Author Topic: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats  (Read 1614 times)


Offline Bronx

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2012, 06:01:43 PM »
I'll wait for more info than this, something doesn't smell right.

Alrighty then. Ask and you shall receive. What would you say if I told you Paul Ryan the "RINO"....

Voted for Bush's federal expansion agenda 94% of the time

Voted for massive Bush Medicare expansion

Voted for federal intrusion into public education via No Child Left Behind

Voted for TARP bailouts

Voted for auto bailouts

Voted for the 2008 stimulus package

Voted for the $192B 2009 stimulus package

If you took Paul Ryan's name away from all these votes you would think it was a democrap or a "RINO" voting. But instead my friend it was Paul Ryan.

I couldn't understand why Mitt pick him as VP. Although I voted for them it just took the wind out of my sail.

Paul Ryan is a "RINO" my friend no two ways about it.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2012, 06:28:51 PM »
Alrighty then. Ask and you shall receive. What would you say if I told you Paul Ryan the "RINO"....

Voted for Bush's federal expansion agenda 94% of the time

Voted for massive Bush Medicare expansion

Voted for federal intrusion into public education via No Child Left Behind

Voted for TARP bailouts

Voted for auto bailouts

Voted for the 2008 stimulus package

Voted for the $192B 2009 stimulus package

If you took Paul Ryan's name away from all these votes you would think it was a democrap or a "RINO" voting. But instead my friend it was Paul Ryan.

I couldn't understand why Mitt pick him as VP. Although I voted for them it just took the wind out of my sail.

Paul Ryan is a "RINO" my friend no two ways about it.

I wasn't talking about his record, I'm talking about blaming him for his role in ousting Conservatives from committe.
Boehnor is solely responsible for that move, regardless of what is being said.

Is Ryan perfect? Hell no, but if he can make a difference working within enemy ranks, then so be it.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2012, 06:39:30 PM »
I wasn't talking about his record, I'm talking about blaming him for his role in ousting Conservatives from committe.
Boehnor is solely responsible for that move, regardless of what is being said.

Is Ryan perfect? Hell no, but if he can make a difference working within enemy ranks, then so be it.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2012, 07:44:27 PM »
That's a great page!

Heritage is awesome.
I trust them more than any organization out there for the raw truth.
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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2012, 08:00:01 PM »
I trust them more than any organization out there for the raw truth.

I haven't seen any agenda on their part, besides adhering to the constitution. Good people.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2012, 11:46:25 PM »
A LOT of people were taken in by that.

I like Paul Ryan, but...

That is kind of like saying, "Well, everybody else was jumping off the bridge, so I did too!"


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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2012, 04:44:55 AM »
I like Paul Ryan, but...

That is kind of like saying, "Well, everybody else was jumping off the bridge, so I did too!"

I think it's worth noting, that everything that Bronx pointed out were votes under Bush. In order to call Ryan a RINO, we'd have to see the votes in context. I'm not saying they're good votes, but hindsight is 20/20/.

Did Ryan vote along with other republicans on these votes, or did he break away and go with democrats?

The Bush administration completely blew it on the runaway spending, but in Ryan's position at the time, there's a certain amount of going with the flow that is expected. It would have been pointless for him to have been the only guy fighting the Bush policies.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2012, 12:13:02 PM »
I think it's worth noting, that everything that Bronx pointed out were votes under Bush. In order to call Ryan a RINO, we'd have to see the votes in context. I'm not saying they're good votes, but hindsight is 20/20/.

Did Ryan vote along with other republicans on these votes, or did he break away and go with democrats?

The Bush administration completely blew it on the runaway spending, but in Ryan's position at the time, there's a certain amount of going with the flow that is expected. It would have been pointless for him to have been the only guy fighting the Bush policies.

That is one of the main reason I will never vote for another Bush again - not even for effing Dog Catcher!
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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2012, 02:09:00 PM »
That is one of the main reason I will never vote for another Bush again - not even for effing Dog Catcher!

There's no question, that Bush set the table for both the constitutional abuses and the spending that we are seeing today.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2012, 02:41:07 PM »
There's no question, that Bush set the table for both the constitutional abuses and the spending that we are seeing today.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2012, 03:40:09 PM »
With as little respect as possible...BS!

I guess we have a difference of opinion.

The patriot act. The failed no child left behind. The formation of the DHS and the TSA.........................

The out of control SPENDING.

Seen the DHS website lately? Think they're after terrorists?

Maybe a little, but a new priority is right wing extremist groups, (tea party types), and people that call themselves patriots.

Want a link?

Yes. Bush set the table, and Obama has been able to grab the baton and run it faster than anyone in history.

I like Bush. He made some major screw ups though.


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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2012, 04:39:45 PM »
Most Democrats already thought he was one of them...


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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2012, 03:56:01 AM »
I guess we have a difference of opinion.

The patriot act. The failed no child left behind. The formation of the DHS and the TSA.........................

The out of control SPENDING.

Seen the DHS website lately? Think they're after terrorists?

Maybe a little, but a new priority is right wing extremist groups, (tea party types), and people that call themselves patriots.

Want a link?

Yes. Bush set the table, and Obama has been able to grab the baton and run it faster than anyone in history.

I like Bush. He made some major screw ups though.


That was my feeling. I agreed with MOST of what he did at the time, but others warned that while you may trust Bush not to abuse these powers, ANOTHER president will come along whom you will not be able to trust with these powers. How prophetic they were!  And the Libtards who complained the most about Bush, are perfectly happy with Obama's clear abuse of power.

BTW would Crist even be a "conservative" Democrat?  I have no idea what his real views are, or even if he has any.

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Re: Ex-Fla. Gov. Crist tweets he’s joining Democrats
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 04:38:35 AM »
That was my feeling. I agreed with MOST of what he did at the time, but others warned that while you may trust Bush not to abuse these powers, ANOTHER president will come along whom you will not be able to trust with these powers. How prophetic they were!  And the Libtards who complained the most about Bush, are perfectly happy with Obama's clear abuse of power.

BTW would Crist even be a "conservative" Democrat?  I have no idea what his real views are, or even if he has any.


Hindsight's 20/20.

Those 19 terrorists did more damage to our country than they'll ever know. Not only did they get our government to circumvent the constitution; they got the US citizens to go along with it.
Combine that with the fact that Clinton failed to take any meaningful action after the first attack, that 911 resulted from an utter failure on the part of our intelligence community, (considering that the terrorists were all flying giant red flags), and our politically correct refusal to profile people of middle east decent.........................and here we are.

http://www.dhs.gov/state-and-major-urban-area-fusion-centers

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Unprecedented data collection on every US citizen. Privacy no longer exists, and it will never return. :sad:

 

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