Gun Confiscation

Started by The Stranger, January 08, 2013, 07:07:50 PM

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Will you resist the taking of your GUNS by the Government with Fire Power?

Yes
6 (54.5%)
No
5 (45.5%)

Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 07, 2013, 07:07:50 PM

raptor5618

You do not have to go to every house.  Set up voluntary confiscation points and then go out to different areas and make it a big deal when you go int to get them from someone who will not turn them in voluntarily.  The news would help the effort by televising  it as they smash the doors in, toss in flash bang bombs, tear the house apart as the residents are taken out in handcuffs and forsed to sit on the curb with officers with assault weapons standing guard over them.  If they are lucky enough to have the home owner fire back so they can shoot up part of the family all the better.  With images of a dead or shot up resister and maybe a few members of the family most people who own guns are going to be to afraid that they will face the same thing. 

I would like to think that I would resist and many here say that they would but if you look out your window and your house is surrounded by a swat team armed with automatic weapons with full body armor and in an armored vehicle resistance will result in them taking it from your cold dead fingers. 

So most people would just turn them in, leaving a few that are either brave enough or stupid enough to resist.  One against them will lose.  They had lots of guns in Waco and well it did not work out too well for them did it.  They were ready to die for their cause most people are not willing to fight when the only rational out come is death. 

I think there still is enough rule of law in the US to prevent confiscation but I think that little by little the resistance to making it a possibility is being diminished.  If they are able to ban assault weapons the president has been set for taking away more and more weapons.  There are semiautomatic deer guns that shoot bullets that can reach out farther and do more damage that a .223 or even a .308.  Shotguns hold more than 3 bullets or five and are semiautomatic.  handguns also hold many bullets and are semiautomatic.

If an assault gun goes it shares a lost of features in common with guns that are not currently being attacked.  If it works for one well it is an easy step to go for the others.  Plus it basically does away with the second amendment which at this point is viewed to mean we can have any gun that is typically carried by someone in the military.  The ban would basically take away the one gun that is carried by most people in the military so essentially the amendment would then seem to imply that we can carry any weapon EXCEPT those that are typically carried by the military.   I always hated that term slippery slope but wow it really seems to fit in this case.
"An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity."

Solar

It will not happen in our lifetime, it will however happen.
The left is chipping away at our Rights a little at a time, and like the frog in the pot, every successive generation has no historical reference to what they've lost, because it was lost before their birth, so they, like us, will accept a ban on certain weapons as a means of keeping a larger percentage of the 2nd.

However, the next generation won't have an issue with losing clips or magazines because they still have the Right to possess a weapon, their prodigy won't have an issue with the loss of handguns because they still have the Right to break breach shotguns.

It is up to us to fight the ass holes every step of the way and demand from the next Congress a reinstatement and a reversal of the headway the Marxists have made at whittling away our Rights.
There is no room for capitulation.
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mdgiles

While we're on the subject, I was reading about our idiot NY governor's ""stronger assault weapons ban" in the wake of recent mass murders. One of the features of an "assault weapons" was a bayonet lug. Does anybody have the figures on how many of the victims were bayoneted in any of these recent mass killings?
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AndyJackson

I caught some of Cuomo's speech / rant this morning.  He sounded more like Mussolini in full rage than someone discussing a social-legal issue.

I'm telling you, the progressives-socialists are smelling full victory in the air with their recent victories vs. Boehner, Romney, and Roberts-SC-Obamacare.  They are dreaming of not only their social engineering, but of unbridled permanent power.

It's amazing how long we went in the USA assuming that this type of scenario was impossible in our grand constitutional, democratic, dynamic republic.  But these bastards have cobbled together a path to dictatorship, based on a very unlikely, unbelievable capitulation of the good people, and supporting cast of lunatics and criminals.

AndyJackson

I like to think that God gives us these looks at insanity now and then, just to test our mettle and keep us striving to do our best.

But today's combination of things is scary indeed.

I hope it's not a test from God that has to last hundreds of years.  We've managed to keep it down to 4 or 8 years in the past.

mdgiles

I think it's interesting that they have taken Obozo's squeaker as a sign that the country is behind all this crap. They have revealed themselves, not realizing that the rest of us don't all live inside the beltway/on the coasts nor receive our information only from the LSM. Just because we might have felt Romney sucked, is not a sign that we want the Obamabots. Talk about misreading the public. You would think that the run on gun stores all over the country would give them pause. But then again, the LSM isn't reporting that, so these clowns have become victims of their own propaganda.
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AndyJackson

Regarding the mechanics of the confiscation....keep in mind that the progressives are very devoted to the Marxism concept of decades, generations, and even centuries of slow, incremental victories.

They are too smart to start rushing around society trying to take guns physically.  They know that the people will revolt legally, physically, socially.  So they won't.

They'll start with something firendly, like buybacks and a media-sponsored appeal to guilt, loving/saving the children, don't help the evil gun scourge, etc.

Then they'll pass some dark of the night, back room legislation that kicks off the threats.  Just like Obamacare.  Big taxes on each gun, annually.  Annual registration and checks.  Ammo the same.  OR....you can do the right thing and turn them in.

Then in a few years, turn them in or you're a felon.  Almost all Americans will cave to this.  Only the truly inspired or crazy will risk all their property, jail, and family's well being.

By this time, it will be whittled down to localized Ruby Ridge / Waco type attacks by the feds, and that's nothin'.

So easy and smooth.  We've got to find the opposite strategy to start today.

AndyJackson

Quote from: mdgiles on January 10, 2013, 09:27:38 AM
I think it's interesting that they have taken Obozo's squeaker as a sign that the country is behind all this crap. They have revealed themselves, not realizing that the rest of us don't all live inside the beltway/on the coasts nor receive our information only from the LSM. Just because we might have felt Romney sucked, is not a sign that we want the Obamabots. Talk about misreading the public. You would think that the run on gun stores all over the country would give them pause. But then again, the LSM isn't reporting that, so these clowns have become victims of their own propaganda.

Hopefully your'e right.  But Obamacare, the election, the fiscal cliff, have shown the folly of just assuming that logic, honesty, and common sense will prevail.

We're in a brave new world where nonsense, lying, and selfishness are winning quite handily.

We've got to fight everything hard from the get-go, not just let the enemy get a head start while we sit around assuming.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 10, 2013, 09:28:32 AM
Regarding the mechanics of the confiscation....keep in mind that the progressives are very devoted to the Marxism concept of decades, generations, and even centuries of slow, incremental victories.

They are too smart to start rushing around society trying to take guns physically.  They know that the people will revolt legally, physically, socially.  So they won't.

They'll start with something firendly, like buybacks and a media-sponsored appeal to guilt, loving/saving the children, don't help the evil gun scourge, etc.

Then they'll pass some dark of the night, back room legislation that kicks off the threats.  Just like Obamacare.  Big taxes on each gun, annually.  Annual registration and checks.  Ammo the same.  OR....you can do the right thing and turn them in.

Then in a few years, turn them in or you're a felon.  Almost all Americans will cave to this.  Only the truly inspired or crazy will risk all their property, jail, and family's well being.

By this time, it will be whittled down to localized Ruby Ridge / Waco type attacks by the feds, and that's nothin'.

So easy and smooth.  We've got to find the opposite strategy to start today.
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I was just about to post something similar, the left learned long ago that the GOP capitulate, EVERY-TIME!
They know if they give the impression that they are about to make the largest sweeping gun ban in history, people will settle for clips no bigger than 5 rounds.
It's what they always do, they chip away till nothing is left, they are like the Chinese, they plan decades toward the future..
The next move after that is keeping the mentally ill from getting weapons, but we know what that means, anyone that ever got a prescription for antidepressants will be subject to these laws, and we all know who takes these medications, the overstressed producers of the country.
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mdgiles

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 10, 2013, 09:35:38 AM
Hopefully your'e right.  But Obamacare, the election, the fiscal cliff, have shown the folly of just assuming that logic, honesty, and common sense will prevail.

We're in a brave new world where nonsense, lying, and selfishness are winning quite handily.

We've got to fight everything hard from the get-go, not just let the enemy get a head start while we sit around assuming.
Have they won, or is that the endless cacophony of the media and the arts trying to convince us they've won?
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

AndyJackson

oh, I agree with that.  The MSM is always in nonstop "GOP fractured, GOP bickering, GOP divided, where do they go from here, future uncertain, on the wane, tea party extremists" and so on.

It's just that with Boehner and McConnell and others, it's becoming more true each day.

mdgiles

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 10, 2013, 12:55:08 PM
oh, I agree with that.  The MSM is always in nonstop "GOP fractured, GOP bickering, GOP divided, where do they go from here, future uncertain, on the wane, tea party extremists" and so on.

It's just that with Boehner and McConnell and others, it's becoming more true each day.
I wonder if viewing things through the - hoped for - lens of conservative perfection isn't almost as bad as viewing things through the - constant - lens of liberal disdain.
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BILLY Defiant

Quote from: Rockntractor on January 09, 2013, 09:35:33 PM
They don't pay for anything they are doing now, it goes on the tab or debt or whatever you choose to call it.
You are really grasping for something to hold onto here, I doubt there is anything.

I am, first and foremost, a realist...we've seen this shit before...(Clinton) it didn't work.

Obamao and Idiot Biden are going to make a lot of noise, confiscation/EO scare the living crap out of everyone when what they want is some milder legislation passed(probably something to do with a special tax on guns N Ammo) we'll breathe a sign of relief and they'll take their trophy to the foolish lemmings and let them gorge on it
and Feinstein and the rest of the harridans on congress will get re elected by their equally lemming like constituency.

Billy

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mdgiles

Quote from: BILLY Defiant on January 10, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
I am, first and foremost, a realist...we've seen this shit before...(Clinton) it didn't work.

Obamao and Idiot Biden are going to make a lot of noise, confiscation/EO scare the living crap out of everyone when what they want is some milder legislation passed(probably something to do with a special tax on guns N Ammo) we'll breathe a sign of relief and they'll take their trophy to the foolish lemmings and let them gorge on it
and Feinstein and the rest of the harridans on congress will get re elected by their equally lemming like constituency.

Billy

Billy
You know the problem for the Dems isn't the Feinsteins and all the other Dems in safely blue areas; it's the Dems in red/purple areas. Hell, I'll bet that the NY Paper that printed the names and address of handgun permit holders, was surprised by all those names and addresses in safely blue Westchester county. It's said that they tried to get the information from Putnam county next door, but the county refused. Did Putnam county refuse - or did the paper decide to save themselves further embarrassment? Imagine printing that information for the entire Metropolitan area - and having it turn out to be a sea of red dots.
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

BILLY Defiant

Quote from: mdgiles on January 10, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
You know the problem for the Dems isn't the Feinsteins and all the other Dems in safely blue areas; it's the Dems in red/purple areas. Hell, I'll bet that the NY Paper that printed the names and address of handgun permit holders, was surprised by all those names and addresses in safely blue Westchester county. It's said that they tried to get the information from Putnam county next door, but the county refused. Did Putnam county refuse - or did the paper decide to save themselves further embarrassment? Imagine printing that information for the entire Metropolitan area - and having it turn out to be a sea of red dots.

What you are likely to find in Westchester county is likely a rich Democrat or a retired Judge or Prosecutor who put enough scumbags in jail over the years that he/she needs a gun permit.

Printing their names and addresses will more likely result in a visit from
some revenge seeking felon.

You can bet that any aggrieved former (and active) Judges prosecutors and Politicians are going to come back at the newspaper one way or another.

Billy
Evil operates best when it is disguised for what it truly is.