Gun Ban? Never Gonna Happen

Started by Solar, February 17, 2018, 05:41:21 PM

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Solar

Libs will cringe. :thumbup:

And here's why. 3-D Printing, end of story. Sure, the machines aren't cheap, but then, neither were the first TV's computers were extremely expensive.
In fact, this is a product that can virtually replicate itself, minus the computer hardware.
I say give it another decade and more than likely they'll just be another appliance in the home.
Of course, the metal printers will always cost more as well as the material for printing, in virtually every metal available, from gold to etc...

Point is, regardless of what the govt does, there will ALWAYS, be unlimited access to weapons.

World's First 3D Printed Metal Gun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZYKMBDm4M

Below is an up to date video on making guns at home cheaply and legally and how this group is challenging laws regulating them.
But regardless, guns will never be stopped, Period!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ayHfaHCXQ
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Quote from: Solar on February 17, 2018, 05:41:21 PM
Libs will cringe. :thumbup:

The left is always cringing about something.   :laugh:   

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walkstall

Quote from: cubs2016 on February 18, 2018, 05:16:14 AM
The left is always cringing about something.   :laugh:   

Most home with a double garage have parts that you could make a zip gun in less then 1hr.  I can make one in 15min. or less, with all the thing I have from over the years. 
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Solar

Quote from: walkstall on February 18, 2018, 05:45:06 AM
Most home with a double garage have parts that you could make a zip gun in less then 1hr.  I can make one in 15min. or less, with all the thing I have from over the years.
I thought about that as well. Anyone can make a zip gun with a pipe, shotgun shell and glue, make a hundred of them in a few hours.
But oddly enough people don't, and people don't kill people with them either.
Just like these 3D printed guns, people won't make them as offensive weapons, they'll make them because it's a Right and one that deserves protecting.
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Thing is, guns aren't the issue, leftist policy and media hype are the real issues.
We used to have school gun clubs, now we have metal detectors. What changed? Leftist control of the media.
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Also the AR in the "scary" AR style guns does NOT stand for Assault Rife.

https://www.nssf.org/msr/
QuoteThe AR in "AR-15" rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. "AR" does NOT stand for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle."

Gun grabbers make the claim..... :angry:

Josey

I am so tired of these left wing libtard socialist! They LIE at every turn about anything and the media Knows and still Runs with it.
I have contacted the local station here and asked if they will ever do a story about lives that guns safe or that schools are extremity safe and get nothing, I even asked why they run with the lies and am told oh we are only repeating stories from other locations(A.P.).
I am a gun owner of more then one firearm, they have never hurt anyone or even tried to hurt anyone, Even when left out in the open.
Anyway if I am wrong please let me know. 50,000,000 children a day enter schools 180 times a year, that's 9 BILLION time a yr children enter school with about 18 deaths a yr. That's 1- 500,000,000 chance of being killed.
Water, cars, bats, knives even kids dying in hot cars in the summer are double that.
Are they nothing but HYPOCRITES fulfilling the Liberal/Socialist agenda to outlaw all guns?
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wally

The only way the socialist Left can ban guns is if they achieve sufficient political power to create a one party state controlled oligarchy. 

The significance of the failed coup d'etat of the Marxists in our last election, has yet to be realized.  They have all gone to hole, but have yet to be brought to justice.

Had the Marxists been successful, there would have been no investigations and they would have been one midterm election away from rigging total one party control of everything!  The loss of our 2nd Ammedment rights would have been only one of our many liberties on the Liberal's chopping block.

By the way, it's far from over.  Rats are far more dangerous when they are cornered!
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Solar

Quote from: Josey on February 19, 2018, 04:49:21 AM
I am so tired of these left wing libtard socialist! They LIE at every turn about anything and the media Knows and still Runs with it.
I have contacted the local station here and asked if they will ever do a story about lives that guns safe or that schools are extremity safe and get nothing, I even asked why they run with the lies and am told oh we are only repeating stories from other locations(A.P.).
I am a gun owner of more then one firearm, they have never hurt anyone or even tried to hurt anyone, Even when left out in the open.
Anyway if I am wrong please let me know. 50,000,000 children a day enter schools 180 times a year, that's 9 BILLION time a yr children enter school with about 18 deaths a yr. That's 1- 500,000,000 chance of being killed.
Water, cars, bats, knives even kids dying in hot cars in the summer are double that.
Are they nothing but HYPOCRITES fulfilling the Liberal/Socialist agenda to outlaw all guns?
Yes, it's all total Bull Shit from the left.
They claim the Muscum religion is one of peace, that we are not to judge the action of terrorists Hell bent on destroying Western culture, despite the obvious compliance and complacency within the muscum community over the actions of a large proportion of its following.

But that we are supposed to judge all gun owners by the actions of one mentally disturbed individual.
Fuck these leftists, they lost, they need to get over it.
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Quote from: CasND on February 18, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
Also the AR in the "scary" AR style guns does NOT stand for Assault Rife.

https://www.nssf.org/msr/
Gun grabbers make the claim..... :angry:
I'm old enough to remember the ARmolite 15 which was the semi-auto version of Armolite's M16 assault rifle. 

One of the problems is that even gun owners have adopted the language of the Left and refer to semi-automatic assault rifle look alikes as being our "Assault Rifles".  Back in the day, one could "sportsterize" their semi-auto stock hunting rifles.  The function didn't change.  These "assault rifle" look alikes became so popular, manufactures started producing them.  Our nation's laws identify firearms by how they function; not by their appearance.

This is a great video by a police officer, explaining the issue in a manner that even a Liberal can understand, if they would ever listen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yATeti5GmI8
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What did I tell ya? :biggrin:

GUN CONTROL FAIL: Convicted Felon Amassed Huge Arsenal Of Self-Built Guns, Ammo
All of this happened in California, which has the strictest gun control laws in the United States




On Wednesday, California Attorney General Xavier Becerra announced that a convicted felon in California, who is banned from possessing firearms and ammunition, was arrested after law enforcement officials seized dozens of firearms and tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition from his home during a search for registered firearms that he had not turned into the government.

Law enforcement officials arrested Steven David Ponder, 57, following a Valentine's Day raid at his home in Los Angeles, California, where they were searching for four firearms he had not relinquished. The State of California Department of Justice reports:

At the conclusion of the search, agents had seized 28 firearms and 66,000 rounds of ammunition. Twelve of the firearms were assault-style weapons; 13 of the firearms were AR-15 style rifles, similar to the weapon used in the recent Florida mass shooting; and 11 were ghost guns, in which two were also short barrel, AR-15 style, fully automatic machine guns. Ghost guns are firearms that are untraceable by law enforcement due to their lack of serial numbers; they are built by an individual, not a manufacturer.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27487/gun-control-fail-convicted-felon-amassed-huge-ryan-saavedra#


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Yours truly can tell of the futility and failure of "Gun Consfiscation" and "Gun control".  Using the Good Ol' Dis'rick of Columbus" as the locals refer to it as a shining example.  Guns were outlawed, so was ammo....period. They didn't even allow Sworn police officers living in DC to have any other firearm other than their duty weapon.  There were a total of around 10,000 different kinds of Police in the DC to include the FED letter agencies to enforce that law.  I served on or assisted one task force or special unit after another in the early to Mid 90's that was aimed at just that purpose:
Getting guns off the streets, out of the hands of criminals who were racking up record numbers of body counts as year after year DC set the record in per capita homicides IN THE ENTIRE NATION. 95 percent of said homicides were with a firearm.

Long story short,  WE FAILED, Oh yeah we took lots and lots of guns off the streets....most of which were stolen...but thats another arguement....and made lots and lots of felony arrests and we confiscated piles and piles of various kinds of drugs, stolen cars, stolen property etc etc. For one period there it seemed like every night we were busting open someones door armed with a warrant....we'd usually find what we were looking for too.

But..the shootings continued, the violence continued, the drug crews continued all through it, blazing away with their guns. DC is roughly 66 Square miles, about half of that is the problem areas, there are about 75K actual residents of course the numbers swell during the day due to tourists and "The Govt". Now if this army of cops couldn't get all the guns and made only modest impact on violent crime in that relative confired area, what makes any SANE person think that LOGISTICALLY such method would work on ANY GIVEN JURISDICTION in the USA?

The point is, confiscation of any type CAN't work, never mind the resistience from law abiding citizens, never mind people hiding guns, never mind the court cases that would arise....IT IS LOGISTICALLY AND TACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to seize guns (or any other type of contraband) from the population in the numbers said firearms exist today within the land mass that is the USA.

If they mobilized every LEO in this country, had the national guard join in and tried going door to door to seize everyones guns N ammo it would take them about twenty years.....and in the mean time the shootings, the killings and the violence would still be going on. And I'm using the example I just gave you from my personal experience to prove that is true.


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