Just read an article about a gay guy in Tampa who died and his family scheduled his funeral at a Baptist church. The day before the funeral, the church called and told the family they couldn't have the funeral there as it would be blasphemous.

Should gays be allowed to be buried in church? I believe the church has the right to refuse service if they so desire but as a Christian, I also believe that there are not differing levels of sin so if we disallow gays for being sinful, shouldn't we disallow everyone because we have all sinned?

Thought I would post this here since the whole gay thing is so political and the left will twist this to demonize the religious right. Apologies if the religion section would be a more appropriate place for it.

They have the right to refuse though I find it horrible.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on August 11, 2014, 12:59:18 AM
Just read an article about a gay guy in Tampa who died and his family scheduled his funeral at a Baptist church. The day before the funeral, the church called and told the family they couldn't have the funeral there as it would be blasphemous.

Should gays be allowed to be buried in church? I believe the church has the right to refuse service if they so desire but as a Christian, I also believe that there are not differing levels of sin so if we disallow gays for being sinful, shouldn't we disallow everyone because we have all sinned?

Thought I would post this here since the whole gay thing is so political and the left will twist this to demonize the religious right. Apologies if the religion section would be a more appropriate place for it.

We don't know the details. A person who CHOOSES to continue in sin as a WAY OF LIFE is not the same as a person who has sinned and continues in a state of repentance.

The woman caught in the act of adultery. Christ told her, "Go and sin NO MORE." He didn't say, "Go and sin SOME MORE."

In a church, the funeral?  Most services are held in mortuaries.  You can have the person's name mentioned in the dedications and announcements section of a church's regular service.

Yeah, they can have their funerals there, if the church-congregation wants.   

Quote from: kit saginaw on August 11, 2014, 05:30:54 AM
In a church, the funeral?  Most services are held in mortuaries.  You can have the person's name mentioned in the dedications and announcements section of a church's regular service.

Yeah, they can have their funerals there, if the church-congregation wants.   

Mortuary and funeral home are not synonymous. The mortuary is where embalming is done. This isn't necessarily the same building. Church services are still fairly common in my area.

All this homosexuality is wonderful and glorious and Christians need to accept political correctness above the word of God is really getting tedious. I have gay friends, I would never reject them from visiting my house, but the moment they try to pull this sh*t on me they're out. Then again they are not militant atheists and accept me as a individual just as I accept them as individuals.

Quote from: carlb on August 11, 2014, 04:19:14 AM
We don't know the details. A person who CHOOSES to continue in sin as a WAY OF LIFE is not the same as a person who has sinned and continues in a state of repentance.

The woman caught in the act of adultery. Christ told her, "Go and sin NO MORE." He didn't say, "Go and sin SOME MORE."

Drunkeness is a sin. If a drunk dies one night while intoxicated, should he be disallowed from having a funeral in a church?

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 11, 2014, 06:21:32 AM
All this homosexuality is wonderful and glorious and Christians need to accept political correctness above the word of God is really getting tedious. I have gay friends, I would never reject them from visiting my house, but the moment they try to pull this sh*t on me they're out. Then again they are not militant atheists and accept me as a individual just as I accept them as individuals.

This really has nothing to do with the original post.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on August 11, 2014, 09:01:46 AM
This really has nothing to do with the original post.

Well the answer is obvious, of course the Church has the right to do whatever it wants, isn't that the essence of separation of Church and State?

But because of the glorification of homosexuality as something holy in itself the leftist would like the Church to accept political correctness as law.

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 11, 2014, 10:21:09 AM
Well the answer is obvious, of course the Church has the right to do whatever it wants, isn't that the essence of separation of Church and State?

But because of the glorification of homosexuality as something holy in itself the leftist would like the Church to accept political correctness as law.

While I might not agree with the church's decision I totally agree with you it is their choice. Churches should be allowed to operate as they chooses as long as they do not violate laws or do anything to undermine local and national security (Radical Islamists).

Quote from: Dr. Meh on August 11, 2014, 09:00:19 AM
Drunkeness is a sin. If a drunk dies one night while intoxicated, should he be disallowed from having a funeral in a church?

You do have a point.  Then there is this, there are some out here that thinks homos are mentally ill.  Nevertheless, you can't preach someone into heaven and if this person was not a current believing member of that church, I don't know of a message that any preacher could preach for him unless it would be one of the message of the cross, an invitation to turn from sin.   BTW, I don't think homosexuality is a mental disorder.  I think alot of rebellion led up to that final act.   Most likely, the family members were futilely trying for some semblance of normality in that person's life, so a proper church service was what they wanted, not necessarily what the deceased wanted. 

Quote from: Dr. Meh on August 11, 2014, 09:00:19 AM
Drunkeness is a sin. If a drunk dies one night while intoxicated, should he be disallowed from having a funeral in a church?

You missed my point.  You are talking about a man who MAKES A MISTAKE and gives in to his temptation (drinking), but as a member of the Church, is putting sin out of his life.  Most churches understand this.

Like I said, the DETAILS aren't given, but if the man makes the LIFESTYLE CHOICE to live in sin (practicing homosexuality AS A WAY OF LIFE), then most mainline Christian Churches will not place their stamp of approval on this man's life.

There are other homosexual friendly churches that have convinced themselves that God accepts what He calls an "ABOMINATION."

It's the choice of the church. Get over it.

Quote from: carlb on August 11, 2014, 05:42:50 PM
You missed my point.  You are talking about a man who MAKES A MISTAKE and gives in to his temptation (drinking), but as a member of the Church, is putting sin out of his life.  Most churches understand this.

Like I said, the DETAILS aren't given, but if the man makes the LIFESTYLE CHOICE to live in sin (practicing homosexuality AS A WAY OF LIFE), then most mainline Christian Churches will not place their stamp of approval on this man's life.

There are other homosexual friendly churches that have convinced themselves that God accepts what He calls an "ABOMINATION."

It's the choice of the church. Get over it.

I think it would be best to leave out the childish "get over it" remarks especially since anyone with a respectable level of reading comprehension would know that I was never "under it." In fact, I even said the church has the right so how about stopping with the condescending remarks?

So suppose a thief who makes his living stealing dies. He shouldn't have a church funeral? Or a member of the Mafia. Pretty sure their families can have a church funeral for him if they would like. I think YOU'RE missing my point. I'm not some pro-gay weirdo and I'm sick of their agenda being shoved down everyone's throat. As a Christian, I acknowledge that it's a sin and don't condone it at all. The point is that if churches stop letting sinners or people living sinful lifestyles have funerals there, pretty much nobody should be allowed to have a funeral there.

I understand not allowing marriages and giving a blessing contrary to scripture but a funeral? That's very different.

Quote from: Dr. Meh on August 11, 2014, 12:59:18 AM
Just read an article about a gay guy in Tampa who died and his family scheduled his funeral at a Baptist church. The day before the funeral, the church called and told the family they couldn't have the funeral there as it would be blasphemous.

Should gays be allowed to be buried in church? I believe the church has the right to refuse service if they so desire but as a Christian, I also believe that there are not differing levels of sin so if we disallow gays for being sinful, shouldn't we disallow everyone because we have all sinned?

Thought I would post this here since the whole gay thing is so political and the left will twist this to demonize the religious right. Apologies if the religion section would be a more appropriate place for it.

If Churches wish to retain their tax exempt status and all of the other luxuries that come with abiding by certain federal legislation, then yes, they should be made to allow gays to marry.  If they're going to discriminate against the LBGT community, they should be stripped of their status and be forced to adjust accordingly. 

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:27:20 PM
If Churches wish to retain their tax exempt status and all of the other luxuries that come with abiding by certain federal legislation, then yes, they should be made to allow gays to marry.  If they're going to discriminate against the LBGT community, they should be stripped of their status and be forced to adjust accordingly.

When did marriage become a right?