when the Marxist showed they have no interest in helping the country, only destroying it.
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Clean up in aisle one through three.           

I have merged all of young garyjones027 trolling posts into one.
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Clean up in aisle one through three.           

I have merged all of young garyjones027 trolling posts into one.
Thank you, sir.
Something tells me, his next appearance will be in the form of a sock puppet reanimating this thread in about a week with another BS post.
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Thank you, sir.
Something tells me, his next appearance will be in the form of a sock puppet reanimating this thread in about a week with another BS post.


You give it that long.   :lol:
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession.  I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.  ~ Ronald Reagan ~

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

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Re: Should it be a federal crime to criticize president Trump?
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2018, 10:57:00 AM »
I think anyone who criticizes president Trump should be charged with HIGH TREASON!

You mean the same way you Liberals treated Conservatives when we dare say something about the anointed one?
First Amendment isn't just Freedom Of Speech, it's Freedom Of Conscience.

Who made you the arbiter of morality? You are not Government but you sure are acting like one.

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Re: Should it be a federal crime to criticize president Trump?
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2018, 11:24:00 AM »
You mean the same way you Liberals treated Conservatives when we dare say something about the anointed one?
You racist! :biggrin:
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Gary,

What is the difference between the 'classical liberalism' of our founders and the modern day 'progressive liberalism' of obama?
If your answer is, "Nothing", you may be libtarded.
You prbly caught it from fake news.

Modern Conservatives=Classical Liberals

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Indeed Mr. Hunt.
Now if you could adopt Mr Jones for a week or so and show him the error of his ways.
Just a thought.

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Indeed Mr. Hunt.
Now if you could adopt Mr Jones for a week or so and show him the error of his ways.
Just a thought.
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Teach him something. Trolls just don't have it like they used to. If that's the best gary can do, he is wasting everyone's time. It's way too lame. Yeah, I remember the good ol days when the trolls would do their research with the lsm media and come here heavily armed to post a lengthy article of what I am sure they thought was outstanding facts just to be chewed up and spit out. Several would come back with more "facts" and get chewed up again. and again. Some might say thats a waste of time, but for every troll that got chewed up, there were other viewer,(myself included) who learned alot. So, Gary, please go to the lsm and get something so the next time you post it can at least be interesting.


maybe we need a troll school?

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Gary,

What is the difference between the 'classical liberalism' of our founders and the modern day 'progressive liberalism' of obama?
If your answer is, "Nothing", you may be libtarded.
You prbly caught it from fake news.

Modern Conservatives=Classical Liberals
I already asked, he's chosen to run off, but he'll be back with another sock puppet and bump the thread with another fantasy lib reply.

I'll never understand these myopic kids with born in blinders. They get butt hurt when they hear the truth, then run around in circles trying to disprove actual historical evidence, as if those of us that lived it, saw it all wrong. :blink:
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Teach him something. Trolls just don't have it like they used to. If that's the best gary can do, he is wasting everyone's time. It's way too lame. Yeah, I remember the good ol days when the trolls would do their research with the lsm media and come here heavily armed to post a lengthy article of what I am sure they thought was outstanding facts just to be chewed up and spit out. Several would come back with more "facts" and get chewed up again. and again. Some might say thats a waste of time, but for every troll that got chewed up, there were other viewer,(myself included) who learned alot. So, Gary, please go to the lsm and get something so the next time you post it can at least be interesting.


maybe we need a troll school?
I know I called him a troll, but I see him more as troll lite. He believes what he says is the truth, and for him, it is, only because he's never learned the actual truth, the full picture of history, only what our fucked up school system indoctrinated him with.
I like them posting, but honestly, I prefer a more challenging class, not one that forces you to teach the very basics, which is what Gary has done, made us define the very basics of political systems, something most people are prepared for when they venture into a political climate.

It's akin to watching the history channel for real history...Sarcasm there big time. :laugh:

Or Gilligans Island and thinking he could survive if he ever made the misfortune of being stranded on a South Seas island.
Maybe he better rent the complete edition of Survivor too, so he can be an expert from day one, no learning process for him... :biggrin:
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If the guy's a little schmuck in high school, I get it.  I try to be nice to kids regardless of their dumbassery.  But if they tromp into an adult conversation with childish ignorance and teen-angst arrogance....... then all bets are off.  Time to STFU and go back and do some legitimate study.

If he's an adult, the fuggim.  He's an annoying twat that should be kicked square in the ass, or the internet equivalent anyway.  Hopefully he gets a real kick in the ass in real life too.  If he goes out in public.

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If the guy's a little schmuck in high school, I get it.  I try to be nice to kids regardless of their dumbassery.  But if they tromp into an adult conversation with childish ignorance and teen-angst arrogance....... then all bets are off.  Time to STFU and go back and do some legitimate study.

If he's an adult, the fuggim.  He's an annoying twat that should be kicked square in the ass, or the internet equivalent anyway.  Hopefully he gets a real kick in the ass in real life too.  If he goes out in public.
I'd venture a guess a teacher has convinced him capitalism is evil, communism has yet to be applied correctly.
Yeah, the lib dream, that oppressive govt hasn't yet been used properly, the Progressive wet dream of forcing people to your will and way of thinking will make them happy, they just have yet to appreciate the Progressives style of slavery.
This nimrod has been given ample evidence from people who've lived long enough to witness the failures of communism and appreciate what a Constitutional Republic has to offer.

It's obvious he has no interest in learning the truth, because it will expose the fact that he was lied to, and worst of all, he'll have to admit his level of gullibility puts him at a 5th-grade level.
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