Hartford School Shooting

Started by Darth Fife, December 14, 2012, 11:28:56 AM

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Yawn

The Left blames the "tool" and ignores the years of liberal indoctrination that created these soulless monsters.  The truth is, liberalism has created this generation of soulless killers  They live worthless lives and Obama has left the country with a sense of hopelessness and desperation and the prospect that their way of live will be much worse than the lives of their parents.  They see these murders as a way of "leaving their mark" and being famous for at least something.  But the Left will never examine themselves and demand that we ban the tool.

Yawn

Quote from: mrclose on December 14, 2012, 05:49:34 PM

:thumbsup:  I think that's how the Founder envisioned Lady Liberty (armed and ready to defend Liberty), but it was a gift from the French.   :lol:


The Stranger

Quote from: kramarat on December 14, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
I welled up with tears today when I heard this story. Almost jumped in the van and went to get my daughter from kindergarten.

I go with scenario #2. The people that work at schools get a full background check, psych eval, carry a concealed firearm, and know how to use it.

These bastards won't be in such a hurry to get on the news, if they know they will be dropped the instant they pull out a gun.
The headline news will be......................"Another Tragedy Prevented". End of story.

Don't wish to disagree but the Media wouldn't cover it unless it fit their agenda!


I am not an athiest, and I am praying for the poor families of these innocent victims. I'm sure that most of the parents of these 20 murdered kids, already have their Christmas presents wrapped for them. I can't possibly imagine their anguish. :cry:
"Every man is like the company he keeps."
"Show me your friends and I'll show you your Future"

The Stranger

Quote from: Yawn on December 14, 2012, 05:05:41 PM
The Left blames the "tool" and ignores the years of liberal indoctrination that created these soulless monsters.  The truth is, liberalism has created this generation of soulless killers  They live worthless lives and Obama has left the country with a sense of hopelessness and desperation and the prospect that their way of live will be much worse than the lives of their parents.  They see these murders as a way of "leaving their mark" and being famous for at least something.  But the Left will never examine themselves and demand that we ban the tool.

Wow well said. :thumbsup:
"Every man is like the company he keeps."
"Show me your friends and I'll show you your Future"

kramarat

Quote from: The Stranger on December 15, 2012, 06:38:01 AM


I agree completely. The media is a branch of the democrat party.

I've got a separate, and contentious argument brewing on FB over this entire subject. The usual suspects calling for gun control.

Just 5 minutes ago I posted this:
Hold on a second..............I'll copy and paste my last two posts.

Him-  As said Mark, while the paranoia of the Forefathers rules the thinking, you can't change this.

Me- Yeah Drake, I guess you're right. I don't know what the forefathers were thinking. Never before in history, had the government become the enemy of the people. What a bunch of dummies.
Even today, all government is good, all around the world. To think otherwise would be paranoid. ;-)



Me- Perhaps you're missing the irony..................

Armed American citizens is a bad thing that should be eliminated.

Arming rebel forces across the mid east, and helping them to overthrow their governments is a good thing.

keyboarder

Quote from: kramarat on December 15, 2012, 06:53:50 AM
I agree completely. The media is a branch of the democrat party.

I've got a separate, and contentious argument brewing on FB over this entire subject. The usual suspects calling for gun control.

Just 5 minutes ago I posted this:
Hold on a second..............I'll copy and paste my last two posts.

Him-  As said Mark, while the paranoia of the Forefathers rules the thinking, you can't change this.

Me- Yeah Drake, I guess you're right. I don't know what the forefathers were thinking. Never before in history, had the government become the enemy of the people. What a bunch of dummies.
Even today, all government is good, all around the world. To think otherwise would be paranoid. ;-)



Me- Perhaps you're missing the irony..................

Armed American citizens is a bad thing that should be eliminated.

Arming rebel forces across the mid east, and helping them to overthrow their governments is a good thing.


Straight to the point and well said!  I heard so many different accounts about this tragedy yesterday that I'm still not sure what the truth is and what was just overzealousness of the media to be the first with the most.  What they all agreed on was the horrific nature of this tragedy.  Then, as you would expect, out trots the different ones called in by different news anchors to give us some perspective, among which was a psychologist .  If you had a dictionary you could have figured out what he was so eloquently trying to say.  In essence, this person was giving his very liberal evaluation of what might have caused this and what should be done about gun carry.  Never did he ever say anything about how the school officials were trained to deal with such events but did say they were trained.  We know by now that none of the school's adm. were trained to carry on school property, so how were they trained since from all subsequent accounts I'd heard was of what you'd think, mayhem with the bravest of the bunch being children that tried to lead other children from the danger.  This same news anchor got such a thrill out of announcing to listeners that soon we'd be hearing from that person in the WH masquerading as the president of the US.  At this point I almost broke down myself.  What could this president ever say that would bring comfort to the many families affected by this tragedy?  Connecticut?  On second thought, didn't they overwhelmingly vote for him?  Either way, my guess is that none of the family members could have cared who he was at that point in their lives, they had lost their children and nothing or no one was going to lessen their grief or bring their children back to the safety of loving parents.  I could not listen to the address of the president but am told by friends that he did what he usually does in cases of such opportunity.  Yes, never let a good opportunity go to waste, started in on his agenda of getting rid of the guns.  Like this is going to make an insane world saner.  All it will do is make us, his enemy, more vulnerable.  How vulnerable was this school?  Who targets babies except the crazy left or terrorists?
.If you want to lead the orchestra, you must turn your back to the crowd      Forbes

kramarat

Quote from: keyboarder on December 15, 2012, 07:42:21 AM
Straight to the point and well said!  I heard so many different accounts about this tragedy yesterday that I'm still not sure what the truth is and what was just overzealousness of the media to be the first with the most.  What they all agreed on was the horrific nature of this tragedy.  Then, as you would expect, out trots the different ones called in by different news anchors to give us some perspective, among which was a psychologist .  If you had a dictionary you could have figured out what he was so eloquently trying to say.  In essence, this person was giving his very liberal evaluation of what might have caused this and what should be done about gun carry.  Never did he ever say anything about how the school officials were trained to deal with such events but did say they were trained.  We know by now that none of the school's adm. were trained to carry on school property, so how were they trained since from all subsequent accounts I'd heard was of what you'd think, mayhem with the bravest of the bunch being children that tried to lead other children from the danger.  This same news anchor got such a thrill out of announcing to listeners that soon we'd be hearing from that person in the WH masquerading as the president of the US.  At this point I almost broke down myself.  What could this president ever say that would bring comfort to the many families affected by this tragedy?  Connecticut?  On second thought, didn't they overwhelmingly vote for him?  Either way, my guess is that none of the family members could have cared who he was at that point in their lives, they had lost their children and nothing or no one was going to lessen their grief or bring their children back to the safety of loving parents.  I could not listen to the address of the president but am told by friends that he did what he usually does in cases of such opportunity.  Yes, never let a good opportunity go to waste, started in on his agenda of getting rid of the guns.  Like this is going to make an insane world saner.  All it will do is make us, his enemy, more vulnerable.  How vulnerable was this school?  Who targets babies except the crazy left or terrorists?

I'm not listening to Obama, or any other news on this subject today. It all makes me sick.

Let me know if you happen to hear a psychologist point out that these horrible events seem to be increasing in lockstep with the liberal indoctrination of our young. I'll turn on the TV.

Patriot

Reading that the some libs saying anyone who is a member of the NRA or GOP has blood on their hands.

Yawn

Quote from: USAPatriot on December 15, 2012, 09:15:48 AM
Let me know if you happen to hear a psychologist point out that these horrible events seem to be increasing in lockstep with the liberal indoctrination of our young. I'll turn on the TV.

That's exactly what's going on

kramarat

Quote from: Yawn on December 15, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
That's exactly what's going on

I know. I was being facetious. :wink:

We are raising our kids in insulated little bubbles, rather than allowing them to experience the emotional and physical bumps and scrapes that come with life, and when they get spit out onto the street, they have no idea how to handle the ugly truth...............................and some of them snap. It's really no more complicated than that. The good intentions of the confused left. Shit keeps getting worse, and they keep saying that we must do more.

NO...............we must do less!

Darth Fife

Quote from: USAPatriot on December 15, 2012, 09:15:48 AM
Reading that the some libs saying anyone who is a member of the NRA or GOP has blood on their hands.

And they make that claim at the very same moment (for some of them) that they are make uber-violent movies such as Blue Velvet, Natural Born Killers, etc, etc, which glorifies senseless violence and desensitizes its audience to the suffering of others.

If anyone has blood on their hands, it's Hollywood and the Liberal Entertainment Complex.


NinetyNine

Hello. I am new to this forum and live in a blue state. I just have to share an exchange and conversation that I have had, in one form or another, over and over since the shooting.

Me: "I am from Texas. I was raised around guns. All of my family members owned guns. None of them are violent. I think it is very tragic and sad what has happened but I am still in favor of the right to own guns."

Other person: "How could you? What is wrong with people like you? Gun nuts always hide behind their second amendment rights! When the founding fathers wrote the constitution, there was no such thing as an automatic weapon that could gun down dozens of innocent children in one sweep."

Me (grudgingly): "Actually, yes, I am pretty conservative but this is true. Maybe people could still have the right to own rifles and handguns for protection while tougher laws could be passed on automatic weapons. We should possibly look at the media's role in this too. After all, when the founding fathers wrote the constitution, we did not have mass media, either. We did not have 24-hour news channels that broadcast images of violence over and over, or video games that encouraged children, teens, and young adults to think about what it might be like to gun down dozens of people at a time. We also did not have journalists making heroes out of monsters like these by making them virtual overnight celebrities, basically rewarding their behavior by giving them exactly the kind of attention they sought in the first place. So maybe we should pass stricter laws on the media, too."

Other person: "HOW DARE YOU? HOW DARE YOU THREATEN MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS BY QUESTIONING THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS? WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU?"

True story. I hear it over and over again. Apparently, it is perfectly ok to question the Second Amendment but not ok to ever question the wisdom of the First, even if it involves the incitement of violence and the spreading of smut.

NinetyNine

ETA: It is about 9 months, 3 weeks, 2 days and 4 hours until I am able to move back to Texas. I hope no one shoots me before I make it. After all, I live in Colorado and there have been two mass shootings here and many, many small ones. There have also been two shootings in Oregon, a sniper in Washington D.C. and now the shooting in Connecticut.

Guess what they all have in common? Yes, they are all blue states. Funny how no one thinks to have a shooting in a state where the innocent are likely to bring their own guns to the fight.............

Yawn

It's not just fear of retaliation, as you know, Red State people are DIFFERENT.  They respect other human beings. It is the Blue State peeps that lost their humanity.  They mock southerners, but they are the best an most respectful people you'll ever meet--both black and white folks.  That's why they're so hated by the intolerant Left.