Quote from: keyboarder on September 29, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
Don't think for a minute that you weren't clear, solar.  It is clear to me that a reminder is needed, especially since ones like the former poster-Washington are allowed to stay for awhile.  He was treated more than abundantly fair, more so than I would have done.  He was explained the TEA movement and swore that he was Conservative, yet continually spouted liberal talking points, could not answer a simple yes or no question without being pinned to the wall.  So have others that have posted here and left.

The message here ought to be one of optimism, one of love for the freedoms we have.  Except for the occasional loper or troll, we have that friendly base and support one another's views in a friendly opinion or debate setting.  Arguing over the differences in political parties gets us nowhere.  A simple stating of facts does much to support the movement of TEA.  The ugly stuff is already out there and it is ok to point it out, matter of fact we should.  It is ok to be indignant but without whining and taking the position of defeat.

This is the perfect spot for me to make this comment too.  On several threads I noticed a number exceeding 1000 views but far less comments.  To these readers I would invite you to share your thoughts.  We do have one of the best forums going forth and you will have every opportunity to support the movement of TEA here.  The administrator and the mods will see to it that your stay here will be one that you will want to be permanent.

There a lot of viewers from other boards that have no desire to join the debate.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 29, 2014, 10:40:58 AM
There a lot of viewers from other boards that have no desire to join the debate.

Some are just that private I'd venture to say.  Some just have ideas that mirror what they read here and that's all they need.  My husband is what I'd call a radical right and that's probably the reason I can't get him to enter the discussion here.  His twenty was spent during the "nam era and the race riots in the states so he's very opinionated, especially in the era we now live.  Whew, you wouldn't believe what I hear from him every time the word "Bozo" is mentioned. 

Quote from: keyboarder on September 29, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
Don't think for a minute that you weren't clear, solar.  It is clear to me that a reminder is needed, especially since ones like the former poster-Washington are allowed to stay for awhile.  He was treated more than abundantly fair, more so than I would have done.  He was explained the TEA movement and swore that he was Conservative, yet continually spouted liberal talking points, could not answer a simple yes or no question without being pinned to the wall.  So have others that have posted here and left.

The message here ought to be one of optimism, one of love for the freedoms we have.  Except for the occasional loper or troll, we have that friendly base and support one another's views in a friendly opinion or debate setting.  Arguing over the differences in political parties gets us nowhere.  A simple stating of facts does much to support the movement of TEA.  The ugly stuff is already out there and it is ok to point it out, matter of fact we should.  It is ok to be indignant but without whining and taking the position of defeat.

This is the perfect spot for me to make this comment too.  On several threads I noticed a number exceeding 1000 views but far less comments.  To these readers I would invite you to share your thoughts.  We do have one of the best forums going forth and you will have every opportunity to support the movement of TEA here.  The administrator and the mods will see to it that your stay here will be one that you will want to be permanent.

You nailed it exactly! Well stated, Hell, I should have had you write the OP.

Quote from: Dori on September 29, 2014, 09:19:04 AM
I'm not optimistic about the future of the country or the GOP.

How does one undo the liberal agenda, when they are brainwashing our future voters starting in the cradle?

Liberals have been subverting the Constitution and demonizing conservative views by infiltrating ever single aspect of society and government.  Their ideology, politics and talking points are now in everything that affects and controls our lives.  Maybe we have a memory of what America used to look like, but our young people today don't know what they don't know.

I don't have all the answers of course, just a very strong opinion and I listen to my gut instinct alot and yes, I agree that the liberal leftist mental midgets have brainwashed future voters to an extent.  However, my kids who are now adults and are of voting age, who have gone through the public educational system and college ... do recognize what is going on around them.  Their friends recognize what the Obama administration has done. I am not implying that they are the majority of our youth, but life circumstances does tend to open eyes and all I can say is, please keep in mind that the MSM and all liberals would love nothing more than for conservatives and conservative minded people to give up and to assume that all young people are liberal ... that conservatism doesn't stand a chance ... that just isn't true.  Case in point; one of my daughter's classmates in school is now a Republican state representative and was just re-elected by a landslide.  The left tried everything to destroy his credibility and every launched an attack trying to claim that he was anti-NRA...it was ugly ... but conservatism won.  He didn't back down.  The voters obviously didn't buy into the liberal hype.

All is NOT lost...unless you allow the liberals to convince you that it is.

We have the Constitution which is the greatest document ever written.  Yes this administration and the administrations of past have somewhat trampled on it ... BUT because of that blatant disregard, conservative minded people are standing up ... TEA candidates have been elected at the federal level.  States with Republican governors have made more progress than states with Democratic governors.  Do we have RINO's in Congress and the Senate absolutely.  We need to vote them out ... one by one.  It is not going to happen overnight.  Make your voice heard through phone calls (even to other reps in other states) faxes, e-mails, attending TEA rallies in you area, getting involved may not seem like it will make a difference but it will...eventually.  The GOP establishment knows it, the Dems know it.  Heck I have stood outside polling places (by myself) and talked to people and passed out literature, etc...nope, not all people are receptive, and people may cuss and swear ... so what?  But, I can almost guarantee you that some of those same people who thought I was some crazed conservative, just may be thinking differently right now because of the turmoil inflicted upon this country due to the liberal left agenda (really since LBJ's plan for a "Great Society") ... liberalism is dying.  Liberalism hasn't worked, isn't working and won't work.

Take a look around you.  Right now, as of today, what component of liberalism is working?  People in this country are uncomfortable with the status quo ... we as conservatives have to show them and remind them of a better way...adhering to the U.S. Constitution and making sure that our current laws are adhered to.
"We the People" prevailed long ago and many many people risked everything and some paid the ultimate price with their lives...we WILL prevail again.







 

P.S....hmmm... quote function for my last post didn't work.

Quote from: suzziY on September 29, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
P.S....hmmm... quote function for my last post didn't work.

fify.

No matter what shape the Country's in, I vote for the woman or man who wears the 'R'.

we'll be right back...

Famous Alka-Seltzer "No Matter What Shape" TV Commercial - from 1966!

1960s Texaco Jingle

Quote from: suzziY on September 29, 2014, 01:51:46 PM
All is NOT lost...unless you allow the liberals to convince you that it is.

I'll never allow liberals to convince me.  My concern, like I said, is with future generations.

What's going on with our kids today, is very insidious. The liberal's war of ideas are winning.  It's a well known fact that upwards of 90% of colleges are liberal.  These are the institutions that are producing future leaders in both government agencies and in the business and science fields.  Some colleges have even admitted that they don't want conservative professors. 

This is where I see that conservatives are losing the war of ideas and have ignored what's going on.  Why do we hear so many stories about all the insane events going on in public education?  Why is entertainment, movies and television, infused with liberal agendas and politics?   I caught the new show "Madam Secretary" last night.  They even had a Benghazi event in it.  Talk about propaganda leading to Hillary's run for 2016.

I could bring up dozens of other things, from the Girl Scouts being taken over by the liberal agenda, to the war on Christians, to not saying the pledge of allegiance in schools, to what's on Sesame Street.  It's everywhere, and I don't see any conservatives sounding the alarms, or worse, counteracting the effects with programs of their own. 

I see the whole liberal vs conservative thing as a war.  A war that we are losing. 

Quote from: Dori on September 29, 2014, 03:36:59 PM
I'll never allow liberals to convince me.  My concern, like I said, is with future generations.

What's going on with our kids today, is very insidious. The liberal's war of ideas are winning.  It's a well known fact that upwards of 90% of colleges are liberal.  These are the institutions that are producing future leaders in both government agencies and in the business and science fields.  Some colleges have even admitted that they don't want conservative professors. 

This is where I see that conservatives are losing the war of ideas and have ignored what's going on.  Why do we hear so many stories about all the insane events going on in public education?  Why is entertainment, movies and television, infused with liberal agendas and politics?   I caught the new show "Madam Secretary" last night.  They even had a Benghazi event in it.  Talk about propaganda leading to Hillary's run for 2016.

I could bring up dozens of other things, from the Girl Scouts being taken over by the liberal agenda, to the war on Christians, to not saying the pledge of allegiance in schools, to what's on Sesame Street.  It's everywhere, and I don't see any conservatives sounding the alarms, or worse, counteracting the effects with programs of their own. 

I see the whole liberal vs conservative thing as a war.  A war that we are losing.

I clearly hear what you are saying loud and clear.  There is no doubt that this country has veered to the left all in the name of political correctness and acceptance.  I could begin to list all the ramifications of liberalism, but you and most in this forum are very aware of them.  Liberalism hasn't worked for decades and certainly isn't working today.   I don't see that it is a war that we are losing, I see it as a war that they have already lost.  The upcoming mid-term election is critical ... the Dems pretty much know that they've lost ... even the liberal media has hinted to that.

Maybe I am totally incorrect here, but I am of the opinion that those that go to the polls that have lost their jobs, their homes, their health care may not be so easily swayed to vote to keep our country headed in the same direction, especially with the current unrest in the Middle East; a threat that we were told was over and especially since the hope and change that we were promised was never delivered. Liberalism doesn't work.

Quote from: suzziY on September 29, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
I clearly hear what you are saying loud and clear.  There is no doubt that this country has veered to the left all in the name of political correctness and acceptance.  I could begin to list all the ramifications of liberalism, but you and most in this forum are very aware of them.  Liberalism hasn't worked for decades and certainly isn't working today.   I don't see that it is a war that we are losing, I see it as a war that they have already lost.  The upcoming mid-term election is critical ... the Dems pretty much know that they've lost ... even the liberal media has hinted to that.

Maybe I am totally incorrect here, but I am of the opinion that those that go to the polls that have lost their jobs, their homes, their health care may not be so easily swayed to vote to keep our country headed in the same direction, especially with the current unrest in the Middle East; a threat that we were told was over and especially since the hope and change that we were promised was never delivered. Liberalism doesn't work.

Don't forget all the mom, dad's, and grandparents that have adult children living at home along with kids or grandkids.  It is adding up big time now.   

Quote from: Solar on September 28, 2014, 08:40:56 PM
You do know, we're one in the same, right?

Sorry, nope, lol.  I'll be doggoned.

The one thing that we do have to be hopeful for, is the ever repeating heroism of GOP presidents who fix the inevitable F-UP's of all dem presidents.  Nixon saved us from JFK-LBJ, before he flamed out.  Reagan saved us from the disaster of Carter.  Clinton left a recession (despite the incredible luck of the dotcom boom and Newt's adult fiscal efforts) AND 9-11 in GW's lap, which he dealt with pretty well with before succumbing to the costs of 9-11-GWOT and the housing-derivatives bust.

Now we will enjoy yet another GOP / TP recovery from Obama.  And so it goes.

Quote from: Solar on September 29, 2014, 11:38:14 AM
You nailed it exactly! Well stated, Hell, I should have had you write the OP.

I couldn't even come close to what you and the other mods do here.  I can certainly cheer you on.  Y'all do a fantastic job with this forum and better yet-getting all the latest and most important topics of interest to  us readers/posters.  Did I say "thanx"?   

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 29, 2014, 08:22:14 PM
The one thing that we do have to be hopeful for, is the ever repeating heroism of GOP presidents who fix the inevitable F-UP's of all dem presidents.  Nixon saved us from JFK-LBJ, before he flamed out.  Reagan saved us from the disaster of Carter.  Clinton left a recession (despite the incredible luck of the dotcom boom and Newt's adult fiscal efforts) AND 9-11 in GW's lap, which he dealt with pretty well with before succumbing to the costs of 9-11-GWOT and the housing-derivatives bust.

Now we will enjoy yet another GOP / TP recovery from Obama.  And so it goes.

Not to mention base closures under Clinton, and still in truth, he still ran a deficit, despite the claims by the LSM.

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 29, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Sorry, nope, lol.  I'll be doggoned.

Yep, been that way since the day I created the forum.