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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 06:03:57 AM »
Government employees should never be included in any jobs report, they are not real jobs, they are a net drain on the economy.
Hell, prisoners add more to the economy than that of a Govt employee, at least when a prisoner makes something, it has some value and something is returned to the taxpayer.

Govt employees are the exact opposite, they produce absolutely nothing and Husein has added over 100 per day since taking office.
Now why would that number be included? :rolleyes:
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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 06:25:30 AM »
We're all government employees now!

As long as the government can take, at the point of the gun, any part of our pay, it can take all of our pay.

It is no longer our money. It is all the government's money. They just decide what part of it they decided to let us keep.

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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 03:12:42 PM »
We're all government employees now!

As long as the government can take, at the point of the gun, any part of our pay, it can take all of our pay.

It is no longer our money. It is all the government's money. They just decide what part of it they decided to let us keep.

My advise to you sir, don't inherit anything.....

They want to raise the inheritance tax.

Also you better live to collect social security. I know a guy who paid into it all his life and then died a few days after he got his first check....his widow had to send it back...thats like a 100% tax on your inheritance.

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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 05:37:24 PM »
My advise to you sir, don't inherit anything.....

They want to raise the inheritance tax.

Also you better live to collect social security. I know a guy who paid into it all his life and then died a few days after he got his first check....his widow had to send it back...thats like a 100% tax on your inheritance.

Billy

Pssst!

Don't tell anyone, but that is the whole idea behind Social Security! It was originally set up so that the benefits would payable at an age that was older than that average life expectancy at the time! What screwed things up is that people, despite smoking, and trans-fats, and processed foods, and fast food resturants and 32 oz sodas, started to live longer!

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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 06:46:00 PM »
Pssst!

Don't tell anyone, but that is the whole idea behind Social Security! It was originally set up so that the benefits would payable at an age that was older than that average life expectancy at the time! What screwed things up is that people, despite smoking, and trans-fats, and processed foods, and fast food resturants and 32 oz sodas, started to live longer!

Pssst!
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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 07:17:08 PM »
Pssst!
The evolution of evidence medicine, along with new medical technology
has done more for mankinds average life expectance.

I'm not debating that. My point is that Social Security was designed in such a way that it was never intended that the majority of people would be able to collect their "retirement" - or would only collect a few years worth at best.

Yes, it is now and always was a Ponzi scheme.
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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2012, 03:55:11 AM »
I'm not debating that. My point is that Social Security was designed in such a way that it was never intended that the majority of people would be able to collect their "retirement" - or would only collect a few years worth at best.

Yes, it is now and always was a Ponzi scheme.
Indeed. And the politicians were so stupid, they didn't have enough sense to keep raising the retirement age to keep pace with longer life spans. And they could have justified it on exactly those grounds - that they were keep pace with longer life spans. There would have been even more money for them to steal as everyone would have been paying in longer!
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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 04:33:50 AM »
Government employees should never be included in any jobs report, they are not real jobs, they are a net drain on the economy.
Hell, prisoners add more to the economy than that of a Govt employee, at least when a prisoner makes something, it has some value and something is returned to the taxpayer.

Govt employees are the exact opposite, they produce absolutely nothing and Husein has added over 100 per day since taking office.
Now why would that number be included? :rolleyes:

Solar, have to take exception to this.  I am a government employee in the Department of the Navy and a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer.  My arm of the government takes positive action to keep your freedom intact.  My arm of the government and my shipmates who are sailing in harms way have guaranteed your freedom for 237 years.  Shitcan the IRS, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the EPA and all of the other non-constitutional government entities, but it would be in your best interest to keep the Department of Defense functioning.

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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 05:57:01 AM »
Solar, have to take exception to this.  I am a government employee in the Department of the Navy and a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer.  My arm of the government takes positive action to keep your freedom intact.  My arm of the government and my shipmates who are sailing in harms way have guaranteed your freedom for 237 years.  Shitcan the IRS, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the EPA and all of the other non-constitutional government entities, but it would be in your best interest to keep the Department of Defense functioning.
The Military is the ONLY exception!
But had you been paying attention, you'd have noticed that every Conservative on this board knows that it's also the only job Govt is tasked to do under the Constitution, all the rest is pure fluff.

If I had my way, every service members vote would carry even more clout and would have a special armed courier with a full security detail, tasked to see that every battalions vote total made it to a polling place.

FWIW, I've never thought of Military personnel as Govt employees, because it is a duty and honor to serve, as well as the law to register in the event of an national emergency.

I know of no other profession where the govt, (meaning the people of this country) demands an individual participate.
Being an obligation, makes it the exception to the rule.
Does that clear it up?
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Re: Economists skeptical on Unemployment Numbers
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2012, 06:08:31 PM »
Solar, have to take exception to this.  I am a government employee in the Department of the Navy and a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer.  My arm of the government takes positive action to keep your freedom intact.  My arm of the government and my shipmates who are sailing in harms way have guaranteed your freedom for 237 years.  Shitcan the IRS, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the EPA and all of the other non-constitutional government entities, but it would be in your best interest to keep the Department of Defense functioning.


Welcome aboard Chief and thank you for your service...speaking as an ex army grunt (I know, I know) technically the military isn't the Government as they don't Govern anything (thank God)

I think most conservatives agree that the military is necessary to defend our nation and keep it free.

Defence is an enumerated Power....maintaining the  EPA isn't.
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