Heres an example of TRUTHFact-checking Gov. Christie's favorite budget boasts

Started by zip, March 06, 2011, 08:11:11 AM

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Fact-checking Gov. Christie's favorite budget boasts
CHRISTIE: Says he closed an $11 billion budget deficit without raising any taxes.
THE FACTS: People paid more in taxes last year


HERES THE BIG ONE...now pay attention

Much of the gap Christie closed was done by skipping a $3.1 billion pension payment.

Now I know you all had orgasms reading that...YAY a teaparty guy screwed the working class AGAIN...YAY CHRISTIE FOR PRESIDENT....everyone wont see it that way..

Solar MY FRIEND and your one of the few I consider a cyber buddy...you cant convince me this isnt reverse classwarfare so the RICH can have MOAR AND MOAR AND MOAR..


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/fact-checking_gov_christies_fa.html

tbone0106

Quote from: zip on March 06, 2011, 08:11:11 AM
Fact-checking Gov. Christie's favorite budget boasts
CHRISTIE: Says he closed an $11 billion budget deficit without raising any taxes.
THE FACTS: People paid more in taxes last year


HERES THE BIG ONE...now pay attention

Much of the gap Christie closed was done by skipping a $3.1 billion pension payment.

Now I know you all had orgasms reading that...YAY a teaparty guy screwed the working class AGAIN...YAY CHRISTIE FOR PRESIDENT....everyone wont see it that way..

Solar MY FRIEND and your one of the few I consider a cyber buddy...you cant convince me this isnt reverse classwarfare so the RICH can have MOAR AND MOAR AND MOAR..


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/fact-checking_gov_christies_fa.html


M-O-R-E, zip.

taxed

Quote from: zip on March 06, 2011, 08:11:11 AM
Fact-checking Gov. Christie's favorite budget boasts
CHRISTIE: Says he closed an $11 billion budget deficit without raising any taxes.
THE FACTS: People paid more in taxes last year


HERES THE BIG ONE...now pay attention

Much of the gap Christie closed was done by skipping a $3.1 billion pension payment.

Now I know you all had orgasms reading that...YAY a teaparty guy screwed the working class AGAIN...YAY CHRISTIE FOR PRESIDENT....everyone wont see it that way..

Solar MY FRIEND and your one of the few I consider a cyber buddy...you cant convince me this isnt reverse classwarfare so the RICH can have MOAR AND MOAR AND MOAR..


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/fact-checking_gov_christies_fa.html


Where did Christie raise taxes, zip?
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zip


zip

Quote from: taxed on March 06, 2011, 11:00:34 AM
Where did Christie raise taxes, zip?

        Re read my post, I didnt say he raised taxs...the article just points out hes full of shit...

  Christie Whitman stole from the pension every single year she was gov by not paying the states share..

   Christie didnt pay 3.1 billion of his share...all the while state workers paid their 7-9% faithfully...they stole from the working class to give to the rich....
     The deserve nothing less than an all out campaign to make the working class know what they are about...

  Know what I noticed how come all the folks that hide behind the word CONSERVATIVE when confronted with anything they cant disprove the Throw out line insults like the brilliant Tbone....just to let you know that shit doesnt phase me one bit...I didnt back up in the military I didnt back up as a cop and I wont back up now.

   So call me a marxist..pfffffffft...call me a liberal pffffffft call me a communist pfffffffft call me whatever the F you want all I am an ever was...was a guy that got out bed and went to work and did the best job he could...just like 99% of all govt workers...the teaparty far right douchebags started this war...I will see it through to my last breath.

taxed

Quote from: zip on March 06, 2011, 11:10:45 AM
        Re read my post, I didnt say he raised taxs...the article just points out hes full of shit...
Not it doesn't.  It just shows your disconnect from reality.  He says he didn't raise taxes.  You disputed that.  Then you say you never said that.  At least try not to run away in the very post you are trying to make a point in.


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  Christie Whitman stole from the pension every single year she was gov by not paying the states share..
You probably need to go do your homework some more.  Do your benefits include an on-call reader?


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   Christie didnt pay 3.1 billion of his share...all the while state workers paid their 7-9% faithfully...they stole from the working class to give to the rich....
     The deserve nothing less than an all out campaign to make the working class know what they are about...
It's more that your brain is on an adult topic well beyond the reach of your intellect.  Don't take that the wrong way.


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  Know what I noticed how come all the folks that hide behind the word CONSERVATIVE when confronted with anything they cant disprove the Throw out line insults like the brilliant Tbone....just to let you know that shit doesnt phase me one bit...I didnt back up in the military I didnt back up as a cop and I wont back up now.
The day you show proof of anyone degrading union workers is the day you will be closer to making a point.

Also, you aren't conservative,  just so you know.  You may like the idea of trying to be one, but you have proved you aren't.


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   So call me a marxist..pfffffffft...call me a liberal pffffffft call me a communist pfffffffft call me whatever the F you want all I am an ever was...was a guy that got out bed and went to work and did the best job he could...just like 99% of all govt workers...the teaparty far right douchebags started this war...I will see it through to my last breath.
Big deal.  Everyone gets out of bed to go to work.  It really isn't that difficult, if you have an alarm clock.  Well, it isn't that big of a deal to those of us who want to get up and be productive.
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zip

Not it doesn't.  It just shows your disconnect from reality.  He says he didn't raise taxes.  You disputed that.  Then you say you never said that.  At least try not to run away in the very post you are trying to make a point in.

  can you read...no where did I say he raised taxs, the article says he claimed to have cut taxs and people paid more but thats another one of taxed classic dodges


You probably need to go do your homework some more.  Do your benefits include an on-call reader?

   Thats a bs dodge to not address whitman was a crooked douchebag...


The day you show proof of anyone degrading union workers is the day you will be closer to making a point.

   I dont have to show proof...you should have been reading arpads posts and many others....that degraded  public workers...you should LISTEN more to pig piggy and the little rich jerkoff in wisc....taxed learn something before you talk

Now this is my favorite one to answer

Also, you aren't conservative,  just so you know.  You may like the idea of trying to be one, but you have proved you aren't.

  Your damn right im not a taxed or arpad conservative and I never want to be...your not a conservative you just hide behind the word...like you do all your nonesense based on nothing statements.

Big deal.  Everyone gets out of bed to go to work.  It really isn't that difficult, if you have an alarm clock.  Well, it isn't that big of a deal to those of us who want to get up and be productive.

   Its not a big deal to get out of bed and go to work...whats a big deal is when scumbags that call themselves conservatives steal from them...


   I noticed you totally glossed over your Pig hero christie robbed the pension of another 3.1 billion...but you like that so you just acted like you didnt read that...lol gotta love these phony conservatives

   Doesnt matter taxed in the end theres alot more of me in this country than you....theres more that made their way than were born with a spoon sticking out of thier ass and grew up callous and greedy and self centered....you know the kind of american that never did a Fn thing for this country but take whatever they can.

   
   


   






taxed

Is it that difficult to use the quoting feature?

No zip, there are a lot less of you.  Most normal people would agree there needs to be cuts in government, and reducing the burden on us tax payers.

I bet it was impossible for your mother to ween you off breast feeding.
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Solar

Quote from: zip on March 06, 2011, 08:11:11 AM
Fact-checking Gov. Christie's favorite budget boasts
CHRISTIE: Says he closed an $11 billion budget deficit without raising any taxes.
THE FACTS: People paid more in taxes last year


HERES THE BIG ONE...now pay attention

Much of the gap Christie closed was done by skipping a $3.1 billion pension payment.

Now I know you all had orgasms reading that...YAY a teaparty guy screwed the working class AGAIN...YAY CHRISTIE FOR PRESIDENT....everyone wont see it that way..

Solar MY FRIEND and your one of the few I consider a cyber buddy...you cant convince me this isnt reverse classwarfare so the RICH can have MOAR AND MOAR AND MOAR..


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/fact-checking_gov_christies_fa.html

Gee Zip, here are the actual facts, without your spin.

CHRISTIE: State workers got a 7 percent salary increase this year. THE FACTS: They did in July 2010. But that's because they deferred for 18 months a 3.5 percent raise in 2009 as part of a deal with former Gov. Jon Corzine that guaranteed no layoffs. The 7 percent Christie cites combines the 3.5 percent raises over two years.

CHRISTIE: "We've cut spending two years in a row."
THE FACTS: When you take out federal stimulus money in the budget, spending of state dollars is basically flat from year to year. The governor also counts a $500 million pension payment the state has not yet made as part of the 2011 fiscal year budget — inflating the 2011 budget year number even though the dollars have not, and may not, be spent in that year.
he didn't lie, and he will still have to pay the pension bill, a bill that you and I paid with our tax dollars in the form of Husein' stimulus package.
But your spin that it is somehow "reverse class warfare" is a figment of your imagination.
But Zip, doesn't $3.1 billion pension payment, strike you as a bit ridiculous?
Show me a private company that has that kind og baggage that is still in business.




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tbone0106

Hey Solar, what's REALLY scary is the fact that the $3.1 billion/year for NJ state pensions just covers the cost of what's being paid out. The fund needs $7 billion/year MORE (or is that MOAR) every year for the foreseeable future to cover future payouts.  :o

Solar

Quote from: tbone0106 on March 06, 2011, 04:21:36 PM
Hey Solar, what's REALLY scary is the fact that the $3.1 billion/year for NJ state pensions just covers the cost of what's being paid out. The fund needs $7 billion/year MORE (or is that MOAR) every year for the foreseeable future to cover future payouts.  :o
Yet Zip doesn't seem to understand that figure will continue to grow every year unless some cuts are made.
Why should the tax payer be footing the bill?
I'm sorry, but these Gov workers are making a far better living than the people paying their wages.
That in itself simply isn't fair, gov employees should never make more than the average private citizen...
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taxed

Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2011, 07:03:00 PM
Yet Zip doesn't seem to understand that figure will continue to grow every year unless some cuts are made.
Why should the tax payer be footing the bill?
I'm sorry, but these Gov workers are making a far better living than the people paying their wages.
That in itself simply isn't fair, gov employees should never make more than the average private citizen...

And zip sees this as an attack on "the working man", but it is just common sense.
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Solar

Quote from: taxed on March 06, 2011, 07:05:49 PM
And zip sees this as an attack on "the working man", but it is just common sense.
Yep, but he and I pat ways on a Gov worker being considered middle class.
When someone gets all the benefits they do, along with twice the pay of the average worker in the Country, that puts them in the rich bracket.

Can't speak for Wis. but here in Ca. a State worker can retire with 90% of their highest earnings.
That means if they worked as a flunky for 20 years, but the last three or more years they made five times what they had been making, their retirement will be based on their highest average.
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Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2011, 07:21:22 PM
Yep, but he and I pat ways on a Gov worker being considered middle class.
When someone gets all the benefits they do, along with twice the pay of the average worker in the Country, that puts them in the rich bracket.

Can't speak for Wis. but here in Ca. a State worker can retire with 90% of their highest earnings.
That means if they worked as a flunky for 20 years, but the last three or more years they made five times what they had been making, their retirement will be based on their highest average.

That is unreal.
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People like ZIP don't get it.  At a certain point you have a taxation that is confiscatory.  When the people are being raped by the very people that are there to "help them".  Contempt is bred. 

ZIPPERHEADS or ZIP, in this case, don't understand that there is not an endless supply of money.  My social security retirement age has changed 4 times since my first payment.  Should I be upset with that?  Sure because the system is broken but not fixing it is just another sign of denial and liberal ignorance...

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