Bump stock ban - What does it mean?

Started by Solar, December 20, 2018, 04:11:32 PM

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Sick Of Silence

Quote from: s3779m on December 24, 2018, 03:13:49 AM
The legal experts will have to decide if this is a ban on the second amendment. The bump stock by itself is not a gun
or a part that a gun must have in order to function. Trump's ban does not ban the gun. My ar is just fine without one, and a bump stock without the ar is just a piece of junk. About all I can see that this ban did was put the liberals in a difficult position. Liberal could support the ban, which they do, but that would be supporting Trump's authority to ban them, (something I am against, I do not want any other President to be able to ban anything) or they could find a liberal judge to rule the ban unconstitutional (in order to limit Trump's power) which would open a while nother can of worms, mainly if a part that allows a ar to function like a m16 is unconstitutional, wouldn't the ban on the m16 be unconstitutional? If this case would make it to the scotus, could roberts pull his head out of his butt long enough to make a intelligent decision on it? Unfortunately, stand your ground has nothing to do with this ban and would not be helped by it.

It's another part of the infringement of our 2nd Amendment. States shouldn't have to make those types of laws. It's a God-given Right. It should be automatic.

The 2nd Amendment says nothing about accessories. They are considered part of the gun. If I duct-taped a flashlight on a rifle like Carl on "Caddyshack", it would be part of the gun. It says "shall not be infringed"

The main reason for the 2nd Amendment is defense against government tyranny. An extension of that is defense against private tyranny (defending your property, family, or self).
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

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Quote from: Sick Of Silence on December 24, 2018, 08:52:57 AM
It's another part of the infringement of our 2nd Amendment. States shouldn't have to make those types of laws. It's a God-given Right. It should be automatic.

The 2nd Amendment says nothing about accessories. They are considered part of the gun. If I duct-taped a flashlight on a rifle like Carl on "Caddyshack", it would be part of the gun. It says "shall not be infringed"

The main reason for the 2nd Amendment is defense against government tyranny. An extension of that is defense against private tyranny (defending your property, family, or self).
I have searched for a court case that backs this up and can not find one. On your example, I know of no instance where a flashlight was banned, or covered by the 2nd amendment for that matter. Accessories are just that, accessories. If I wanted a machine gun, should I be allowed to buy one, or should I have to buy accessories to change what I have. That is the question I would like to see the scotus answer, why are there bans on certain guns, and how will they justify it.

Sick Of Silence

Quote from: s3779m on December 24, 2018, 09:23:49 AM
I have searched for a court case that backs this up and can not find one. On your example, I know of no instance where a flashlight was banned, or covered by the 2nd amendment for that matter. Accessories are just that, accessories. If I wanted a machine gun, should I be allowed to buy one, or should I have to buy accessories to change what I have. That is the question I would like to see the scotus answer, why are there bans on certain guns, and how will they justify it.

Government has machine guns. We need machine guns. Mutually assure destruction to keep the government in check. That's how it works when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. Anything else is Liberal judges doubling down on the infringement of our Rights.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

Solar

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on December 24, 2018, 08:52:57 AM
It's another part of the infringement of our 2nd Amendment. States shouldn't have to make those types of laws. It's a God-given Right. It should be automatic.

The 2nd Amendment says nothing about accessories. They are considered part of the gun. If I duct-taped a flashlight on a rifle like Carl on "Caddyshack", it would be part of the gun. It says "shall not be infringed"

The main reason for the 2nd Amendment is defense against government tyranny. An extension of that is defense against private tyranny (defending your property, family, or self).
This has always bothered me, because if memory serves me, all 13 Colonies had to sign on to the bill of Rights and agree to its adherents to create the fed gubmint.
Funny how that eventually morphed into States Rights and no longer having to adhere to our Founding Documents.
If not for the States, there would be no Federal govt, so states feet should have been held to the fire and forced to follow the letter of the law.
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Solar

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on December 24, 2018, 09:39:02 AM
Government has machine guns. We need machine guns. Mutually assure destruction to keep the government in check. That's how it works when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. Anything else is Liberal judges doubling down on the infringement of our Rights.
You and most here won't believe this, but gun bans all have the NRA's fingerprints all over them.
That's right, the NRA is all about Gun Legislation, not Gun Rights.
I'd post a link, but I want people to do their own research, instead of simply taking my word for it and forgetting about it till the next questionable stunt they pull.
Case in point, they back Trump on his EO to ban bump stocks. The upside is, it's only an EO, not really law.
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