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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: TboneAgain on September 14, 2017, 12:44:29 PM

Title: Ever-so-enlightened Canadians, our guiding lamp?
Post by: TboneAgain on September 14, 2017, 12:44:29 PM
I'm not all that familiar with Canada in general, although I've been there (once) and didn't really care for it much. I know they don't have anything like our First Amendment, a fact that has given people like Mark Steyn and Ann Coulter heartburn from time to time. I like Rush -- the band, not the radio guy. Anne Murray was OK. Peter Jennings was a dick. Alan Thicke seemed like a nice guy.

But this story from the Toronto Sun (http://www.torontosun.com/2017/09/13/canada-now-investigates-climate-denial) is disturbing. It's bad enough here when politicians overstep and threaten what they call "climate deniers." This story shows folks literally and actually calling upon the power of the federal government (Canada's) to prosecute and imprison people who express opinions about climate change that they don't agree with.

A brief sample....

QuoteCanada's Competition Bureau, an arm's length agency funded by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government to the tune of almost $50 million annually, investigated three organizations accused of denying mainstream climate science for over a year, following a complaint from an environmental group.

The complaint was filed by Ecojustice on behalf of six "prominent" Canadians, including former Ontario NDP leader and UN ambassador Stephen Lewis.

It accused three groups, Friends of Science, the International Climate Science Coalition, and the Heartland Institute of making false and misleading claims about climate change, including that the sun is the main driver of climate change, not carbon dioxide, and that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.

When it launched its complaint in December, 2015, Ecojustice told the National Observer it would press the Commissioner of Competition to refer the matter to the Attorney-General of Canada for "criminal charges against the denier groups".

It seems to me that "denier groups" (whatever that means) should have equal opportunity to counter-sue or even proactively sue organizations that seek to stop their free speech and the expression of their opinions. Perhaps that's what needs to start happening. Perhaps that's how some of the darker corners of the climate scam will see the light of day.
Title: Re: Ever-so-enlightened Canadians, our guiding lamp?
Post by: Solar on September 14, 2017, 01:11:06 PM
According to Canada's Constitution, you have a Right to disagree, where it gets sticky, is when it's considered abusive language.
Problem is, the statute covering "Abusive Speech" is vague as Hell and is left to the courts to define the term on a case by case issue.

Snowflakes consider disagreement of their ideology as abusive speech, so this will be an interesting case.

A note to the Snowflake warmers out there? GFYS, you whiny little bastards! Take that shit to court! You can't silence Americans where dissemination of the truth is concernbed.
Title: Re: Ever-so-enlightened Canadians, our guiding lamp?
Post by: walkstall on September 14, 2017, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: TboneAgain on September 14, 2017, 12:44:29 PM
I'm not all that familiar with Canada in general, although I've been there (once) and didn't really care for it much. I know they don't have anything like our First Amendment, a fact that has given people like Mark Steyn and Ann Coulter heartburn from time to time. I like Rush -- the band, not the radio guy. Anne Murray was OK. Peter Jennings was a dick. Alan Thicke seemed like a nice guy.

But this story from the Toronto Sun (http://www.torontosun.com/2017/09/13/canada-now-investigates-climate-denial) is disturbing. It's bad enough here when politicians overstep and threaten what they call "climate deniers." This story shows folks literally and actually calling upon the power of the federal government (Canada's) to prosecute and imprison people who express opinions about climate change that they don't agree with.

A brief sample....

It seems to me that "denier groups" (whatever that means) should have equal opportunity to counter-sue or even proactively sue organizations that seek to stop their free speech and the expression of their opinions. Perhaps that's what needs to start happening. Perhaps that's how some of the darker corners of the climate scam will see the light of day.


One can only hope this will open Pandora's box on the climate scam for the people of Canada and rest of the world.  My understanding there are some very good scientist that's are not on the government payroll. 
Title: Re: Ever-so-enlightened Canadians, our guiding lamp?
Post by: taxed on September 14, 2017, 03:01:52 PM
This is so surreal.  When you can go to jail for calling a scam a scam, you really are controlled.  These are the same people, however, that like their 3rd world health care system.
Title: Re: Ever-so-enlightened Canadians, our guiding lamp?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on September 14, 2017, 06:17:01 PM
Canada has criminalized thought. They're becoming fascists.
Title: Re: Ever-so-enlightened Canadians, our guiding lamp?
Post by: TboneAgain on September 14, 2017, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: taxed on September 14, 2017, 03:01:52 PM
This is so surreal.  When you can go to jail for calling a scam a scam, you really are controlled.  These are the same people, however, that like their 3rd world health care system.

Is it really third-world when the good stuff is just a passport scan and a short drive away?