Ebola Thread, Or My Favorite, "Obola" Thread

[Solar]

I started this thread so any new stories coming out can be posted here, because I bellieve this is going to get far worse than it is now.
If it does, I'l start a secondary forum dedicated to new stories.

Growing concerns over 'in the air' transmission of Ebola


Canadian scientists have shown that the deadliest form of the ebola virus could be transmitted by air between species.

In experiments, they demonstrated that the virus was transmitted from pigs to monkeys without any direct contact between them.

The researchers say they believe that limited airborne transmission might be contributing to the spread of the disease in some parts of Africa.

They are concerned that pigs might be a natural host for the lethal infection.
Ebola viruses cause fatal haemorrhagic fevers in humans and many other species of non human primates.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423

[DaisyJane]

They don't really know what they are doing.  They aren't telling the truth about anything.

They aren't making any sense.

Don't buy any racial distraction. 

The only thing that makes any sense is to isolate it where it is.  There is NO NEED to infect groups that didn't have it before.  But, that's what it will come to due to their incompetence and political agendas.

More WILL DIE even with the BEST care of the USA.  It's the nature of the virus. 

It is NOT like HIV in that it is easier to get.  Does not require intimate sexual contact like HIV.  Don't buy any arguments like that.

DaisyJane   

[TboneAgain]

They don't really know what they are doing.  They aren't telling the truth about anything.

They aren't making any sense.

Don't buy any racial distraction. 

The only thing that makes any sense is to isolate it where it is.  There is NO NEED to infect groups that didn't have it before.  But, that's what it will come to due to their incompetence and political agendas.

More WILL DIE even with the BEST care of the USA.  It's the nature of the virus. 

It is NOT like HIV in that it is easier to get.  Does not require intimate sexual contact like HIV.  Don't buy any arguments like that.

DaisyJane   

I read somewhere that Ebola is roughly 90% fatal, even with proper treatment, and there is no cure or vaccine. Does that sound right?

[walkstall]

I read somewhere that Ebola is roughly 90% fatal, even with proper treatment, and there is no cure or vaccine. Does that sound right?

snip~
The average EVD case fatality rate is around 50%. Case fatality rates have varied from 25% to 90% in past outbreaks. 

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/


Table: Chronology of previous Ebola virus disease outbreaks
 

2012 Democratic Republic of Congo Bundibugyo   51% 
2012 Uganda Sudan 57% 
2012 Uganda Sudan  71% 
2011 Uganda Sudan 100% 
2008 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  44% 
2007 Uganda Bundibugyo  25% 
2007 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  71% 
2005 Congo Zaire  83% 
2004 Sudan Sudan  41% 
2003 (Nov-Dec) Congo Zaire  83% 
2003 (Jan-Apr) Congo Zaire  90% 
2001-2002 Congo Zaire 75% 
2001-2002 Gabon Zaire  82% 
2000 Uganda Sudan  53% 
1996 South Africa (ex-Gabon) Zaire  100% 
1996 (Jul-Dec) Gabon Zaire  75% 
1996 (Jan-Apr) Gabon Zaire  68% 
1995 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  81% 
1994 Cote d'Ivoire Taï Forest    0% 
1994 Gabon Zaire  60% 
1979 Sudan Sudan  65% 
1977 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  100% 
1976 Sudan Sudan 53% 
1976 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  88% 

[DaisyJane]

As the first US Ebola patient proved, even with American care, it can be fatal.

Oh, we'll hear that they didn't treat him soon enough, and if they had, he would have lived.  I say - not necessarily. 

Talk about a distraction, that will be one.  I guess we have to have MORE Ebola patients and deaths to believe it.  I already believe it. 

I have heard the fatality rate of about 60%. 

It is supreme arrogance to believe we can "handle" it.  There's so much we still do NOT know yet.  That is not even taking into account mutations of the virus. 

Sending US troops to be exposed is awful too.  I am SORRY for those places heavily affected by this.  But, it doesn't help to bring it here. 

At some point, when it may be too late, they may impose a travel ban due to public pressure.  It should be in place NOW.

DaisyJane     

[Solar]

snip~
The average EVD case fatality rate is around 50%. Case fatality rates have varied from 25% to 90% in past outbreaks. 

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/


Table: Chronology of previous Ebola virus disease outbreaks
 

2012 Democratic Republic of Congo Bundibugyo   51% 
2012 Uganda Sudan 57% 
2012 Uganda Sudan  71% 
2011 Uganda Sudan 100% 
2008 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  44% 
2007 Uganda Bundibugyo  25% 
2007 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  71% 
2005 Congo Zaire  83% 
2004 Sudan Sudan  41% 
2003 (Nov-Dec) Congo Zaire  83% 
2003 (Jan-Apr) Congo Zaire  90% 
2001-2002 Congo Zaire 75% 
2001-2002 Gabon Zaire  82% 
2000 Uganda Sudan  53% 
1996 South Africa (ex-Gabon) Zaire  100% 
1996 (Jul-Dec) Gabon Zaire  75% 
1996 (Jan-Apr) Gabon Zaire  68% 
1995 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  81% 
1994 Cote d'Ivoire Taï Forest    0% 
1994 Gabon Zaire  60% 
1979 Sudan Sudan  65% 
1977 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  100% 
1976 Sudan Sudan 53% 
1976 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire  88%

A map to accompany that list.


http://www.businessinsider.com/map-of-ebola-outbreak-in-africa-2014-8

[Cryptic Bert]

There was a press conference yesterday about this and the media isn't buying it.

Hot Mic Catches Reporters Talking of Ebola Doom

[walkstall]

There was a press conference yesterday about this and the media isn't buying it.

Hot Mic Catches Reporters Talking of Ebola Doom

And they think the Hot Mic is stupid.  Will they have a job after this. 

[Bronx]

Hey Mr.failed president Obama remember dopgging President Bush on the avian flu. Guess what your turn now Mr.ebola president Obama.

Senator Obama rips Bush for being unprepared for avian flu epidemic

[Bronx]

[MACMan]

(CNSNews.com) - Both Homeland Security Secretary Secretary Jeh Johnson and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden said on Wednesday that 150 people a day arrive in the United States from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea, the three West African countries that have been hit  by the Ebola virus

I'm sure it's "only" 150, not that the CDC and DHS would ever lie.(sarc) 

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/cdc-150-people-enter-us-day-ebola-stricken-countries-or-4500-month

[Cryptic Bert]

CDC Director: We Have To Work Now So Ebola 'Is Not The World's Next AIDS'

Very comforting.

[DaisyJane]

I'm sure it's "only" 150, not that the CDC and DHS would ever lie.(sarc) 

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/cdc-150-people-enter-us-day-ebola-stricken-countries-or-4500-month

And THAT is 150 per day TOO MANY. 

That doesn't make us feel safer at all.  The disease WILL kill Americans at some point if they don't stop the air travel.

And, how about the gazillions of dollars spent on it?????  JUST STOP IT.

Since I am a nurse, I would be expected to take care of these people.  That risks MORE American lives.  I never really worried about catching stuff before this one.  Patients are routinely isolated for infectious disease.  It's the first thing you do when you have proof of it.  Except.........Ebola?

We going to make this disease political, like HIV was made?

DaisyJane     

[MACMan]

And THAT is 150 per day TOO MANY. 

That doesn't make us feel safer at all.  The disease WILL kill Americans at some point if they don't stop the air travel.

And, how about the gazillions of dollars spent on it?????  JUST STOP IT.

Since I am a nurse, I would be expected to take care of these people.  That risks MORE American lives.  I never really worried about catching stuff before this one.  Patients are routinely isolated for infectious disease.  It's the first thing you do when you have proof of it.  Except.........Ebola?

We going to make this disease political, like HIV was made?

DaisyJane     

The disease has already been made political, Daisy, just like HIV was.

[quiller]

MONROVIA, Liberia (AP) -- Six U.S. military planes arrived in the Ebola hot zone Thursday with more Marines, as West Africa's leaders pleaded for the world's help in dealing with a crisis that one called "a tragedy unforeseen in modern times."

"Our people are dying," Sierra Leone President Ernest Bai Koroma lamented by videoconference at a World Bank meeting in Washington. He said other countries are not responding fast enough while children are orphaned and infected doctors and nurses are lost to the disease.

Alpha Conde of Guinea said the region's countries are in "a very fragile situation."

Ebola is "an international threat and deserves an international response," he said, speaking through a translator as he sought money, medicine, equipment and training for health care workers.

Tom Frieden, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said he was reminded of the start of the AIDS epidemic.

"We have to work now so this is not the next AIDS," Frieden said.

The fleet of planes that landed outside the Liberian capital of Monrovia consisted of four MV-22 Ospreys and two KC-130s. The 100 additional Marines bring to just over 300 the total number of American troops in the country, said Maj. Gen. Darryl A. Williams, the commander leading the U.S. response.

http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20141010p2g00m0in048000c.html

Meanwhile, the U.S. airlines are bringing us even more ebola carriers. Ooops, can't blame Israel. They were soooooooo dangerous we cut them off right away, and left all the other doors open instead.

Next flight out, drop Obama into that zone. It's his October Surprise.