Ebola Thread, Or My Favorite, "Obola" Thread

[Solar]

Who knows.  If that's what's stopping them from putting restrictions on travel out of those countries.  I seriously doubt what little they make on travel, we would miss. 

Maybe the CDC could pay for it out of their budget instead of all the stupid studies they fund like "why do lesbians get fat", or "do fruit flies prefer younger mates".

I remember that BS. The arrogance of the left never ends.

[walkstall]

Who knows.  If that's what's stopping them from putting restrictions on travel out of those countries.  I seriously doubt what little they make on travel, we would miss. 

Maybe the CDC could pay for it out of their budget instead of all the stupid studies they fund like "why do lesbians get fat", or "do fruit flies prefer younger mates".

Well!
You can put the answer in the pit.        

[Solar]

Do they really think we're this gullible?

Alarm after vomiting passenger dies on flight from Nigeria to JFK

A plane from Nigeria landed at JFK Airport Thursday with a male passenger aboard who had died during the flight after a fit of vomiting — and CDC officials conducted a "cursory" exam before announcing there was no Ebola and turning the corpse over to Port Authority cops to remove, Rep. Peter King said on Thursday.
The congressman was so alarmed by the incident — and by what he and employees see as troubling Ebola vulnerabilities at JFK — that he fired off a letter to the federal Department of Homeland Security demanding more training and tougher protocols for handling possible cases there.
The unnamed, 63-year-old passenger had boarded an Arik Air plane out of Lagos, Nigeria, on Wednesday night, a federal law enforcement source said.
http://nypost.com/2014/10/16/alarm-after-vomiting-passenger-dies-on-flight-from-nigeria-to-jfk/

[MACMan]

Do they really think we're this gullible?

Alarm after vomiting passenger dies on flight from Nigeria to JFK

A plane from Nigeria landed at JFK Airport Thursday with a male passenger aboard who had died during the flight after a fit of vomiting — and CDC officials conducted a "cursory" exam before announcing there was no Ebola and turning the corpse over to Port Authority cops to remove, Rep. Peter King said on Thursday.
The congressman was so alarmed by the incident — and by what he and employees see as troubling Ebola vulnerabilities at JFK — that he fired off a letter to the federal Department of Homeland Security demanding more training and tougher protocols for handling possible cases there.
The unnamed, 63-year-old passenger had boarded an Arik Air plane out of Lagos, Nigeria, on Wednesday night, a federal law enforcement source said.
http://nypost.com/2014/10/16/alarm-after-vomiting-passenger-dies-on-flight-from-nigeria-to-jfk/

Well, it could have been that airplane food! Just like in the movie 'Airplane!', maybe he had the fish! (sarc) 

[DaisyJane]

I find it absolutely ludicrous to expect airport employees to screen passengers.

And to expect some passengers to tell the truth.

And to not realize that people will suppress elevated temperatures by taking medicine to lower it.

And to expect that it is absolutely a fact that the only time it can be spread is during symptoms. 

And rather to do the simplest thing (restrict travel for anyone from those countries), they have to dance around why it's not a good idea.

DaisyJane     

[DaisyJane]

Has anyone considered the logistics in caring for patients with Ebola?  Another reason to keep this out of the country.  Not to mention ENORMOUS costs in health care.

Since I have cared for patients in isolation, I can see what a nightmare this entails.  In my experience, no one wants to do the isolation duty!  Scary things aside, it's a real pain.  Care givers should be offered EXTRA pay for this in these situations, in my opinion.

The caregivers have to wear hospital issued clothing, like scrubs.  They would have to remove them at the end of their exposure time, and should probably SHOWER before leaving the hospital.  Remember, there are others besides nurses who may have to go in the room.  You have doctors, perhaps lab to draw blood (although sometimes nurses can do this), x ray personnel (think chest x rays in particular), etc.  You need housekeeping staff to be trained and have to be exposed.  How about laundry?

It is hard to wear masks, facial covering, isolation gowns, etc.  They are hot and cumbersome to wear.  You have to re glove and gown if you leave the room (think bathroom or meals, if you have an appetite!).  You get sweaty and can be lightheaded wearing all that stuff.  Since these patients vomit and have profuse diarrhea, think of cleaning that and disposing of the waste.  If really sick, the patient will probably have a urinary catheter to measure output, that has to be emptied.  If needed, food has to get to the patient.

The rooms should have special air flow exchange.  No doubt I will think of other things later, but these are my quick thoughts on patients in isolation.  And this one requires the HIGHEST level of maintaining the isolation.  Everyone is human, and a split second break in anything can be a disaster (think of 2 affected nurses).

Are they going to ask nurses and other health care workers to quarantine themselves after exposure to these patients?  Often patients in isolation are more a threat to other sick patients rather than risk to the staff (who are presumably reasonably healthy).  Not this Ebola!

Any leftists or media want to deal with this?

If you like your Ebola, you can keep your Ebola.

DaisyJane     

[Solar]

If I were to tell you that the Military had a machine that can take a saliva or blood sample to detect Obola, would you believe it?
What if this machine could identify Obola within an hour, and what if I were to say it had a 90% certainty rate, would you insist the govt release this technology to the private sector?
Of course you would.

But what if I were to tell you it's already in the hands of the private sector, but the govt wasn't allowing it's use to screen patients because of PC reasons, would you be surprised?

Well, considering it's a lib/Marxist administration, you'd probably say par for the course, and you'd be Right.

The military is using an Ebola screening machine that could have diagnosed the Ebola cases in Texas far faster, but government guidelines prevent hospitals from using it to actually screen for Ebola.

It's a toaster-sized box called Film Array, produced by a company called BioFire, a subsidiary of bioMérieux and it's capable of detecting Ebola with a high degree of confidence — in under an hour.

Incredibly, it was present at Dallas Presbyterian Hospital when Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan walked through the door, complaining of fever and he had just come from Liberia. Duncan was sent home, but even still, FDA guidelines prohibited the hospital from using the machine to screen for Ebola.

The Film Array retails for about $39,000 per unit and can screen for the genetic markers of a wide number of respiratory, gastro-intestinal and other illness, including Ebola, but only with the right "kit" in place. Current FDA guidelines would not have allowed Dallas Presbyterian Hospital to get that kit. That's despite the fact that it can provide results with higher than 90 percent certainty and it's one of the machines that the military is currently using to screen for Ebola in Africa.

The Film Array performs polymerase chain reaction tests to determine the presence of Ebola on the basis of genetic markers. "It will take the Ebola cells, break them open, expose the [ribonucleic acid] in the Ebola and match those with a target we've identified," company representatives told Defense One. The machine can work off of blood or even saliva samples.

BioFire Diagnostics, a Utah-based firm that produces disease detection technology, confirmed that the Dallas Presbyterian Hospital did in fact have one of the machines (possibly for as long as two years) sitting on the shelf when Duncan came in.
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2014/10/dallas-hospital-had-ebola-screening-machine-military-using-africa/96713/?oref=d-river

[AndyJackson]

If I were to tell you that the Military had a machine that can take a saliva or blood sample to detect Obola, would you believe it?
What if this machine could identify Obola within an hour, and what if I were to say it had a 90% certainty rate, would you insist the govt release this technology to the private sector?
Of course you would.

But what if I were to tell you it's already in the hands of the private sector, but the govt wasn't allowing it's use to screen patients because of PC reasons, would you be surprised?

Well, considering it's a lib/Marxist administration, you'd probably say par for the course, and you'd be Right.

Obama will get away with playing possum on the infected, pandemic-inducing-infected......until we fight back.

Over & out...end....done.....etc.

I heard this scenario earlier today.  Who TF is standing against the fraud designed to let the infected into America  ?

Now...don't...blast.....me.  Something else please.

[Dori]

Has anyone considered the logistics in caring for patients with Ebola?  Another reason to keep this out of the country.  Not to mention ENORMOUS costs in health care.

It's not just the costs in caring for obola patients, it also the costs on hospitals having no one to care for.

Ebola Scare Turns Dallas Hospital Into a 'Ghost Town'

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-scare-turns-dallas-hospital-ghost-town/story?id=26276610

[MACMan]

It's not just the costs in caring for obola patients, it also the costs on hospitals having no one to care for.

Ebola Scare Turns Dallas Hospital Into a 'Ghost Town'

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-scare-turns-dallas-hospital-ghost-town/story?id=26276610

If a person with Ebola would walk in to any Urgent Care facility or hospital E.R., the same thing would happen to those facilities when word got out.

[MACMan]

Get a load of this. I wonder if any other people infected with Ebola have been brought in on the "hush-hush".

[quoteAn American doctor infected with Ebola in Sierra Leone last month has gone quietly home after spending six weeks at Emory University's special biocontainment unit, the hospital said Monday. The doctor, who has asked not to be named for now, was working for the World Health Organization when he was infected][/quote]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/another-u-s-ebola-patient-recovers-emory-n230031

[Mountainshield]

If I were to tell you that the Military had a machine that can take a saliva or blood sample to detect Obola, would you believe it?
What if this machine could identify Obola within an hour, and what if I were to say it had a 90% certainty rate, would you insist the govt release this technology to the private sector?
Of course you would.

But what if I were to tell you it's already in the hands of the private sector, but the govt wasn't allowing it's use to screen patients because of PC reasons, would you be surprised?

Well, considering it's a lib/Marxist administration, you'd probably say par for the course, and you'd be Right.

Government regulations, it's disgusting. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, as PC has made the whole question of trying to stop the disease a theme where everything is racial oppression of Africans unless we give them everything we can and import as many poor victims of this disease as we can. They are flying in ebola patients into Norway as well with great fanfare, I suspect the reasons are economical. Like Daisyjane said the cost of caring for a Ebola patient is enormous, just the fanfare from the airport the hospital for one person required 3 ambulances and full police escort, all this translates into money, money for working overtime, money compensation for increased risk and money needed for further funding to combat this increased threat.

I have had to change my conclusion on Ebola, it seems to be a much greater threat than I originally thought. But any money being funneled to combat it will only be spent on waste and corruption. I think we just have to wait it out, take precautions on an individual level as the Government is either too incompetent to prevent it, don't want to prevent it out of delirious political correctness insanity or actually wants it in order to increase spending.

[Solar]

Government regulations, it's disgusting. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, as PC has made the whole question of trying to stop the disease a theme where everything is racial oppression of Africans unless we give them everything we can and import as many poor victims of this disease as we can. They are flying in ebola patients into Norway as well with great fanfare, I suspect the reasons are economical. Like Daisyjane said the cost of caring for a Ebola patient is enormous, just the fanfare from the airport the hospital for one person required 3 ambulances and full police escort, all this translates into money, money for working overtime, money compensation for increased risk and money needed for further funding to combat this increased threat.

I have had to change my conclusion on Ebola, it seems to be a much greater threat than I originally thought. But any money being funneled to combat it will only be spent on waste and corruption. I think we just have to wait it out, take precautions on an individual level as the Government is either too incompetent to prevent it, don't want to prevent it out of delirious political correctness insanity or actually wants it in order to increase spending.

Yep, Govt is now the enemy, and that includes both party's.
The American public's safety is at the mercy of a Marxist plot to flood the Nation with culture shattering 3rd world poverty.
To admit we need to close the borders to the threat of Ebola, is to admit that letting in poverty is detrimental to the overall health of the Nation as a whole.

So what does the Marxist do? He Sacrifices the people for his greater goal of Marxism.
And we have idiot libs to thank for this!

[DaisyJane]

Did you hear there are a couple of people confined in a Chicago hospital now?

Why it's a good idea to restrict to 5 airports?????????????

All air travel needs to be suspended from affected countries.  It's the ONLY thing that makes any SENSE.

DaisyJane     

[walkstall]

Did you hear there are a couple of people confined in a Chicago hospital now?

Why it's a good idea to restrict to 5 airports?????????????

All air travel needs to be suspended from affected countries.  It's the ONLY thing that makes any SENSE.

DaisyJane