Gun Stores, Ammo, and Rifles ?!?!?!

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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on January 18, 2013, 07:04:03 AM
EOs do not overrule the Constitution. Think about that for a moment, Husein strikes an EO stating no one can espouse Conservative values anymore, and all Conservative talk radio has been outlawed.

That is no different than using an EO to usurp the 2nd.

I hope you're right. Personally, I don't trust Obama not to try it, and I don't trust the republicans to stop him if he did.

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on January 18, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
I hope you're right. Personally, I don't trust Obama not to try it, and I don't trust the republicans to stop him if he did.
He can write an EO banning all weapons if he likes, but not one State would be obligated to enforce it.
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Quote from: kramarat on January 18, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
I hope you're right. Personally, I don't trust Obama not to try it, and I don't trust the republicans to stop him if he did.

I agree in that Obama is an ego-maniac and believes he can do whatever he desires. I think he will push the envelope as far as he can. He has stated publicly that the Constitution has negative impact on governemnt powers and he doesn't like that. The MSM will not monitor his excesses. That only leave the House GOP and that is not very encouraging.
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kramarat

Quote from: Solar on January 18, 2013, 01:16:34 PM
He can write an EO banning all weapons if he likes, but not one State would be obligated to enforce it.

I never thought that he would have been able to inflict as much damage as he has.

Obamacare alone, is going to derail the best healthcare system in the world.

Muslim Brotherhood Jihadists working in the white house.................it's a long list. :sad:

Solar

Quote from: kramarat on January 18, 2013, 01:32:26 PM
I never thought that he would have been able to inflict as much damage as he has.

Obamacare alone, is going to derail the best healthcare system in the world.

Muslim Brotherhood Jihadists working in the white house.................it's a long list. :sad:
If we had a GOP with a set of balls amongst themselves, it wouldn't have.
The left learned long ago, just push till they push back and stop, but like a spoiled stepchild, they've learned that no one ever says no.
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supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on January 18, 2013, 02:11:48 PM
If we had a GOP with a set of balls amongst themselves, it wouldn't have.
The left learned long ago, just push till they push back and stop, but like a spoiled stepchild, they've learned that no one ever says no.

Now the House pubs have kicked the can down the road for another three months. Will they ever stand up?
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 18, 2013, 02:55:55 PM
Now the House pubs have kicked the can down the road for another three months. Will they ever stand up?
If the Dims were doing this, I'd suspect they were setting up for a big move, but it's the Pubs, they have proven they are masters at snatching a winning moment and run to the opposing goal, for a score.
The other team just steps out of their way and lets them....
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Turks

"The debt-ceiling deadline is coming up. You can demand commensurate spending cuts, the usual, reasonable Republican offer. But you won't get them. Obama will hold out. And, at the eleventh hour, you will have to give in as you get universally blamed for market gyrations and threatened credit downgrades.

The more prudent course would be to find some offer that cannot be refused, a short-term trade-off utterly unassailable and straightforward. For example, offer to extend the debt ceiling through, say, May 1, in exchange for the Senate delivering a budget by that date — after four years of lawlessly refusing to produce one."


But it would (a) highlight the Democrats' fiscal recklessness, (b) force Senate Democrats to make public their fiscal choices and (c) keep the debt ceiling alive as an ongoing pressure point for future incremental demands.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-a-new-strategy-for-the-gop/2013/01/17/e751be18-60d3-11e2-9940-6fc488f3fecd_story.html

Solar

Quote from: Turks on January 19, 2013, 04:56:43 AM
"The debt-ceiling deadline is coming up. You can demand commensurate spending cuts, the usual, reasonable Republican offer. But you won't get them. Obama will hold out. And, at the eleventh hour, you will have to give in as you get universally blamed for market gyrations and threatened credit downgrades.

The more prudent course would be to find some offer that cannot be refused, a short-term trade-off utterly unassailable and straightforward. For example, offer to extend the debt ceiling through, say, May 1, in exchange for the Senate delivering a budget by that date — after four years of lawlessly refusing to produce one."


But it would (a) highlight the Democrats' fiscal recklessness, (b) force Senate Democrats to make public their fiscal choices and (c) keep the debt ceiling alive as an ongoing pressure point for future incremental demands.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-a-new-strategy-for-the-gop/2013/01/17/e751be18-60d3-11e2-9940-6fc488f3fecd_story.html

Exactly my point Turk. However, this always seems to backfire, the left has the media running block for them while they sit silent on the sidelines, then the media drags out weak-kneed RINO and makes a fool out of them on Sunday morning talk shows, exposing idiots as representatives of the right.
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Turks

Quote from: Solar on January 19, 2013, 06:37:45 AM
Exactly my point Turk. However, this always seems to backfire, the left has the media running block for them while they sit silent on the sidelines, then the media drags out weak-kneed RINO and makes a fool out of them on Sunday morning talk shows, exposing idiots as representatives of the right.

You hit the nail on the head.  The media is a force to reckoned with otherwise Obama could be dealt with.  Without honest reporting, hard for the G.O.P. to take a hard-line stance when they will be vilified even if they are right.

Solar

Quote from: Turks on January 19, 2013, 06:41:04 AM
You hit the nail on the head.  The media is a force to reckoned with otherwise Obama could be dealt with.  Without honest reporting, hard for the G.O.P. to take a hard-line stance when they will be vilified even if they are right.
Yep, what the Pubs need to do is just sit this one out, if the media wants to discuss it, talk to the thieves (Dims) themselves, let them explain why borrowing and printing money is in the best interest of the Country.
The only people watching broadcast TV are libs and kids, so why even bother addressing an audience with the intellect of a softball.

Appearing on these assault programs is akin to someone asking... "Do you still beat your wife"? Even though you've never been married, it's the seriousness of the accusation, that's important, not the truth.
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