I quit decades ago myself, but only because the oldest conservative paper, no, strike that, the oldest paper West of the Rockies went under.
The one Samuel Clemons used to editor for
The only thing left was a rag by the Mc Clatchy family called the Sacto. Bee.
The thought that newspaper delivery will cease in many cities around the nation is disquieting, but circulation is plunging.
The result is that reductions of newsroom staffs, reporters and editors, have been surging, with jobs eliminated in 2011 reaching nearly 30% more than the prior year. There have been five years of revenue declines. One blogger, Erica Smith, who follows the trends, estimated that 3,775+ newspaper jobs were eliminated in 2011.
According to an annual survey by the American Society of News Editors, nearly one in three newsroom jobs have been eliminated since the number of journalists peaked at 56,900 in 1989. By the end of 2010, there were only 41,600 ink-stained wretches left on the industry's payrolls.
In recent weeks The Wall Street Journal reported "Gannett's Profit Drops 33%" and "Thompson Reuters Posts Loss."
Putting aside why advertisers are seeking greener pastures and platforms to sell their goods, let me suggest that an underlying and largely unexplored reason for the declines being felt throughout traditional print journalism outlets is that people simply do not want to pay for lies every day between the horoscope, the crossword puzzle, and the obituary page.
Lies? The print media and its broadcast counterpart fell totally in love with Barack Obama in 2008 and we ended up with a completely unknown and largely unvetted former Senator who hadn't even served a full term there. People remember stuff like that.
They remember years of unmitigated lies about "global warming" when there wasn't any threat at all.
They remember being told that coffee was bad for you followed by stories that coffee is good for you.
There are many factors at play in the decline of newspapers, but I think one factor is the general disenchantment with the product—the news—that too often tends to turn out to be false.
© Alan Caruba, 2012
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I take the Wall Street Journal. But I will never in any way knowingly give anything towards a leftist rag. And since most papers are leftist rags that makes my choice pretty clear.
My local rag (which I wrote for, for 4.5 years) brought out an electronic edition which is so badly-organized and so badly-edited that it becomes high comedy just to view its home page.
One feature (the single biggest reason people buy that paper) is the district and circuit court news, and police and sheriff reports. The on-line version carries neither.
The second-biggest reason people buy the paper is the advertising. The outfit that owns the paper has raised ad rates twice in two years, trying to milk the fiscal cow. Now fewer ads are in the pulp edition (and almost no ads in the on-line version).
They also printed ONLY that Obama had offered a "compromise" on mandated coverage of birth control, without mentioning the Catholic Church self-insures and the mandate would still force a church to go against its religious beliefs.
Gotta love that selective myopia. The fewer Georgia pines getting crushed into newsprint, the higher per-roll costs for the papers they do print. The longer they wait to embrace technology that readers actually WANT and will actually USE, the higher that paper cost alone will get.
Their answer? Reduce page widths. Then when people stopped contributing, the paper adopted a new type font with a taller character x-height, meaning fewer words per page on a paper that steadily shrank to about 2/3rds what it was when I worked there.
I think the small town paper is alive and well, only for the reasons you mentioned, very local news.
But the behemoths of the past reflect the life cycle of the dinosaur, they tout the lie of AGW, only to be struck down like the Mastodon in a deep freeze
Define behemoth when the newspaper is also the only daily in that county (a very common occurrence here in Michigan). By legal definition it is the county's newspaper of record, for legal advertising purposes.
Consider that income in this age of tax sales and other county advertising. It's strong incentive to rock no boats with the local government (in my county's case, totally corrupted Democrats and a gaggle of gutless RINOs).
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 08:50:59 AM
Define behemoth when the newspaper is also the only daily in that county (a very common occurrence here in Michigan). By legal definition it is the county's newspaper of record, for legal advertising purposes.
Consider that income in this age of tax sales and other county advertising. It's strong incentive to rock no boats with the local government (in my county's case, totally corrupted Democrats and a gaggle of gutless RINOs).
Yeah, I guess in your case it is almost apples to oranges to my County.
The Mountain Democrat in my area is a small local paper by comparison more than a century old.
The next paper would be the Sacto. bee, which has virtually no circulation in my neck of the woods, were a Conservative County.
So what you are saying is
"Even though they "produce" a newspaper, they can't sell it??"
SO, a producer "produced" something and they can't sell it??
I thought the first rule of commerce was that IF you produce it, it will sell!
Could that be because there is NO DEMAND for the newspaper?
Thanks to Solar for an example of how the economy works.
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 20, 2012, 09:06:49 AM
So what you are saying is
"Even though they "produce" a newspaper, they can't sell it??"
SO, a producer "produced" something and they can't sell it??
I thought the first rule of commerce was that IF you produce it, it will sell!
Could that be because there is NO DEMAND for the newspaper?
Thanks to Solar for an example of how the economy works.
Does everything go over your head?
If you'll take notice where I've stated that small town papers are still alive, its the big ones that print lib lies as news that are dropping and near death.
Loot at the biggest one, NY Times circulation and staff cuts if you want proof.
You do realize you are a poster child for lib posters and that's not a compliment.
Even at reduced subscription rates, the paper in my county wants 75 cents a copy, even after hiking ad prices. At the rate they are going, I expect to see them selling $2 sheets of Stick-Up Notes.
The paper has seen five or six corporate owners since the 1970s. Each held on to the paper only long enough to milk its tax advantages as a corporate loss-leader, and in my case I worked for two-fisted corporate alcoholics who were both ultimately fired for their bad management.
It's more than just supply and demand.
But Solar, You and your low IQ buds have spent 7 pages telling me that IF a producer MAKES something it will sell.
Thats the law of economics, produce first, Demand will grow from that, PERIOD.
I say that if there is no demand Nothing will sell.
Why are the newspapers going out of business??
Tell me solar, why are they going out of business??
Lack of DEMAND for newspapers!
simple enough even for a tea party member.
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 20, 2012, 09:23:46 AM
But Solar, You and your low IQ buds have spent 7 pages telling me that IF a producer MAKES something it will sell.
No we didn't, no one said that.
Show me where we said anything will sell if a producer produces it.
QuoteThats the law of economics, produce first, Demand will grow from that, PERIOD.
I say that if there is no demand Nothing will sell.
Why are the newspapers going out of business??
Tell me solar, why are they going out of business??
Lack of DEMAND for newspapers!
simple enough even for a tea party member.
If you read the OP, he explained it quite well.
Liberal lies don't sell!
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 20, 2012, 09:06:49 AM
So what you are saying is
"Even though they "produce" a newspaper, they can't sell it??"
SO, a producer "produced" something and they can't sell it??
I thought the first rule of commerce was that IF you produce it, it will sell!
Could that be because there is NO DEMAND for the newspaper?
Thanks to Solar for an example of how the economy works.
They did produce something that was wanted - at the time. Trends come and go. Take this argument back to the thread it was started in and stop hijacking other threads. Toy
Nope...don't take the paper and haven't for years....including the once a week free one.
Lefties are the ones who think they can centrally plan demand. Chevy volt. Home ownership for unqualified borrowers. Solar panels for home use. Ethanol. These are all leftist attempts to create demand where it does not exist.
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 20, 2012, 09:23:46 AM
But Solar, You and your low IQ buds have spent 7 pages telling me that IF a producer MAKES something it will sell.
Thats the law of economics, produce first, Demand will grow from that, PERIOD.
I say that if there is no demand Nothing will sell.
Why are the newspapers going out of business??
Tell me solar, why are they going out of business??
Lack of DEMAND for newspapers!
simple enough even for a tea party member.
No one said any such thing. In order to buy something, it must exist first. I'm sorry that goes over your head.
Quote from: taxed on February 20, 2012, 12:54:23 PM
No one said any such thing. In order to buy something, it must exist first. I'm sorry that goes over your head.
No one said all things produced will sell.
You are getting desperate.
Quote from: taxed on February 20, 2012, 12:54:23 PM
No one said any such thing. In order to buy something, it must exist first. I'm sorry that goes over your head.
Comprehension seems to be a problem amongst libs.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 20, 2012, 01:01:59 PM
No one said all things produced will sell.
You are getting desperate.
I have been known to beg...
I still take the paper, though it did irritate me to no end when the elite state run media tried to cover up those beejays Clinton got in the White House and Hillary's allegedly nefarious ties to the Whitewater development. And they never printed ONE SINGLE word about allegations cncerning Obama's birth place. If it were not for Faux News, Ann Coulter, and others of their ilk I don't know where we could get accurate, unbiased information. Thank goodness for level headed, clear thinking, objective folks like those that populate the CPF!
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:13:26 PM
I still take the paper, though it did irritate me to no end when the elite state run media tried to cover up those beejays Clinton got in the White House and Hillary's allegedly nefarious ties to the Whitewater development. And they never printed ONE SINGLE word about allegations cncerning Obama's birth place. If it were not for Faux News, Ann Coulter, and others of their ilk I don't know where we could get accurate, unbiased information. Thank goodness for level headed, clear thinking, objective folks like those that populate the CPF!
Didn't we have this discussion about you falsely saying these folks have gone after Hussein's birth certificate? Are you going to correct it?
My local daily paper carries, of course, national news, too. Here are some of the headlines from today's lies:
Iran halts oil exports to UK and France
Protests in Senegal - fifth day of violence
44 die in Mexican prison riot
FDA to review inhalable caffeine
Elizabeth Smart marries in Hawaii
Battles brew over photo ID voter laws - can prevent fraud or foment discrimination
Bad times slow US population growth - recession still affecting births and immigration
Santorm defends views on prenatal testing
Seoul begins miitary drills despite North Korea threat
Israel urged not to attack Iran
3 skiers killed in Washington avalanche; 4th saved
I mean, what do they do? Hire people to sit in windowless rooms and make this stuff up?
The reason I take the paper is it gives me pleasure to watch Faux News when they debunk all the stuff that was in the paper that day. Never fails. LIES! ALL LIES! Bought and paid for by rat bastard commies!
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:25:11 PM
My local daily paper carries, of course, national news, too. Here are some of the headlines from today's lies:
Iran halts oil exports to UK and France
Protests in Senegal - fifth day of violence
44 die in Mexican prison riot
FDA to review inhalable caffeine
Elizabeth Smart marries in Hawaii
Battles brew over photo ID voter laws - can prevent fraud or foment discrimination
Bad times slow US population growth - recession still affecting births and immigration
Santorm defends views on prenatal testing
Seoul begins miitary drills despite North Korea threat
Israel urged not to attack Iran
3 skiers killed in Washington avalanche; 4th saved
I mean, what do they do? Hire people to sit in windowless rooms and make this stuff up?
The reason I take the paper is it gives me pleasure to watch Faux News when they debunk all the stuff that was in the paper that day. Never fails. LIES! ALL LIES! Bought and paid for by rat bastard commies!
I dumped it all, and get all my news from scouring the web.
That way I have the ability to discern the truth, and not be spoon fed lies.
Quote from: Solar on February 20, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
I dumped it all, and get all my news from scouring the web.
That way I have the ability to discern the truth, and not be spoon fed lies.
Yep. If it's on the web, it's a fact. YOu can make book on that.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:25:11 PM
My local daily paper carries, of course, national news, too. Here are some of the headlines from today's lies:
Iran halts oil exports to UK and France
Protests in Senegal - fifth day of violence
44 die in Mexican prison riot
FDA to review inhalable caffeine
Elizabeth Smart marries in Hawaii
Battles brew over photo ID voter laws - can prevent fraud or foment discrimination
Bad times slow US population growth - recession still affecting births and immigration
Santorm defends views on prenatal testing
Seoul begins miitary drills despite North Korea threat
Israel urged not to attack Iran
3 skiers killed in Washington avalanche; 4th saved
I mean, what do they do? Hire people to sit in windowless rooms and make this stuff up?
The reason I take the paper is it gives me pleasure to watch Faux News when they debunk all the stuff that was in the paper that day. Never fails. LIES! ALL LIES! Bought and paid for by rat bastard commies!
I got those in 3 seconds on my news feed on my phone...
Quote from: taxed on February 20, 2012, 02:31:03 PM
I got those in 3 seconds on my news feed on my phone...
So they lie, too?
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
So they lie, too?
Did your local paper go to Iran, for example, to get the story on the oil?
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 20, 2012, 09:23:46 AM
But Solar, You and your low IQ buds have spent 7 pages telling me that IF a producer MAKES something it will sell.
Thats the law of economics, produce first, Demand will grow from that, PERIOD.
I say that if there is no demand Nothing will sell.
Why are the newspapers going out of business??
Tell me solar, why are they going out of business??
Lack of DEMAND for newspapers!
simple enough even for a tea party member.
They are going under because no one in their right mind wants to read a bunch of communist Liberal BullShit EXCEPT FOR YOU
Quote from: taxed on February 20, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
Did your local paper go to Iran, for example, to get the story on the oil?
no, they made it up. Everytbing in the newspaper is a lie. You know that.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:38:28 PM
no, they made it up. Everytbing in the newspaper is a lie. You know that.
Post some of the op-eds in your paper -- not the AP stuff everyone pulls from...
and it's not just the newspapers. I know for a fact that all those allegedly embedded reporters from NBC, ABC, CBS, and the other state run, elite media "news" outlets were actually filmed in front of a green screen. Then, actual footage pirated from Fox was displayed on the green background, thus giving the illusion that reporters were actually in the war zone! I found it very troubling, especially since it happened on Bush's watch.
Quote from: taxed on February 20, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
Post some of the op-eds in your paper -- not the AP stuff everyone pulls from...
Op eds are not news. They're "opinion" and "editorials." If the news is nothing but lies, why bother with opeds from a bunch of rat bastard commie liberals?
Actually, what Elmer is saying is, the AP fakes their news and the newspaper industry sustains the lies by publishing them. The AP and most urban newspapers are ALSO unionized. Aren't union lies so much better than any other?
One thing that REALLY irritates me about our local, government controlled, rat bastard liberal newspaper is the fact that they carry Ann Coulter and Thomas Sowell every week! Not only that, they routinely print letters from foaming at the mouth conservatards that would make you guys look like limp wristed dimmocraps. Like that's going to fool us! We know what they're up to! Trying to poison our minds with outright falshoods, that's what! Well, we're too smart for that! Yessirree! We'll get our facts by "scouring the web" where truth reigns eternal!
Where's my tri-corner hat and don't-tread-on-me-flag! I feel like going for a march!
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
Actually, what Elmer is saying is, the AP fakes their news and the newspaper industry sustains the lies by publishing them. The AP and most urban newspapers are ALSO unionized. Aren't union lies so much better than any other?
Quiller knows whereof he speaks. He was once one of them himself. But then he saw the light. Thank God for that.
Elmer, you sound like a man afraid his sock-puppet is about to get IP-banned.
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 02:50:50 PM
Elmer, you sound like a man afraid his sock-puppet is about to get IP-banned.
He only has one IP. He used to be doughboy, but came back as Elmer.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:50:29 PM
Quiller knows whereof he speaks. He was once one of them himself. But then he saw the light. Thank God for that.
I have been many things, Elmer. The writer's life is one of constant change and exposure. In greater Ann Arbor, Detroit, and Toledo, I get all that and more, among college professors, lawyers, Jeep workers, and more. My views are constantly being challenged by what such people tell me.
So if you think you're fooling anyone with pathetic reverse-humor plagiarism of my phrasing, note this well, Elmer. I can bring it around hard, aiming straight at you, and I know when I'm done who will still be here and who will not.
That's why I'm hated at LNF. I fought by their rules and kicked asses as small as yours without a second thought.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
One thing that REALLY irritates me about our local, government controlled, rat bastard liberal newspaper is the fact that they carry Ann Coulter and Thomas Sowell every week! Not only that, they routinely print letters from foaming at the mouth conservatards that would make you guys look like limp wristed dimmocraps. Like that's going to fool us! We know what they're up to! Trying to poison our minds with outright falshoods, that's what! Well, we're too smart for that! Yessirree! We'll get our facts by "scouring the web" where truth reigns eternal!
Where's my tri-corner hat and don't-tread-on-me-flag! I feel like going for a march!
Hmmmm... I may have to subscribe...
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:13:26 PM
I still take the paper, though it did irritate me to no end when the elite state run media tried to cover up those beejays Clinton got in the White House and Hillary's allegedly nefarious ties to the Whitewater development. And they never printed ONE SINGLE word about allegations cncerning Obama's birth place. If it were not for Faux News, Ann Coulter, and others of their ilk I don't know where we could get accurate, unbiased information. Thank goodness for level headed, clear thinking, objective folks like those that populate the CPF!
Snark....
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 02:55:54 PM
I have been many things, Elmer. The writer's life is one of constant change and exposure. In greater Ann Arbor, Detroit, and Toledo, I get all that and more, among college professors, lawyers, Jeep workers, and more. My views are constantly being challenged by what such people tell me.
So if you think you're fooling anyone with pathetic reverse-humor plagiarism of my phrasing, note this well, Elmer. I can bring it around hard, aiming straight at you, and I know when I'm done who will still be here and who will not.
That's why I'm hated at LNF. I fought by their rules and kicked asses as small as yours without a second thought.
Knock yourself out.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 03:00:28 PM
Knock yourself out.
You are your own worst enemy here. I rather think it's you who knocks yourself out. Infantile plagiarism, for example. Third-rate intellect compounded by a liberal's hive mentality.
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 03:03:09 PM
You are your own worst enemy here. I rather think it's you who knocks yourself out. Infantile plagiarism, for example. Third-rate intellect compounded by a liberal's hive mentality.
Oh? Well take a look at post number 7 on the just a little reminder thread, mr. smarty pants!
What---no link?
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 03:05:02 PM
What---no link?
Surely a board certified genius like you can find it!
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
Surely a board certified genius like you can find it!
#9 and #10 weren't bad, either.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
Surely a board certified genius like you can find it!
Unless you are prepared to show where I or any other CPF member accused me of such a vile thing, I insist that you retract your allegation forthwith.
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 03:06:41 PM
#9 and #10 weren't bad, either.
9 was very good. 10 was, on a scale of 1 to 10, maybe a 3. 4 max.
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2012, 03:08:07 PM
Unless you are prepared to show where I or any other CPF member accused me of such a vile thing, I insist that you retract your allegation forthwith.
Okay. I retract. But I would submit that, from the quality of your posts, you're definitely board eligible.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
Okay. I retract. But I would submit that, from the quality of your posts, you're definitely board eligible.
I'm not the smartest guy here by any measure. And I never ever forget it.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
Yep. If it's on the web, it's a fact. YOu can make book on that.
If you aren't smart enough to see through the agenda, then please, stick with FOX and your paper, the left needs more mind numbed droolers.
Me, I like to get the entire story, even from foreign sources.
Quote from: Solar on February 20, 2012, 03:51:44 PM
If you aren't smart enough to see through the agenda, then please, stick with FOX and your paper, the left needs more mind numbed droolers.
Me, I like to get the entire story, even from foreign sources.
I have not look at a paper or TV for 9 years now. I can get all the Info for the net, and not listen to all the (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi70.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi104%2Ftoddownz%2FSmileys%2Fbull.gif&hash=54de329a504eea5819358efa6bf9a7fabd1fb081)
Quote from: walkstall on February 20, 2012, 04:53:43 PM
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That's the thing, everyone has an agenda of some kind.
TV is the worst, they try and generate an emotional reaction.
Quote from: walkstall on February 20, 2012, 04:53:43 PM
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Believe me, it shows. Sarah Palin probably hasn't done either, either.
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 05:42:31 PM
Believe me, it shows. Sarah Palin probably hasn't done either, either.
She's accomplished more than you ever will...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 20, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
She's accomplished more than you ever will...
... by college...
Quote from: taxed on February 20, 2012, 06:03:23 PM
... by college...
It's creepy how he fixates on her...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 20, 2012, 06:03:53 PM
It's creepy how he fixates on her...
His need for attention, like a 6 year old girl with no father, and his obsession with Palin and Coulter, is indeed creepy...
Quote from: taxed on February 20, 2012, 06:05:13 PM
His need for attention, like a 6 year old girl with no father, and his obsession with Palin and Coulter, is indeed creepy...
And he's well like on the forum? What forum would that be? www.Iannoypeople.net? (http://www.iannoypeople.net?)
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 20, 2012, 05:42:31 PM
Believe me, it shows. Sarah Palin probably hasn't done either, either.
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why can't you. And you call yourself informed.
investors business daily...any thing else isn;t fit to line a parrot cage.
Billy