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Title: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: wally on March 02, 2018, 09:47:48 AM
FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting, Says America Doesn't Need to Know 

https://www.westernjournal.com/fbi-refuses-release-docs-secret-comey-obama-meeti...

So, Americans deserve and need to know everything and anything about Trump and anyone in his family or even remotely involved in his campaign, with no evidence of collusion after 2 years of investigation, but THE SWAMP IS PROTECTING THEIR OWN!
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 09:54:09 AM
It's an FOIA request involving a meeting with POTUS, so yeah, they can reject it outright for five years.
With that said, once the investigation gets underway, that 5 year POTUS privilege disappears and the Marxist will be exposed one more time.
Makes great headlines and makes libs question their leadership, so it was worth it. :thumbup:
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: wally on March 02, 2018, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2018, 09:54:09 AM
It's an FOIA request involving a meeting with POTUS, so yeah, they can reject it outright for five years.
With that said, once the investigation gets underway, that 5 year POTUS privilege disappears and the Marxist will be exposed one more time.
Makes great headlines and makes libs question their leadership, so it was worth it. :thumbup:
Remember when Obama came into office and declassified all of the information concerning President Bush's enhanced interrogation program, including the names of our interrogators?   Trump cold declassify all things Obama!
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 12:45:03 PM
Quote from: wally on March 02, 2018, 10:29:56 AM
Remember when Obama came into office and declassified all of the information concerning President Bush's enhanced interrogation program, including the names of our interrogators?   Trump cold declassify all things Obama!
Of which was unprecedented, and most likely illegal, but the GOP are cowards, so they did nothing to stop it.
Precedent does not make law, only Congress can do that, but the GOP has always let the left have their way, while holding themselves to a higher standard.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: wally on March 02, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2018, 12:45:03 PM
Of which was unprecedented, and most likely illegal, but the GOP are cowards, so they did nothing to stop it.
Precedent does not make law, only Congress can do that, but the GOP has always let the left have their way, while holding themselves to a higher standard.
It is my understanding that any POTUS can declassify anything for any reason.  The President and the Vice President are the only members of the Executive Branch given specific powers in our Constitution.  All other members of the Executive Branch derive their power from the Chief Executive (our Commander In Chief).  Over time, this distinction has been watered down, by Bureaucrats assuming powers of the President that whey do not have.  This is the Deep State!
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: walkstall on March 02, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2018, 12:45:03 PM
Of which was unprecedented, and most likely illegal, but the GOP are cowards, so they did nothing to stop it.
Precedent does not make law, only Congress can do that, but the GOP has always let the left have their way, while holding themselves to a higher standard.

while some holding themselves to a higher standard.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: wally on March 02, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
It is my understanding that any POTUS can declassify anything for any reason.  The President and the Vice President are the only members of the Executive Branch given specific powers in our Constitution.  All other members of the Executive Branch derive their power from the Chief Executive (our Commander In Chief).  Over time, this distinction has been watered down, by Bureaucrats assuming powers of the President that whey do not have.  This is the Deep State!
There is a little thing known as procedure. Fact is, it was a political move which should never have happened, but like I said, the squishy GOP turned a blind eye.
Trump could leak this, but that is not what I want DC doing, it's corrupt enough already, so let the law play out in court and when it's time, the whole world will know the truth.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: wally on March 02, 2018, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2018, 01:02:28 PM
There is a little thing known as procedure. Fact is, it was a political move which should never have happened, but like I said, the squishy GOP turned a blind eye.
Trump could leak this, but that is not what I want DC doing, it's corrupt enough already, so let the law play out in court and when it's time, the whole world will know the truth.
A "leak" is making something public without using the proper legal procedure.  When the President orders something to be made public, it is not a leak, it is an authorized release of information.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 02:10:09 PM
Quote from: wally on March 02, 2018, 01:06:12 PM
A "leak" is making something public without using the proper legal procedure.  When the President orders something to be made public, it is not a leak, it is an authorized release of information.
Again, what Obozo did was in essence, illegal, no POTUS before him would have ever considered doing, so in truth, it was an illegal move, but since it went unchallenged, we now have a bad precedent.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: wally on March 02, 2018, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2018, 02:10:09 PM
Again, what Obozo did was in essence, illegal, no POTUS before him would have ever considered doing, so in truth, it was an illegal move, but since it went unchallenged, we now have a bad precedent.
I didn't like many of the things that Obama did. I especially didn't like his outing our heroic CIA Interrogators.  However, the POTUS has that power and authority. Under what law or provision of the Constitution would a President be forbidden from making something public that some subordinate in his Executive Branch has "classified"?  Just as Trump declassified the Nunes memo over the objections of the FBI & DOJ, Trump could declassify anything he wishes.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 03:06:45 PM
Quote from: wally on March 02, 2018, 02:24:09 PM
I didn't like many of the things that Obama did. I especially didn't like his outing our heroic CIA Interrogators.  However, the POTUS has that power and authority. Under what law or provision of the Constitution would a President be forbidden from making something public that some subordinate in his Executive Branch has "classified"?  Just as Trump declassified the Nunes memo over the objections of the FBI & DOJ, Trump could declassify anything he wishes.
So in your view, it would be a Presidents prerogative to release our nuclear codes?
There are limits to the power of the seat, and it still stands, Obozo broke the law, just because he wasn't brought up on charges, doesn't mean it was legal.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: mrclose on March 02, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
With all of these refusals to turn over documents requested by Congress from the FBI and the DOJ .. would someone remind me Who is in charge of said departments? :confused:
You do realize, this was an FOIA request, the first step required for said documents, that is, unless it's an official investigation, where a warrant is served and all documents related are then confiscated.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: wally on March 02, 2018, 03:12:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2018, 03:06:45 PM
So in your view, it would be a Presidents prerogative to release our nuclear codes?
There are limits to the power of the seat, and it still stands, Obozo broke the law, just because he wasn't brought up on charges, doesn't mean it was legal.
What law? (and no, I don't think any President is going to release our nuclear codes.)
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: wally on March 02, 2018, 03:12:20 PM
What law? (and no, I don't think any President is going to release our nuclear codes.)
Did you ever think for a moment a POTUS would disclose the secrets of a former POTUS?
Of course not, that's because it had never been done before. It's why there's a law in place that nothing become public till a POTUS has been out of office for five years. How long had Bush been out of office at that point?
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 02, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
Subpeonea time.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: taxed on March 02, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: wally on March 02, 2018, 03:12:20 PM
What law? (and no, I don't think any President is going to release our nuclear codes.)

Well, not intentionally...

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/president-bill-clinton-lost-nuclear-codes-office-book/story?id=11930878
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: taxed on March 02, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
Quote from: wally on March 02, 2018, 02:24:09 PM
I didn't like many of the things that Obama did. I especially didn't like his outing our heroic CIA Interrogators.  However, the POTUS has that power and authority. Under what law or provision of the Constitution would a President be forbidden from making something public that some subordinate in his Executive Branch has "classified"?  Just as Trump declassified the Nunes memo over the objections of the FBI & DOJ, Trump could declassify anything he wishes.

Do you not think Horowitz knows about this? Would releasing this affect any ongoing investigations?
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2018, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: taxed on March 02, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Well, not intentionally...

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/president-bill-clinton-lost-nuclear-codes-office-book/story?id=11930878
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Cryptic Bert on March 02, 2018, 07:18:44 PM
And it's unAmerican to question the FBI :rolleyes:

The FBI has to be gutted. Bomb the village and start over.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: supsalemgr on March 03, 2018, 04:42:14 AM
I know all this is frustrating. However, like Solar, I believe this is a designed plan by Trump. He controls the calendar.
Title: Re: FBI Refuses to Release Docs About Secret Comey-Obama Meeting,
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2018, 06:07:56 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 03, 2018, 04:42:14 AM
I know all this is frustrating. However, like Solar, I believe this is a designed plan by Trump. He controls the calendar.
Yeah, with hindsight being 20/20, this puzzle is coming together, and if you look closely, it obvious Trump is solidly winning this thing.
Hell, the left is in such a panic, that they're trying to stop the message coming from the Right. Now, how laughably preteen girly can the left get?
They can try and stall all they want, but their actions expose just how scared they are.