I say this because so many on the Right tend to fall into "We're all gonna die" mode, instead of what Reagan espoused in his eternal optimism, but today, because of a failure of leadership in the GOP, people see no hope for the future, and By God, I don't blame them one damn bit.
But I hope I can change their mind.

No matter how one looks at the situation we're in today, one thing stands out clearly, and that's the TEA movement sprang up because of the GOP leadership, and if one really looks at the pattern the GOP has taken, (conspiracy or not) the GOP moved hard left as well, and the only explanation is an leftist infiltration of the GOP.

With this in mind, and knowing just how big TEA has become, (now listed as the GOP's #1 enemy), even more so than the opposition party, should tell you just how big a threat we really are.
So here's the reason for posting this, I want to help you see that there is no need for despair.

If you go to other forums, what is the recurring theme that seems to create the most posts?
Pessimism, and why? Because people want too vent, they're pissed at the GOP and it's leftist agenda, and based on historical data they have every reason to be concerned, but they're just angry and want to vent.
But what happens when the message of doom takes over a forum? People lose confidence that we are stealing the GOP from the leftists.
And what happens to the thousands reading these posts of doom? They too lose sight of the reality that we're making serious change.

Messages of doom unchallenged, tend to spread like a cancer, and our only way to fight back is to stand strong, which is why so many on this forum take on the challenge when people lose sight of our goal.

In closing, what I'm asking of the new members is leave the doom and gloom to the other forums, we simply don't think think there's even a remote possibility that the establishment or Marxists have a chance of holding the Nation hostage, regardless of what the leftist media tells you, including FOX, an arm of the establishment.

Sure, feel free to vent, but be sure and qualify it, because you have a huge audience, one that doesn't know you like the regular members on the forum.
Remember, you are influencing thousands when you post. As a member, you are part of a small percentage of the vocal opposition, a special breed with the ability to communicate, something your audience either can't do, or hasn't the time for.
So use your ability wisely.
Thanks....

haha, preach it bruddah  !!!  I know you're talking to me.

I don't think it's hopeless....my message is more that it's high time to go on the hardcore offensive, and not rely on what's "obvious" to us.

What's "obvious" to us means nothing to the criminal enterprise that has no relationship to truth, logic, American values (no monolithic govt control / property rights / individual freedom above welfare), Christian values (turn the other cheek / do unto others / love thy neighbor / forgiveness above all).

They have successfully kicked our asses for 40 years because we just give in to their indecency and conniving.

Time for a different tack.  And we can win if we do so, lose if we don't.

The Ken Burns "fawning celebration of all things Roosevelt" really gave me a jolt.

They (Burns / MSM / PBS) loved FDR obviously, because he was the biggest communist dictator that the US has known.  4 terms as President, stopped only by death.  I guess he would have been happiest with a lifetime appointment a la Hitler or Castro or Chavez.  Soul-less, POS philanderer-cheater just like Clinton-Kennedy-LBJ.  Invented every communist/ handout program that we enjoy today.  Tried to destroy the US Supreme Court and recreate it in his image; tried to destroy the US business system and recreate it in his imperial image (replete with "FDR" window decals like the "Jew-Star-of-David" in Jewish businesses a la Hitler).

Teddy was a little different.  He was a hardcore conservative man's man..........until he flat out abandoned / left hanging the Bull Moose guys (that era's Tea Party), to return to a GOP that resembles today's RINO's.  Amazingly, they sort of told the truth on this.....but carefully glossed over it as though it was the right thing to do.

So there you have it.  A tale of the Rockefellers' devotion to big govt / NWO / socialism / progressivism........and so on.  And the PBS / Burns fawning love of it all.

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 28, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
haha, preach it bruddah  !!!  I know you're talking to me.

I don't think it's hopeless....my message is more that it's high time to go on the hardcore offensive, and not rely on what's "obvious" to us.

What's "obvious" to us means nothing to the criminal enterprise that has no relationship to truth, logic, American values (no monolithic govt control / property rights / individual freedom above welfare), Christian values (turn the other cheek / do unto others / love thy neighbor / forgiveness above all).

They have successfully kicked our asses for 40 years because we just give in to their indecency and conniving.

Time for a different tack.  And we can win if we do so, lose if we don't.

I don't think they have kicked our asses for 40 years, but it is what the MSM likes to spread. Since 1970 the GOP has had the WH 26 years and the dems 18. We have had held our own with the Senate and the House and have a majority of the governors now. State legislatures have been swinging to the GOP. It is an effort to demoralize us as they are not winning, but they never give up. It reminds me of the old saying, "If you think you can, you can. If you think you can't, you're right". We cannot fall into that trap!

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 28, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
haha, preach it bruddah  !!!  I know you're talking to me.

I don't think it's hopeless....my message is more that it's high time to go on the hardcore offensive, and not rely on what's "obvious" to us.

What's "obvious" to us means nothing to the criminal enterprise that has no relationship to truth, logic, American values (no monolithic govt control / property rights / individual freedom above welfare), Christian values (turn the other cheek / do unto others / love thy neighbor / forgiveness above all).

They have successfully kicked our asses for 40 years because we just give in to their indecency and conniving.

Time for a different tack.  And we can win if we do so, lose if we don't.

Actually I didn't have you in mind, rather directed at people joining thinking we're like all the other whiny forums.

Whine ...never.  Bitch, yes ...but whine?

There is always hope. and I firmly believe that "We the People" WILL prevail.

"I Believe in the United States of America as a Government of the people, by the people, for the people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a republic; a sovereign nation of many sovereign states; a perfect union, one and inseparable; established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes.

I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it; to support its Constitution; to obey its laws; to respect its flag; and to defend it against ALL enemies.

Quote from: suzziY on September 28, 2014, 06:41:40 PM
Whine ...never.  Bitch, yes ...but whine?

There is always hope. and I firmly believe that "We the People" WILL prevail.

"I Believe in the United States of America as a Government of the people, by the people, for the people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a republic; a sovereign nation of many sovereign states; a perfect union, one and inseparable; established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes.

I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it; to support its Constitution; to obey its laws; to respect its flag; and to defend it against ALL enemies.

Foreign and Domestic

Quote from: admin on September 28, 2014, 12:54:55 PM
Actually I didn't have you in mind, rather directed at people joining thinking we're like all the other whiny forums.

I thought I was having witty repartee with Solar.....strange.....but I get the basic sentiment.

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 28, 2014, 08:32:06 PM
I thought I was having witty repartee with Solar.....strange.....but I get the basic sentiment.

You do know, we're one in the same, right?

The GOP base is full of tired, depressed people that complain about the GOP. A small percentage of them realized they can no longer live with liberal polices and relying on the GOP to fight for them was useless. THEY became the Tea Party. This isn't going to be a quick fix. It will take years. Why? Politics. And because of politics we cannot expect the GOP to simply pass Conservative legislation. It's not that easy. There gas to be give and take. However, long term we now know we will win. Either as a 3'rd party or as the dominant part of the GOP.

As far as the whining goes. Yeah the GOP deserves a lot of blame but blaming them for everything from male pattern baldness to the Crimean war accomplishes  nothing. Keep it honest.

      How is a person supposed to react to a highlighted and pinned post
by the site owner informing participants that pessimistic and gloom and
doom posts are not welcome or appreciated on his and the old timers'
forum?
      What is pessimism?  If pessimism can be described  as it the general
tone of Tea Party posts, I'd might draw our attention to Tea Party Nation,
Tea Party Organizers, Blaze, Brietbart, Judicial Watch, Americans for Prosperity,
the sites of Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mike Lee, and the work of Daryll Issa and
Trey Gowdy. That is just to name a handful of resources who are far from
pessimistic.
       I'm not sure what gloom and doom really means, either. What I am seeing
is a call for redress of grievances. I was just going over research on reasons
people provide for not voting. The top reasons are  predictable: too busy, not interested, not eligible, not registered. Then there is this group that seems to
draw attention in excess of its 15% of non voters, and that is the disconnected,
alienated, disgusted with both parties, people who don't vote as a kind of
childish form of passive aggression -- holding the breath until the parent gives in.
protest.  I think this is the gloom and doom position.
       Just to be pessimistic or alarmed?  Hah. I wish more were.
   
        Not knocking the announcement, really, but rather making one of my own
that my intention is to keep writing, keep throwing the ideas out, no matter how
close to the edge some of them are.  I am open to all serious and honest
objections; for me, clearing out is no more or less complicated than
a click of delete from Bookmarks.


     

WTF? Why is it people think I was talking about anyone on this forum? (There may ave been a couple in the past)
But I wasn't, it. It was a rhetorical statement, one designed for incoming "NEW" members, people that have been on these other forums where the idea that the left has won, lives like a cancer, then comes here to escape, only to post the same BS here..

I don't know if any of you ever get out to other forums, but I see plenty where this "We're all gonna die" BS feeds on itself. I'm trying to head it off, my point isn't to stifle anyone, rather make them aware that you aren't just talking to a few other posting members, but thousands daily and having an effect on other peoples views, yes, you have the power of influence.

What part of "NEW" members does one not understand, not existing members, but incoming new members.
(think Washington, the latest RINO troll claiming to be Conservative) And political genius, of all things.

The point of the post is to not be sucked into the "all hope is lost" BS. I know that no one here actually believes that to be the case, many are just venting, but to a casual reader that doesn't follow the forum, it looks very different.

This is not some sort of edict, rather just a reminder that you all have actual influence..
Remember, the GOP and DNC read this site daily, so if you want to communicate exactly what you think, this is your chance.

Thing is, we're just a short time away from the election, and I expect an influx of "new members", and what I don't want to see is people falling for shill posters, because I assure you, they will start rolling in soon, paid to change the mood from one of faith that we are winning, to one of doubt.
Don't think for a second both party's aren't paying people to post their message of "we're your only option".

I guess I was being too subtle in the OP and people missed the message.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2014, 06:38:42 AM
WTF? Why is it people think I was talking about anyone on this forum? (There may ave been a couple in the past)
But I wasn't, it. It was a rhetorical statement, one designed for incoming "NEW" members, people that have been on these other forums where the idea that the left has won, lives like a cancer, then comes here to escape, only to post the same BS here..

I don't know if any of you ever get out to other forums, but I see plenty where this "We're all gonna die" BS feeds on itself. I'm trying to head it off, my point isn't to stifle anyone, rather make them aware that you aren't just talking to a few other posting members, but thousands daily and having an effect on other peoples views, yes, you have the power of influence.

What part of "NEW" members does one not understand, not existing members, but incoming new members.
(think Washington, the latest RINO troll claiming to be Conservative) And political genius, of all things.

The point of the post is to not be sucked into the "all hope is lost" BS. I know that no one here actually believes that to be the case, many are just venting, but to a casual reader that doesn't follow the forum, it looks very different.

This is not some sort of edict, rather just a reminder that you all have actual influence..
Remember, the GOP and DNC read this site daily, so if you want to communicate exactly what you think, this is your chance.

Thing is, we're just a short time away from the election, and I expect an influx of "new members", and what I don't want to see is people falling for shill posters, because I assure you, they will start rolling in soon, paid to change the mood from one of faith that we are winning, to one of doubt.
Don't think for a second both party's aren't paying people to post their message of "we're your only option".

I guess I was being too subtle in the OP and people missed the message.

Yes, there might be a lot of shill posters ... and both parties are notorious for "we're your only option".  Must of us in here from what I can gather are a hell of a lot smarter than that.

With that being said, and what has happened since Obama took office, I do believe that there is more hope for this country if the GOP takes the Senate than if it remains status quo.  For our country the GOP not taking the Senate will have some serious disadvantages and it is also obvious to most, that this country cannot continue on its current course and survive as we now know it.  You may see that as me advocating that the GOP is the only option ... right now in order to to have a more conservative Senate ... that's what we have to work with.

The reason for quoting William Tyler Page was his statement is something I firmly believe in.  This country, our Constitution and the principles upon which this country was founded is worth fighting for ... TEA is in for an uphill battle ... but it's a battle we have already begun and have seen some real progress and I don't see anybody throwing in the towel...quite the opposite.

I'm not optimistic about the future of the country or the GOP.

How does one undo the liberal agenda, when they are brainwashing our future voters starting in the cradle?

Liberals have been subverting the Constitution and demonizing conservative views by infiltrating ever single aspect of society and government.  Their ideology, politics and talking points are now in everything that affects and controls our lives.  Maybe we have a memory of what America used to look like, but our young people today don't know what they don't know.









 

   

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2014, 06:38:42 AM
WTF? Why is it people think I was talking about anyone on this forum? (There may ave been a couple in the past)
But I wasn't, it. It was a rhetorical statement, one designed for incoming "NEW" members, people that have been on these other forums where the idea that the left has won, lives like a cancer, then comes here to escape, only to post the same BS here..

I don't know if any of you ever get out to other forums, but I see plenty where this "We're all gonna die" BS feeds on itself. I'm trying to head it off, my point isn't to stifle anyone, rather make them aware that you aren't just talking to a few other posting members, but thousands daily and having an effect on other peoples views, yes, you have the power of influence.

What part of "NEW" members does one not understand, not existing members, but incoming new members.
(think Washington, the latest RINO troll claiming to be Conservative) And political genius, of all things.

The point of the post is to not be sucked into the "all hope is lost" BS. I know that no one here actually believes that to be the case, many are just venting, but to a casual reader that doesn't follow the forum, it looks very different.

This is not some sort of edict, rather just a reminder that you all have actual influence..
Remember, the GOP and DNC read this site daily, so if you want to communicate exactly what you think, this is your chance.

Thing is, we're just a short time away from the election, and I expect an influx of "new members", and what I don't want to see is people falling for shill posters, because I assure you, they will start rolling in soon, paid to change the mood from one of faith that we are winning, to one of doubt.
Don't think for a second both party's aren't paying people to post their message of "we're your only option".

I guess I was being too subtle in the OP and people missed the message.

Don't think for a minute that you weren't clear, solar.  It is clear to me that a reminder is needed, especially since ones like the former poster-Washington are allowed to stay for awhile.  He was treated more than abundantly fair, more so than I would have done.  He was explained the TEA movement and swore that he was Conservative, yet continually spouted liberal talking points, could not answer a simple yes or no question without being pinned to the wall.  So have others that have posted here and left.

The message here ought to be one of optimism, one of love for the freedoms we have.  Except for the occasional loper or troll, we have that friendly base and support one another's views in a friendly opinion or debate setting.  Arguing over the differences in political parties gets us nowhere.  A simple stating of facts does much to support the movement of TEA.  The ugly stuff is already out there and it is ok to point it out, matter of fact we should.  It is ok to be indignant but without whining and taking the position of defeat.

This is the perfect spot for me to make this comment too.  On several threads I noticed a number exceeding 1000 views but far less comments.  To these readers I would invite you to share your thoughts.  We do have one of the best forums going forth and you will have every opportunity to support the movement of TEA here.  The administrator and the mods will see to it that your stay here will be one that you will want to be permanent.