Does the Republican Party Have a Future Without Cruz?

Started by Ms.Independence, July 28, 2016, 06:12:39 AM

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Ms.Independence

This is a great opinion piece!  I believe that the Republican party died the night that Trump was nominated as the presidential candidate. IMHO Trump's purpose in running for president was twofold; deny a Constitutional conservative the nomination and further splinter the Republican party.  He has accomplished that objective.  We came very close to getting our country back under Cruz and I think that is what we all need to remember and hold on to.

Does the Republican Party have a future without Ted Cruz?

...With the close of the Republican convention where they picked a nominee that holds few conservative values, it is the Reagan and Lincoln wing of the party that is being snubbed through an unholy alliance between the country clubbers and the C4L types. Yes, while country clubbers proudly stood for Gerald Ford and Ron Paul trashed Ronald Reagan, it's certainly not Trump that has been put in the position that Reagan had been; it's Cruz, from my wing.

So let's get this straight. Senator Ted Cruz, R-Texas  is either the future of the Republican Party, or there is no Republican Party in the future. No, it's not just one man. Cruz isn't the only one from my wing, but he represents, almost perfectly, the values and policies that formed the party to begin with and the founder's vision of America. Those who attack Cruz attack the founding of the nation and the ideals that make America special, and in doing so, move us toward a repeat of the centuries-old curse of government as our master, instead of the people being the master of our government. The voice of history must be heard...

..But more importantly, Americans must realize that the only way to save America is by saving it themselves, understanding that freedom and liberty does not come from government, but from the rights bestowed on us by God. When the desire for freedom and liberty outweighs the false sense of hope some politician will fix things for you, then and only then can we restore America.


- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/does-the-republican-party-have-a-future-without-ted-cruz#sthash.hznlCyU0.dpuf
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Quote from: je_freedom on July 28, 2016, 09:12:57 AM
Maybe Ted is this generation's Barry Goldwater.


God help us if we are in the wilderness for the length of time between Barry losing and Reagan winning..(16 years?) We and the republic will die in that wilderness

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Folks, do not forget about all the gains TEA has made since 2010. These people are moving through the ranks. My congressman, Mark Meadows, is an example of some of the good conservatives who are being elected. He is not presidential material, but he is already respected in just his second term in the house. They are out there we just have to keep identifying them and helping them move up.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on July 28, 2016, 01:14:55 PM
Folks, do not forget about all the gains TEA has made since 2010. These people are moving through the ranks. My congressman, Mark Meadows, is an example of some of the good conservatives who are being elected. He is not presidential material, but he is already respected in just his second term in the house. They are out there we just have to keep identifying them and helping them move up.
conservatives seem to do better on a local and state level, why do people voting turn into dumb asses during the national election?

Solar

Quote from: s3779m on July 28, 2016, 02:59:18 PM
conservatives seem to do better on a local and state level, why do people voting turn into dumb asses during the national election?
They didn't, they were already stupid, they are called libs. :biggrin:

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Quote from: Ms.Independence on July 28, 2016, 06:12:39 AM
This is a great opinion piece!  I believe that the Republican party died the night that Trump was nominated as the presidential candidate. IMHO Trump's purpose in running for president was twofold; deny a Constitutional conservative the nomination and further splinter the Republican party.  He has accomplished that objective.  We came very close to getting our country back under Cruz and I think that is what we all need to remember and hold on to.

Does the Republican Party have a future without Ted Cruz?

...With the close of the Republican convention where they picked a nominee that holds few conservative values, it is the Reagan and Lincoln wing of the party that is being snubbed through an unholy alliance between the country clubbers and the C4L types. Yes, while country clubbers proudly stood for Gerald Ford and Ron Paul trashed Ronald Reagan, it's certainly not Trump that has been put in the position that Reagan had been; it's Cruz, from my wing.

So let's get this straight. Senator Ted Cruz, R-Texas  is either the future of the Republican Party, or there is no Republican Party in the future. No, it's not just one man. Cruz isn't the only one from my wing, but he represents, almost perfectly, the values and policies that formed the party to begin with and the founder's vision of America. Those who attack Cruz attack the founding of the nation and the ideals that make America special, and in doing so, move us toward a repeat of the centuries-old curse of government as our master, instead of the people being the master of our government. The voice of history must be heard...

..But more importantly, Americans must realize that the only way to save America is by saving it themselves, understanding that freedom and liberty does not come from government, but from the rights bestowed on us by God. When the desire for freedom and liberty outweighs the false sense of hope some politician will fix things for you, then and only then can we restore America.


- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/does-the-republican-party-have-a-future-without-ted-cruz#sthash.hznlCyU0.dpuf

It would be amazing if Ted started his own party.

Yes, I am serious and it would be great.

Too late for 2016, but not too late for 2020.

If he ever needs signatures, I'm IN.

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Solar

Quote from: SalemCat on July 28, 2016, 03:11:05 PM
It would be amazing if Ted started his own party.

Yes, I am serious and it would be great.

Too late for 2016, but not too late for 2020.

If he ever needs signatures, I'm IN.

Have I convinced anyone not all TrumpSwabs suck ?

(probably not)
You're so believable, Troll.
Quote from: SalemCat on July 26, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
Nah.

Writing in CRUZ ?

Nah.
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Quote from: Solar on July 28, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
You're so believable, Troll.

Sure.

Don't bother to go back months and months to my posts where I have consistently praised Cruz and his policies.

Just harp on my recent post where I point out, realistically, that writing in his name at this point is a wasted effort.

I'm not concerned. Senator Cruz will be supported in the future by the same folk, like me, that have always admired him.

And will forgive him.

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Quote from: SalemCat on July 28, 2016, 07:25:05 PM
Sure.

Don't bother to go back months and months to my posts where I have consistently praised Cruz and his policies.

Just harp on my recent post where I point out, realistically, that writing in his name at this point is a wasted effort.

I'm not concerned. Senator Cruz will be supported in the future by the same folk, like me, that have always admired him.

And will forgive him.

while you are right that a write in for cruz will likely not lead to him winning...BUT
I have to believe that we are supposed to vote for people not vote against them...so  I could think that a vote for trump just to keep hilary out is a wasted vote for humanity...ie that vote sells out america  the Constitution and what it stands for...

and for myself ...
I WILL NOT SELL THAT OUT!!!


Solar

Quote from: SalemCat on July 28, 2016, 07:25:05 PM
Sure.

Don't bother to go back months and months to my posts where I have consistently praised Cruz and his policies.

Just harp on my recent post where I point out, realistically, that writing in his name at this point is a wasted effort.

I'm not concerned. Senator Cruz will be supported in the future by the same folk, like me, that have always admired him.

And will forgive him.
Fool! And a vote for a Lib is somehow better, why?
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Quote from: Solar on July 28, 2016, 08:39:51 PM
Fool! And a vote for a Lib is somehow better, why?

The Wall.

The 2A.

If Trump does not deliver, I will despise him.

But I will give him a chance.

Solar

Quote from: SalemCat on July 28, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
The Wall.

The 2A.

If Trump does not deliver, I will despise him.

But I will give him a chance.
You do know he already flipped on those issues long ago, right?
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Quote from: SalemCat on July 28, 2016, 07:25:05 PM
Sure.

Don't bother to go back months and months to my posts where I have consistently praised Cruz and his policies.

Just harp on my recent post where I point out, realistically, that writing in his name at this point is a wasted effort.

I'm not concerned. Senator Cruz will be supported in the future by the same folk, like me, that have always admired him.

And will forgive him.

Forgive him for what....?
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