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Title: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: walkstall on January 29, 2018, 10:18:57 AM

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FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepped down Monday, multiple sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-stepping-down-n842176
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: supsalemgr on January 29, 2018, 10:53:28 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 29, 2018, 10:18:57 AM
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FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepped down Monday, multiple sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-stepping-down-n842176

Let's just hope this is the first cleanup call on the FBI aisle.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Sauce on January 29, 2018, 11:54:05 AM

Another non LSM take on the resignation...hat tip to CTH

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/29/hours-after-fbi-director-chris-wray-reviews-house-intel-memo-asst-fbi-director-mccabe-resigns/#more-145149 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/29/hours-after-fbi-director-chris-wray-reviews-house-intel-memo-asst-fbi-director-mccabe-resigns/#more-145149)
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Solar on January 29, 2018, 12:23:18 PM
Deputy Director McCabe FIRED on Monday After FBI Director Wray Reads Memo on Sunday

FIRST CASUALTY OF FISA MEMO! ...Deputy Director McCabe FIRED on Monday After FBI Director Wray Reads Memo on Sunday

FOX News correspondent Catherine Herridge reported on Monday that FBI Director Christopher Wray viewed the explosive FISA memo this weekend.


Chad Pergram from FOX News tweeted: Colleague Catherine Herridge reports FBI Director Christopher Wray went to Capitol Hill Sunday to view the four page memo on FISA abuses.

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/first-casualty-fisa-memo-director-wray-reads-fisa-memo-sunday-deputy-director-mccabe-steps-monday/?omhide=true&utm_source=TGP+Communications&utm_campaign=3a63c3f812-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_01_29su_2018&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b3f16dae4d-3a63c3f812-18625017
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: walkstall on January 29, 2018, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Sauce on January 29, 2018, 11:54:05 AM
Another non LSM take on the resignation...hat tip to CTH

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/29/hours-after-fbi-director-chris-wray-reviews-house-intel-memo-asst-fbi-director-mccabe-resigns/#more-145149 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/29/hours-after-fbi-director-chris-wray-reviews-house-intel-memo-asst-fbi-director-mccabe-resigns/#more-145149)


Hmm...
QuoteToday, the FBI releases an announcement saying Deputy FBI Director Andrew "Andy" McCabe has stepped down (been removed) from his position effective immediately.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Sauce on January 29, 2018, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: mrclose on January 29, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
How does stepping down become fired?  :confused:

(click bait I suspect?)


Well, I know I take everything the FBI has been saying the 2 years or so at face value :biggrin:
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: supsalemgr on January 29, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
Quote from: mrclose on January 29, 2018, 12:36:19 PM

How does stepping down become fired?  :confused:

(click bait I suspect?)

It is Washington so everything is semantics. Call it what we may - it is good news he is gone.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: walkstall on January 29, 2018, 12:48:10 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 29, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
It is Washington so everything is semantics. Call it what we may - it is good news he is gone.



It has started...
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Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: supsalemgr on January 29, 2018, 01:01:49 PM
Quote from: walkstall on January 29, 2018, 12:48:10 PM


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Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Solar on January 29, 2018, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: mrclose on January 29, 2018, 12:36:19 PM

How does stepping down become fired?  :confused:

(click bait I suspect?)
I think he was given two options, walk away immediately, or you're fired.
Yeah, pure semantics.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 29, 2018, 04:31:53 PM
First DemocRAT to jump the sinking ship....or perhaps he was thrown off....... :popcorn:
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Solar on January 29, 2018, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 29, 2018, 04:31:53 PM
First DemocRAT to jump the sinking ship....or perhaps he was thrown off....... :popcorn:
:lol:
Soon, they'll all be wishing they'd joined him in the life raft.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 29, 2018, 05:36:50 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 29, 2018, 03:18:13 PM
I think he was given two options, walk away immediately, or you're fired.
Yeah, pure semantics.

I think he was offered what would have been a demotion.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Solar on January 29, 2018, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 29, 2018, 05:36:50 PM
I think he was offered what would have been a demotion.
I doubt it, but we'll know for certain once the memo is released.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: walkstall on January 30, 2018, 05:36:56 AM
FBI Director Wray "Shocked To His Core" By FISA Memo, McCabe 'Removed' Next Day, More Heads To Roll: Report


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Sara Carter: Shocked him to his core, and not only that, the Inspector General's report - I have been told tonight by a number of sources, there's indicators right now that McCabe may have asked FBI agents to actually change their 302's - those are their interviews with witnesses. So basically every time an FBI agent interviews a witness, they have to go back and file a report.


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Carter: Exactly. This is something the Inspector General is investigating. If this is true and not alleged, McCabe will be fired. I heard they are considering firing him within the next few days if this turns out to be true.


more @
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/fbi-director-wray-shocked-his-core-fisa-memo-mccabe-removed-next-day-more-heads
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 30, 2018, 06:05:28 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 30, 2018, 05:36:56 AM

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Sara Carter: Shocked him to his core, and not only that, the Inspector General's report - I have been told tonight by a number of sources, there's indicators right now that McCabe may have asked FBI agents to actually change their 302's - those are their interviews with witnesses. So basically every time an FBI agent interviews a witness, they have to go back and file a report.


more @
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/fbi-director-wray-shocked-his-core-fisa-memo-mccabe-removed-next-day-more-heads

This is UNIVERSAL with Law Enforcement, the name of the report might differ but yes, every time you interview a witness, suspect, gather a piece of evidence IT MUST be documented, most investigators also make written note's
so the hand written notes are often photocopied. All of these REPORTS go into a a CASE FILE JACKET....subject to REVIEW, periodically by a SUPERVISOR. INVESTIGATIVE CASE JACKETS are usually kept under lock and key with limited access....DETERMINED BY THE CASE AGENT.

Now back in my day, reports were done on a form that had five carbon copies. Said copies were supposed to be disbursed throughout the Dept to include records and Statistics, AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, however, ongoing investigations or "sensitive" cases were not disbursed of course until after a Trial or what have you.

  I imagine nowadays that everything is done on computer and in a zip file or data storage device and only printed out  going to court.  I don't know what the procedure for the FBI is, but I would imagine there is some "Hard Copy" of all material in a case file jacket.  It might be easy to change a computer generated report but a "hard copy" would have to be pulled and destroyed or amended BY DATE.

Last but not least all of the aforementioned material is DISCOVERABLE EVIDENCE by the suspect/accused's Attorney.
If there are any changes, redactions or 'anomolies' the Attorney is going to jump on it in court.

You get some idea of how Investigative files are compiled and maintained. Pay attention to that part about SUPERVISORY REVIEW and approval of all reports....there is a paper trail....WITH SOMEONES NAME ON IT.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Solar on January 30, 2018, 06:58:09 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 30, 2018, 05:36:56 AM
FBI Director Wray "Shocked To His Core" By FISA Memo, McCabe 'Removed' Next Day, More Heads To Roll: Report


snip~
Sara Carter: Shocked him to his core, and not only that, the Inspector General's report - I have been told tonight by a number of sources, there's indicators right now that McCabe may have asked FBI agents to actually change their 302's - those are their interviews with witnesses. So basically every time an FBI agent interviews a witness, they have to go back and file a report.


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Carter: Exactly. This is something the Inspector General is investigating. If this is true and not alleged, McCabe will be fired. I heard they are considering firing him within the next few days if this turns out to be true.


more @
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/fbi-director-wray-shocked-his-core-fisa-memo-mccabe-removed-next-day-more-heads

Knew it. Now the investigation expands into whether any agents went back and changed the evidence.

"McCabe may have asked FBI agents to actually change their 302's - those are their interviews with witnesses."
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: AndyJackson on January 30, 2018, 07:05:05 AM
I doubt Wray was "shocked" about anything.  More like he knew all the crimes and was laying low until he saw it was all in the memo, and probably going public.  Then and only then did he need to be "shocked" and do something RIGHT NOW.

Wray may not be as dirty as the rest, but I think he's in the club and would gladly go along to get along.

Which makes you wonder why Trump keeps appointing these career guys who are likely connected to the mess.

I can only hope it's because he has the goods on all of them, and is just playing with them, shuffling them around to see if they'll get even crazier and do even worse at the bitter end.  Sounds like fun.

Supposedly McCabe has stated that he will "burn down the FBI" if he loses the pension.  Oh pleeeeaase, take the dude's pension, this can only get better.  If Trump is made aware of that statement, there's good odds that he engineers the taking of the pension, just to trigger whatever the hell McCabe's wrath would be.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Bronx on January 30, 2018, 07:15:10 AM
Quote from: mrclose on January 29, 2018, 12:16:51 PM
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Is that Hillary laying in the back seat with a mask on...... :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Solar on January 30, 2018, 07:18:18 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 30, 2018, 07:05:05 AM
I doubt Wray was "shocked" about anything.  More like he knew all the crimes and was laying low until he saw it was all in the memo, and probably going public.  Then and only then did he need to be "shocked" and do something RIGHT NOW.

Wray may not be as dirty as the rest, but I think he's in the club and would gladly go along to get along.

Which makes you wonder why Trump keeps appointing these career guys who are likely connected to the mess.

I can only hope it's because he has the goods on all of them, and is just playing with them, shuffling them around to see if they'll get even crazier and do even worse at the bitter end.  Sounds like fun.

Supposedly McCabe has stated that he will "burn down the FBI" if he loses the pension.  Oh pleeeeaase, take the dude's pension, this can only get better.  If Trump is made aware of that statement, there's good odds that he engineers the taking of the pension, just to trigger whatever the hell McCabe's wrath would be.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, I think the shock comes from discovering jet how far the investigation goes, not so much as to what is in it, but how far the tentacles reach.
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: cubs2016 on January 30, 2018, 07:52:51 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 30, 2018, 07:05:05 AM
I doubt Wray was "shocked" about anything.  More like he knew all the crimes and was laying low until he saw it was all in the memo, and probably going public.  Then and only then did he need to be "shocked" and do something RIGHT NOW.

Wray may not be as dirty as the rest, but I think he's in the club and would gladly go along to get along.

Which makes you wonder why Trump keeps appointing these career guys who are likely connected to the mess.

I can only hope it's because he has the goods on all of them, and is just playing with them, shuffling them around to see if they'll get even crazier and do even worse at the bitter end.  Sounds like fun.

Supposedly McCabe has stated that he will "burn down the FBI" if he loses the pension.  Oh pleeeeaase, take the dude's pension, this can only get better.  If Trump is made aware of that statement, there's good odds that he engineers the taking of the pension, just to trigger whatever the hell McCabe's wrath would be.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe stepping down
Post by: Possum on January 30, 2018, 02:19:47 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 30, 2018, 07:05:05 AM
I doubt Wray was "shocked" about anything.  More like he knew all the crimes and was laying low until he saw it was all in the memo, and probably going public.  Then and only then did he need to be "shocked" and do something RIGHT NOW.

Wray may not be as dirty as the rest, but I think he's in the club and would gladly go along to get along.

Which makes you wonder why Trump keeps appointing these career guys who are likely connected to the mess.

I can only hope it's because he has the goods on all of them, and is just playing with them, shuffling them around to see if they'll get even crazier and do even worse at the bitter end.  Sounds like fun.

Supposedly McCabe has stated that he will "burn down the FBI" if he loses the pension.  Oh pleeeeaase, take the dude's pension, this can only get better.  If Trump is made aware of that statement, there's good odds that he engineers the taking of the pension, just to trigger whatever the hell McCabe's wrath would be.
when McCabe decided to make deals with the devil, he should have been ready to go to hell. Wonder if he is expecting hillary and obama to bail him out now?