Quote from: Skeptic on June 13, 2013, 12:57:07 PM
Rubio is another TEA Party picked intellectual lightweight. He got elected for throwing the red meat at the conservative base of the party, but no one bothered to check him out any further to make sure he was worth the support from the TEA Party. Apparently his "American exceptionalism" speech was all the vetting they needed. Had they dug further and actually examined his work while he was in the Florida State Legislature, they would have known what a real moron Rubio was.

As a Florida resident I have followed my Senator thoroughly and have realized just what a mental lightweight he really is. Unfortunately I had no choice but to vote for him, as it was either him or Governor Chris (a Progressive pretending to be a Republican.) Part of me hoped he would be better than what I thought he'd be. But nope, just another disappointment.

Too bad Ted Cruz is a Cuban-Canadian and can't run for president, because I like him so much better. At least we have Rand Paul, who would be my pick unless someone better emerges before 2016.

As you indicated, the gift was Crist as the opposition. He had been exposed as a charlatan.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 13, 2013, 01:18:51 PM
As you indicated, the gift was Crist as the opposition. He had been exposed as a charlatan.

Yeah, I know.

PS: How the heck did I misspell Crist's name? You'd think I'd know it considering the fool's name is signed on my college diploma because I graduated from Florida International University (a state university) while that dirt bag was our governor. Every time I look at my diploma I have to see his signature 

Quote from: taxed on June 12, 2013, 11:43:03 AM
Rubio really let us all down.  If he was a real conservative, he'd be unstoppable.

i agree. rubio is a sellout.

Oh no, it's dashvinny. This guy was one of the biggest trolls in the Hannity Forum.  I hope he's changed.

Quote from: Skeptic on June 13, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
Oh no, it's dashvinny. This guy was one of the biggest trolls in the Hannity Forum.  I hope he's changed.

i speak truth to power.

lol, you use the same name while trolling different boards  ?

That's sort of silly, no.....pathological.

There's a Margot who's out there a lot, maybe the worst ever when all things are taken into account.

Though I'm not sure, those Blueballs Debate boys are pretty ridiculous.

Dashvinny became famous in the Hannity forum by encouraging everyone to vote for Obama instead of Romney. He was a Santorum supporter (nothing wrong with that) but became an Obama supporter when Romney was nominated. For him it was Santorum or no one...so Obama was the next logical step. 

Look, Romney was not exactly a conservative, but are you seriously going to tell us Obama was the better choice between those two? Look what's happened under Obama's second term...(1) higher taxes, (2) Obamacare in full force, (3) future head of the CIA is a White House lawyer with no secret intelligence experience, (4) we almost got another assault weapons ban...and the list goes on and on.

Quote from: Skeptic on June 13, 2013, 09:38:31 PM
Dashvinny became famous in the Hannity forum by encouraging everyone to vote for Obama instead of Romney. He was a Santorum supporter (nothing wrong with that) but became an Obama supporter when Romney was nominated. For him it was Santorum or no one...so Obama was the next logical step. 

Look, Romney was not exactly a conservative, but are you seriously going to tell us Obama was the better choice between those two? Look what's happened under Obama's second term...(1) higher taxes, (2) Obamacare in full force, (3) future head of the CIA is a White House lawyer with no secret intelligence experience, (4) we almost got another assault weapons ban...and the list goes on and on.

Thanks for the heads up.

Quote from: Skeptic on June 13, 2013, 09:38:31 PM
Dashvinny became famous in the Hannity forum by encouraging everyone to vote for Obama instead of Romney. He was a Santorum supporter (nothing wrong with that) but became an Obama supporter when Romney was nominated. For him it was Santorum or no one...so Obama was the next logical step. 

Look, Romney was not exactly a conservative, but are you seriously going to tell us Obama was the better choice between those two? Look what's happened under Obama's second term...(1) higher taxes, (2) Obamacare in full force, (3) future head of the CIA is a White House lawyer with no secret intelligence experience, (4) we almost got another assault weapons ban...and the list goes on and on.

romney  would  have  been a  complete  disaster  for the  conservative  movement, though rubio seems to consort  with liberals  quite  well.

Quote from: Skeptic on June 13, 2013, 09:38:31 PM
Dashvinny became famous in the Hannity forum by encouraging everyone to vote for Obama instead of Romney. He was a Santorum supporter (nothing wrong with that) but became an Obama supporter when Romney was nominated. For him it was Santorum or no one...so Obama was the next logical step. 

Look, Romney was not exactly a conservative, but are you seriously going to tell us Obama was the better choice between those two? Look what's happened under Obama's second term...(1) higher taxes, (2) Obamacare in full force, (3) future head of the CIA is a White House lawyer with no secret intelligence experience, (4) we almost got another assault weapons ban...and the list goes on and on.

He wasn't alone, I wrote this some time ago. Of course hindsight is 20/20, and who could ever have predicted the IRS scandal, but you'll get the point.
The Editor changed my title at the link, this one is correct.

Conservatives For Obama

Before your head explodes, let me explain.

God knows we want to stop Socialism in this country and Obama is a Fabian Socialist.
However, we have as the power-base of the GOP a bunch of RINO (Republican In Name Only).
How many decades have we been saying "No More RINO, only to have the elite and the MSM stick us with one?
And how many times have we said "this election is the most important of our lifetime, only to lose it to  Lib/RINO because the base stayed home?
Well this election is probably the most important of our lifetime, but with a twist, our future in in the hands of a choice between a Marxist and a bunch of Socialists.

So lets look at the possibilities, we elect a RINO, we get more of Bush's "Kinder, Gentler Nation" BS, a continuation of capitulation to the leftists in office.
Say we get stuck with Romney, we all know his closest advisor is a lobbyist and we know the GOP is held by special interests, so its a given we will continue to slide further left, or backwards as I see it.
We know that he and Newt have no interest in killing the ethanol market, probably one of the worst scams since AGW (anthropogenic  global warming) and because of AGW we have all this silly so called "Green" BS to contend with.
With that in mind, its nearly a given that they will not rein in the EPA.
Keep in mind we are about to take back all three Houses and we would have RINO in all the top positions in all three of these Houses.
So what do you actually think we will accomplish?
Answer: Nothing, Nada, Zip! Just more of the same RINO policies starting with Bush #1.
God knows I miss Reagan!!!!

Now the case for Obama, or Hussein as I prefer to call him.
Lets say he does get in office, we still have both Houses that's a given and don't argue with me, we proved the Tea party has power and we will exercise it again and finalize our goals of making change, but we will still be stuck with RINO in power until we can do some serious weeding in committees.

Let us take a hypothetical approach for a moment, Hussein is POTUS for another four, I have had people say the worst thing he will do is appoint a lib to SCOTUS, fine, so he replaces a lib with a lib, because we know no Conservative would ever retire under a Marxist.
So what else can he do that isn't unconstitutional? Nothing, there is nothing he can do other than veto bills placed on his desk, brought forward by RINO, so the result will be stagnation.
Seriously, is stagnation in Government all that bad? I personally don't think so, it seems the best of times is when they are all on break, so think of stagnation as an extended break.

Now comes the fun part. With control of both Houses and RINO unable to forward their agenda, we can finally work on removing RINO as committee heads and get some Tea party people in charge, maybe even start gutting the EPA, something that will not happen with the current Lib, excuse me, RINO in power since they are controlled by unseen power brokers, (the money people pulling the strings for their own self-serving interests.)

Once changes start taking place the business community will feel safe in once again, growing their industries.
The money is there, its just waiting for the moment its safe to release more than a trillion dollars back into the economy.
Would they feel safe with a RINO at the helm, most likely, but we would still have the Old Guard doing what serves their best interests.
Do you think they would put a stop to Hussein's alternative energy debacle? Probably not, because they too are beholding to the same special interests that support the Green energy fraud.
With the Tea party taking over committees we have a chance to change these ridiculous laws, for example, this one Hussein implemented, forcing energy utilities to purchase so called "Green Energy".
By killing laws like this we tie Hussein's hands even further.
There will be no reason to capitulate with Hussein, it is time that the left give up ground Lets face it, RINO have been capitulating to the Leftists for decades, its why we're at this tipping point in history.

Well there you have it folks a brief look at the alternative to a RINO in office, I know it means dealing with the Devil, but isn't it time to say "Enough is Enough, at what point do we finally start taking back our party? Four years from now when we have slid even further left?
Voting for a RINO will only guarantee more entrenched RINO.

I hope this gives you pause and makes you think.
I am a Hardcore Tea party conservative that is fed up with the status quo and feel its time to force change in our party.
Yes, I expect hate mail, but at the rate we are sliding further and further to the left, it won't be long before you and I won't have the option to voice our opinions.
So lets send a message to these RINO, that we're fed up and we're not going to take it anymore!!!!

I'm not stupid, I know Hussein will pull more crap as time goes by, but seriously, could it really be any worse than the slide were already on?

I hate to say it, but its a fear factor that is in play, one the RINO are exploiting.
And sadly, fear is an emotional response, something libs thrive on.
I'm not saying those that disagree with me are liberal in the slightest, but they aren't using the analytical part of the brain...

Its time for change and that time is now!!!
http://newsblaze.com/story/20120127195104tomr.nb/topstory.html

I'm probably wrong about this, reacting out of emotion rather than logic, but you have no idea how betrayed I feel about the Republicans today. I expected them to stop this immigration thing. They're not going to without intense prodding. There are a few good ones, but the ones I thought I could trust the most (Ryan, Rubio, Paul) I don't trust anymore.

My Congressman is Tim Walberg. I told his Washington office and his local office that IF this immigration reform isn't stopped, if it becomes law, I WILL VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO RUNS AGAINST HIM -- WHETHER REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.

My fear is, many of these guys will vote against it, let it go to conference with the Senate and work out a bill that is essentially the Senate's bill so the local Congressmen can keep their own hands clean so they can say they didin't vote for it.  That's what Boehner is planning.

If that happens, I WILL VOTE AGAINST MY OWN REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN.

I will also support Boehner's opponent. I'm not in his district, but I am going to give money to his opponent. I am sick of this man running the Republican Party into the ground.

Quote from: Yawn on June 14, 2013, 05:35:28 AM
I'm probably wrong about this, reacting out of emotion rather than logic, but you have no idea how betrayed I feel about the Republicans today. I expected them to stop this immigration thing. They're not going to without intense prodding. There are a few good ones, but the ones I thought I could trust the most (Ryan, Rubio, Paul) I don't trust anymore.

My Congressman is Tim Walberg. I told his Washington office and his local office that IF this immigration reform isn't stopped, if it becomes law, I WILL VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO RUNS AGAINST HIM -- WHETHER REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.

My fear is, many of these guys will vote against it, let it go to conference with the Senate and work out a bill that is essentially the Senate's bill so the local Congressmen can keep their own hands clean so they can say they didin't vote for it.  That's what Boehner is planning.

If that happens, I WILL VOTE AGAINST MY OWN REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN.

I will also support Boehner's opponent. I'm not in his district, but I am going to give money to his opponent. I am sick of this man running the Republican Party into the ground.

That's one thing we can do, even if he's not our Rep, we can always support his competition.
Boner has got to go!

If you can't support Romney over Obama, you have a screw loose.  Yeah, it would be great to get Santorum, Newt, Paul, Cruz, Palin, Bachmann, West, Cain, Perry in there.

But to choose Obama or either Clinton over anybody else in the world......stupid.

I dislike Christie, but at least he's shown an interest in fixing a budget.  What does a whiny fake conservative do if Christie gets the nomination......vote Hillary  ?

Quote from: AndyJackson on June 14, 2013, 06:32:17 AM
If you can't support Romney over Obama, you have a screw loose.  Yeah, it would be great to get Santorum, Newt, Paul, Cruz, Palin, Bachmann, West, Cain, Perry in there.

But to choose Obama or either Clinton over anybody else in the world......stupid.

I dislike Christie, but at least he's shown an interest in fixing a budget.  What does a whiny fake conservative do if Christie gets the nomination......vote Hillary  ?

Or get the likes of Boner, and look where that's taking us.
Point is, sometimes you have to destroy it, to rebuild it, and we're nearing that time again in our history.

I agree about Boner, although his path was a little more indirect.  I don't think it's comparable with choosing (or not voting and allowing) Obama over Romney.  Or Hillary over Christie / Jeb / Rubio etc.

Boner was just another shitty senator, and he wandered into the speakership through a series of inside politics events that we can't do much about.

We do have the power to avoid Obama and Hillary and whatever other miscreants they throw up there.  We failed on Obama.  We can at least have the guts and ambition to avoid the same scam and disaster with Hillary.  And vote for some jackass RINO that you hate, if you have to.

Though I'm with you on the destroy and rebuild thing.  Time to quit the GOP and start the Tea or Patriot or Constitutional Party.

Right now is the time.  If Boner just passes on prosecuting all of the crimes and scandals, we at least have them to run on, as the basis of a new party.

If a new party can indict the dems and RINO's heavily with blame for all these crimes, and everybody getting off scot-free with them.....we may never have better ammo to get started.  Just one decent backer like the Koches, you could PR and market and advertise your way to something big.  And don't sit quiet in the corner like a battered wife, as the RINOs do.....come out swinging for the fences, and swinging for the other guys' jaws.

I'm ready for the House 70 to do this tomorrow.  For the 2014 elections.  Pick up whatever senators, governers, mayors, backers, public figures that you can.  You may even get that coalition built, of Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, OReilly, Coulter, Levin, Savage, et al.