Rand Paul the only standup guy in dc

Started by Bluedog, January 29, 2013, 03:04:58 AM

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Bluedog

The more i see of Rand Paul the more respect i have for him--to me he is the only one in dc with integrity and cajones when he questioned hillary and kerry. i hope he runs in 2016 then i will work for his campaign and it will be my last--who else there in dc has it like Rand Paul has---none--badda bing. :thumbup:

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I could envsion a Rand Paul and Marco Rubio ticket or a Paul/Martinez ticket.  Even though a Paul/Rubio ticket seems like a good choice... I'm not thrilled with the idea of Rubio.  When a party pushes a guy like Rubio to the forefront this early in the game it usually spells disaster later on.  And I believe that is what the GOP is doing.  They are enamored with him for no other reason than he's an Hispanic.   Just because he's Hispanic doesn't mean the Hispanics are going to dump the Democrat Party and vote Republican.


And with Chuckie Schumer hogging the limelight yesterday with the announcement of immigration reform the Dems are going to get the credit, not the Republicans or Rubio... IMHO.


Solar

Quote from: Turks on January 29, 2013, 03:54:50 AM
I could envsion a Rand Paul and Marco Rubio ticket or a Paul/Martinez ticket.  Even though a Paul/Rubio ticket seems like a good choice... I'm not thrilled with the idea of Rubio.  When a party pushes a guy like Rubio to the forefront this early in the game it usually spells disaster later on.  And I believe that is what the GOP is doing.  They are enamored with him for no other reason than he's an Hispanic.   Just because he's Hispanic doesn't mean the Hispanics are going to dump the Democrat Party and vote Republican.


And with Chuckie Schumer hogging the limelight yesterday with the announcement of immigration reform the Dems are going to get the credit, not the Republicans or Rubio... IMHO.
Even more so, and I do like Rubio, but the RINO always push those forward that align with their beliefs, which creates doubt in my mind.
It's another reason we don't see them pushing Jindal or Rand, they have to go it alone.
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Quote from: Solar on January 29, 2013, 04:19:19 AM
Even more so, and I do like Rubio, but the RINO always push those forward that align with their beliefs, which creates doubt in my mind.
It's another reason we don't see them pushing Jindal or Rand, they have to go it alone.

Right now, even though it's too soon I really like Rand Paul.  At least for now he seems to be the only one with "balls".  I know mnay like Jindal but to me... and just to me, he comes across as the type that says what he thinks people want to hear.  Not to say that isn't what most politicians do.  His comment about the Republicans having "to stop being stupid" turned me off.  He's right but he didn't need to give the opposition a sound-byte.

Turks

Rubio is already n the defensive posture...with his own party.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/rubio-immigration-reform-piecemeal/2013/01/28/id/487777

Without strict and I mean strict border control policies, this whole issue is bogus.  Not bogus as in not real.  But bogus from the perspective of what's being offered is too little.

"The Republican Party will attract more Hispanics by appealing to "our principles of free enterprise and limited government. We have a lot of work to do to explain to the American people, to a whole new generation of Americans, why limited government and free enterprise has made us exceptional and why big government will rob us of that."


If Rubio thinks that is going to make them jump ship, he ought to quit while he's ahead.


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It does seem Paul is the one who is willing to really take on dems. Clearly, the GOP and the last two presidential candidates were afraid to take on Obama for what he is. I can understand McCain being cautious as we were plowing new ground. However, there was no reason for Romney to handle Obama with kid gloves. The dems will go all out against any pub candidate. The MSM will pick him apart and the only way to fight that is to come right back at them. Newt proved in the primaries they do not like being called out for what they are.
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Turks

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 29, 2013, 05:42:34 AM
It does seem Paul is the one who is willing to really take on dems. Clearly, the GOP and the last two presidential candidates were afraid to take on Obama for what he is. I can understand McCain being cautious as we were plowing new ground. However, there was no reason for Romney to handle Obama with kid gloves. The dems will go all out against any pub candidate. The MSM will pick him apart and the only way to fight that is to come right back at them. Newt proved in the primaries they do not like being called out for what they are.

That was Romney's biggest mistake.  Whoever gets the nod can't be another "timid nice-guy wanna-be".   But again, unless the media changes which isn't likely, they would go after Paul much in the way they ignored his father. 

Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 29, 2013, 05:42:34 AM
It does seem Paul is the one who is willing to really take on dems. Clearly, the GOP and the last two presidential candidates were afraid to take on Obama for what he is. I can understand McCain being cautious as we were plowing new ground. However, there was no reason for Romney to handle Obama with kid gloves. The dems will go all out against any pub candidate. The MSM will pick him apart and the only way to fight that is to come right back at them. Newt proved in the primaries they do not like being called out for what they are.
Good point, the base is tired of capitulating wannabe men, we want leaders, tough ass leaders, someone not afraid to speak the truth to the American people.
Reagan fit that mold.
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Quote from: Solar on January 29, 2013, 06:05:33 AM
Good point, the base is tired of capitulating wannabe men, we want leaders, tough ass leaders, someone not afraid to speak the truth to the American people.
Reagan fit that mold.

I couldn't agree more.  :thumbsup:

raptor5618

I like Paul but I am sure over the next 4 years the media will jump on any mistake or misstatement he makes in an attempt o make him appear to be a mad man.  His father did not really help his own cause during interviews but when you read what his positions were, he really made a lot of sense in most areas.  But that made him appear to be extreme when he fully understood that many of his goals would take a good amount of time to achieve because you cannot just remove everything at once and expect the country to operate as if nothing happened.

I think Ryan before they grabbed him for VP used to be very good in the face of criticism.  When he was put up with Romney they turned him into a talking head.  I think the GOP needs to say over and over what their position is, but I think they need more people getting into the weeds on issues. With the way media is so accessible I really think they should set up their own sites where all issues can be discussed in detail. Not just a white paper but a real interactive thing.   

Most of all they need someone like Rand Paul who actually stands for something.  Seems as if they are adrift at see and no one wants to paddle because they might be going in the wrong direction so they just sit and go nowhere and accept what ever direction they are pushed.
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Bowhntr

My only issue with Rand Paul at this point is Ron Paul.  Ron Paul is just too "head in the sand" when it comes to foreign policy for my tastes and I am afraid that Rand Paul may have a lot of the same positions if it comes down to it.  At this point, and as depressing as it is, I can not find anyone in the GOP that I think could handle the dems.  I'm very curious to see how the midterms go then we may get a better idea of the potential 2016 field.

Shooterman

Quote from: Turks on January 29, 2013, 03:54:50 AM
I could envsion a Rand Paul and Marco Rubio ticket or a Paul/Martinez ticket.  Even though a Paul/Rubio ticket seems like a good choice... I'm not thrilled with the idea of Rubio.  When a party pushes a guy like Rubio to the forefront this early in the game it usually spells disaster later on.  And I believe that is what the GOP is doing.  They are enamored with him for no other reason than he's an Hispanic.   Just because he's Hispanic doesn't mean the Hispanics are going to dump the Democrat Party and vote Republican.


And with Chuckie Schumer hogging the limelight yesterday with the announcement of immigration reform the Dems are going to get the credit, not the Republicans or Rubio... IMHO.

Rubio can kiss my oversized Texas ass. I'll give him an hour to draw a crowd on the green.
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Shooterman

Quote from: Turks on January 29, 2013, 04:26:31 AM
Right now, even though it's too soon I really like Rand Paul.  At least for now he seems to be the only one with "balls".  I know mnay like Jindal but to me... and just to me, he comes across as the type that says what he thinks people want to hear.  Not to say that isn't what most politicians do.  His comment about the Republicans having "to stop being stupid" turned me off.  He's right but he didn't need to give the opposition a sound-byte.

If Rand Paul runs in '16 and I am still kickin', I'll support him just as I supported his Dad in '08 and '12.

I believe it will be moot, though, as I am sure the dingaling hierarchy PUBS have already picked our next loser.
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Quote from: Bowhntr on January 29, 2013, 11:01:18 AM
My only issue with Rand Paul at this point is Ron Paul.  Ron Paul is just too "head in the sand" when it comes to foreign policy for my tastes and I am afraid that Rand Paul may have a lot of the same positions if it comes down to it.  At this point, and as depressing as it is, I can not find anyone in the GOP that I think could handle the dems.  I'm very curious to see how the midterms go then we may get a better idea of the potential 2016 field.

I can only imagine how you would have hated Mr Republican/Mr Conservative, Bob Taft.
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