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Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« on: January 24, 2013, 04:17:26 AM »
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 04:33:19 AM »
I'm fine with it, but only if they are strong enough to carry all of their own gear, and have the physical stamina to keep up with their male counterparts................otherwise, it is a "feel good" move, that puts everyone in danger. Running liberal social experiments in combat zones could get very deadly, very fast.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 04:43:56 AM »
"The focus of our military needs to be maximizing combat effectiveness," said U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Republican from California and a member of the House Armed Services Committee.

"The question here is whether this change will actually make our military better at operating in combat and killing the enemy, since that will be their job too. What needs to be explained is how this decision, when all is said and done, increases combat effectiveness rather than being a move done for political purposes -- which is what this looks like," Hunter said.

"Lifting the ban is contrary to law and the wishes of the American people," said Phyllis Schlafly, the conservative activist and constitutional lawyer. "It is an embarrassment to the country."

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Paul E. Vallely tells Newsmax that physical limitations prevent women from serving is special combat forces, including the Navy SEALs.

“There are two ways to look at it,” Vallely said. “Women are already in combat zones — flying in helicopters, providing military intelligence, and in support units in Afghanistan.

“But I don’t think they should be in Special Forces or infantry units or deployed, in a conventional way, as part of special operations forces like Navy SEALs.”

“The upper-body strength that it takes to carry the weapons and gear — and especially on long hikes they’d have” prevents them from serving these operations effectively, said Vallely, who retired from the Army in 1993 as Deputy Commanding General, Pacific. “It’s been proven that women just don’t develop that upper-body strength.”



 http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Women-in-Combat/2013/01/23/id/472653#ixzz2ItddWlg6
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 04:55:00 AM »
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 04:57:00 AM »
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 05:00:54 AM »
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 05:01:38 AM »
Quote from: The Stranger on January 24, 2013, 05:00:54 AM
Holy big sticks Batman!!
Who would ant to be with a woman with a bigger ones then you. :woot: :tounge: :tounge:

Maybe bigger in more ways than one... :laugh:
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 05:09:59 AM »
"In one of his last acts as Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta today will revoke the last of the policies that prevent women from serving in combat arms.

Make no mistake about it: this action isn’t about civil rights, equal opportunity, or any of the laudable things America has done in the past fifty years to remove false barriers within the military. This is different. It’s a purely political act that will make our military — and the military families liberals claim to venerate — much weaker than they are today.


Panetta is acting in response to feminists’ demands that women be able to serve in any capacity men do because they will be denied promotion to the higher ranks if they lack combat experience. It’s true that there is a huge number of women of flag rank among the services, some at the top four-star rank. But there surely is a “glass ceiling” in the combat arms that women haven’t broken through.

The problem with this statement of the issue is that the military “glass ceiling” is streaked with blood. If women are to be warriors — and thus earn the right to command other warriors — they have to train like men, live like men, and be able to survive the intense dangers of the modern battlefield as many men do. If they don’t, they cannot gain the respect and admiration that commanders of warriors must have to be effective. Should they be permitted to do that?

There are two components to the question. First and foremost is whether the presence of women will add to or detract from the readiness and capability of the unit to perform its mission. The second is a moral question: Will having women serve in harm’s way benefit our military and society at large?"




http://spectator.org/archives/2013/01/24/the-blood-smeared-glass-ceilin
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 05:13:01 AM »
On a serious note; Panetta is a dedicated lib. This has more to do with women's rights, than combat readiness. Much like the "open" gay thing. It's embarrassing.
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 05:36:28 AM »
It's worse than letting gays serve openly, and it definitely has nothing to do with rights, but rather unraveling a long standing institution.
Putting women on the front line will simply get more men killed, and not because the women are necessarily incompetent, you just can't go against human nature.
Women are by nature, nurturers, men are caretakers, Govt, no matter how hard it tries, can't destroy 10s of thousands of years of human development, especially in one day.

If I was there, someone would definitely get a boot in the ass.
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 05:57:34 AM »
Lets take o pool and see how long before the first protest/law suit.
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2013, 06:27:17 AM »
I wonder if women now have to register with thge local "draft board" just like males are supposed to do.  I believe legally all are still supposed to even though there is no draft.
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2013, 06:43:48 AM »
Want to piss off a liberal?

Tell them that you think that women and gays should make up the entire front line, in any battle. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 06:45:41 AM »
Quote from: kramarat on January 24, 2013, 06:43:48 AM
Want to piss off a liberal?

Tell them that you think that women and gays should make up the entire front line, in any battle. :rolleyes:

Hell the enemy would likely laugh themselves to death.  :laugh:
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Re: Good or Bad Idea: WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 06:48:45 AM »
Quote from: Turks on January 24, 2013, 06:45:41 AM
Hell the enemy would likely laugh themselves to death.  :laugh:

Yeah. We could bomb the shit out them as they're staring at the transsexual cross dressers. :lol:
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