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Title: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: taxed on August 29, 2017, 05:53:30 PM
This is so true...

https://conservatism20.wordpress.com/2017/08/23/does-bernie-sanders-realize-his-ideas-are-501-years-old/

QuoteThis is a man who railed against his political opponents and talked about having fresh ideas. We could allow that perhaps he's had a change of heart and has given up on the ancient ideas of collectivism. Never the less, it's most likely he's lost touch with history and reality. Not only did he lose badly to Comrade Clinton, but he's been flogging the same old ideas for years now.

He should realize that his ideology was based on ancient ideas expressed 501 years ago in Sir Thomas More's book Utopia [Published in 1516].
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 29, 2017, 06:50:12 PM
No he doesn't. And that is because he has never read a book in his life. He doesn't know who More or Engels are. He probably heard of Marx but I doubt he ever read him. Sanders is simply a lazy man who is envious of people who have more than him and thinks the government should make his life easy.
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Ms.Independence on August 29, 2017, 07:15:09 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:  Does 'crazy' Bernie realize anything?????
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: taxed on August 29, 2017, 07:19:19 PM
And oldie but goodie:

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fconservativehardliner.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fcruz_bernie_collegeyears-min.jpg&hash=aa962c1ac25c1c2e7a25408af986e91e2075e6f4)
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 29, 2017, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on August 29, 2017, 07:15:09 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:  Does 'crazy' Bernie realize anything?????

Yes, actually. Being in congress is how to make big money while doing absolutely nothing. In other words he realized how to live off the taxpayers.
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: taxed on August 29, 2017, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 29, 2017, 07:28:21 PM
Yes, actually. Being in congress is how to make big money while doing absolutely nothing. In other words he realized how to live off the taxpayers.

He's working hard for the unfortunate from his dock at his lake house....
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Ms.Independence on August 30, 2017, 06:09:04 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 29, 2017, 07:19:19 PM
And oldie but goodie:

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fconservativehardliner.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fcruz_bernie_collegeyears-min.jpg&hash=aa962c1ac25c1c2e7a25408af986e91e2075e6f4)

Thanks for sharing, I hadn't seen this before.  Have to admit ... I like Ted in glasses. :smile:
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2017, 06:12:07 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 29, 2017, 07:19:19 PM
And oldie but goodie:

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fconservativehardliner.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fcruz_bernie_collegeyears-min.jpg&hash=aa962c1ac25c1c2e7a25408af986e91e2075e6f4)
This should have been locked solid on the Index page, like forever. :cool:
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Mountainshield on August 30, 2017, 06:50:41 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2017, 06:12:07 AM
This should have been locked solid on the Index page, like forever. :cool:

Does the conservative movement need Ted Cruz more than ever? not only because he is actually brilliant but sadly also out of his ethnicity? To the leftists he is a "white latino" and with white identity alt-righter's starting to take over the right wing narrative with the help of the MSM I don't see anyone fighting against it. Even Thomas Sowell is retired, and deservedly so but he is needed now more than ever.

As for OP it is very ironic that a piece of satire is today an demonic homicidal ideology that consumes over half of mankind. When reading Utopia you have to be insane to think "yeah that sounds great".
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2017, 07:23:13 AM
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 30, 2017, 06:50:41 AM
Does the conservative movement need Ted Cruz more than ever? not only because he is actually brilliant but sadly also out of his ethnicity? To the leftists he is a "white latino" and with white identity alt-righter's starting to take over the right wing narrative with the help of the MSM I don't see anyone fighting against it. Even Thomas Sowell is retired, and deservedly so but he is needed now more than ever.

As for OP it is very ironic that a piece of satire is today an demonic homicidal ideology that consumes over half of mankind. When reading Utopia you have to be insane to think "yeah that sounds great".
Alt-right is a leftist created term in an attempt to tag Libs that abandoned the Dim party, when in fact, these people are Alt-Left, many went in varying directions, some to the GOP, while others went to the LIB-ertarian movement, but a large contingency joined the Neo NAZI, New Socialists movement, a natural migration for angry leftists with no knowledge of history.

The leftist media ran with the new nomenclature in an attempt to get out ahead of the true nature of their migration, but the truth is, they're just another hate group rooted on the left.
Their one problem is ignoring the fact that NAZI = Nationalist Socialist, where socialism is in no way linkable to the Right, so it's been an impossible feat to make the term, stick, that is unless you're a braindead lib, which is a descriptor for most of their base today which is now irrelevant since the Dim party imploded.
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Mountainshield on August 30, 2017, 07:30:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2017, 07:23:13 AM
Alt-right is a leftist created term in an attempt to tag Libs that abandoned the Dim party, when in fact, these people are Alt-Left, many went in varying directions, some to the GOP, while others went to the LIB-ertarian movement, but a large contingency joined the Neo NAZI, New Socialists movement, a natural migration for angry leftists with no knowledge of history.

The leftist media ran with the new nomenclature in an attempt to get out ahead of the true nature of their migration, but the truth is, they're just another hate group rooted on the left.
Their one problem is ignoring the fact that NAZI = Nationalist Socialist, where socialism is in no way linkable to the Right, so it's been an impossible feat to make the term, stick, that is unless you're a braindead lib, which is a descriptor for most of their base today which is now irrelevant since the Dim party imploded.

That is interesting, and I have heard of studies showing that radical totalitarians have no problem shifting from the left wing socialist extreme, to the so called "right wing" extreme of fascism.

After all, most if not all of the members of the both the Black Shirts in Italy and SA members under Ernst Röhm were former Communists/Socialists.

Hmm seems that the Norwegian Wiki on Ernst Röhm has a funny little side note that is conveniently removed/ignored on the english wiki;

QuoteThe SA was by the people called "steaks", as they are brown on the outside and red on the inside
- Source: Guido Knopp: SS, forlaget Historie & Kultur
Title: Re: Does Bernie Sanders realize his ideas are 501 years old?
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2017, 08:01:46 AM
Quote from: Mountainshield on August 30, 2017, 07:30:49 AM
That is interesting, and I have heard of studies showing that radical totalitarians have no problem shifting from the left wing socialist extreme, to the so called "right wing" extreme of fascism.

After all, most if not all of the members of the both the Black Shirts in Italy and SA members under Ernst Röhm were former Communists/Socialists.

Hmm seems that the Norwegian Wiki on Ernst Röhm has a funny little side note that is conveniently removed/ignored on the english wiki;
- Source: Guido Knopp: SS, forlaget Historie & Kultur
This is absolutely true in Europe, where Benito founded the Fascist party, however here in the US, Fascism is solidly rooted in the left end of the political spectrum, in that there is no history of dictatorships on the Right, only the left.

In the US, the far left end of the spectrum shares anarchy with Communism, while the Extreme Right end holds our Founders image of a Republican form of Govt, beyond the right, is nothing, it was where the spectrum begins.
Too many in the US believe the spectrum starts in the middle, but truth is, it starts with a Bill of Rights and a Constitution, and from there, moves left until it's final demise into anarchy, followed by a total dictatorship as in Communism.