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Offline Yawn

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Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« on: December 12, 2012, 06:25:11 PM »
Since this seems to be THE topic libertarians and "social liberals masquerading as Conservatives, want to use to destroy the Republican Party and drive true Conservatives from the Party, I think it's important that the rest of us understand WHERE this "acceptance" (really, they will not be satisfied until YOU join their army in the war on Christianity) will lead in another generation.

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Two Christians in Australia have been indicted for criticizing Islam, and another for criticizing Zionism. A filmmaker has been threatened with arrest for using the word “homosexual” rather than “gay.” Now a German priest faces jail time for publicly criticizing abortionists, and in Holland, “fornicators” and “adulterers” are protected classes and cannot be criticized.

All courtesy of the concept of federal “hate crimes” legislation, which unless defeated soon could be mandatory in the United States, warns a rising chorus of critics.
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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 06:37:18 PM »
No true Libertarian would accept any form of Hate Crime Legislation. There are, however, a number of Leftists and Anarchists posing as Libertarians whose sole purpose is to foment dissension among conservatives.

For those who don't know, the Libertarian Party was formed in opposition to the liberal agenda of people like Richard Nixon. 

In 1863 the Emancipation Proclamation abolished slavery.
In 1913 the 16th Amendment to the Constitution reinstated it.

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2012, 06:57:01 PM »
Yes. There are those claiming "Libertarianism" that give true Libertarians a bad name.  I consider the Founders the true and original Libertarians.  When judging ideas I use my understanding of the Founding Fathers as my anchor.  On matters of morality, "Jesus" (actually Yeshua) is the foundational anchor to judge good and evil.

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 07:03:40 PM »
If you see someone working on a Sunday, do you kill them Yawn ?

Or if someone wears a cross stitch piece of clothing on a Sunday, do you also kill them ?
"Christians are expected to pacify angry Muslims, Communist brats and homosexual radicals and Mexicans who convinced themselves that they own our land. That tells me the Christians are the better people among brutal and violent beasts."  Yawn - 15th May, 2013

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 07:12:45 PM »
Yes. There are those claiming "Libertarianism" that give true Libertarians a bad name.  I consider the Founders the true and original Libertarians.  When judging ideas I use my understanding of the Founding Fathers as my anchor.  On matters of morality, "Jesus" (actually Yeshua) is the foundational anchor to judge good and evil.

And you know what? As a Libertarian and an Atheist, I don't have a problem with that.

There are two kinds of Atheists. One is what I call an "Evangelical Atheist" - the one who is absolutely convinced that God does not exist  and will not rest until he convinces everyone he can that God does not exist.

Then there is my kind of Atheist. The kind who just has not seen proof that God exists, but does not have a problem with people who think differently. Some people call this an agnostic, but that really is not the correct term. An Agnostic is just an Atheist who doesn't have the courage to call himself that.

While I have said elsewhere that "good" and "evil" are somewhat subjective terms and really can't be used as absolutes, the concepts, however, can be fairly objective - if not carried to the extreme.

The concept of what is good can be found in many place, including the Bible and the Torah and in the teaching of just about every major religion there is. To ignore such concepts, simply because they are "religious" teachings is silly.

The trick is separating the "wheat" from the "chaff" so to speak.
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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 07:55:24 PM »
Like I said before, what gays want are a privledged status with special rights and benefits....like "dissing" them is an offense.

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 08:25:10 PM »
While I agree with the original post, Billy you count gay marriage as a " privilege status".
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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2012, 08:43:48 PM »
While I agree with the original post, Billy you count gay marriage as a " privilege status".


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Sigh.....No...(This is another point that went over the point on top of your head I guess).

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2012, 09:02:05 PM »
ohhh so you believe that gays should be allowed to get married ? If that is the case, I'm sorry for claiming your view to be something else.
"Christians are expected to pacify angry Muslims, Communist brats and homosexual radicals and Mexicans who convinced themselves that they own our land. That tells me the Christians are the better people among brutal and violent beasts."  Yawn - 15th May, 2013

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2012, 09:07:46 PM »
ohhh so you believe that gays should be allowed to get married ? If that is the case, I'm sorry for claiming your view to be something else.

Thats not it either but let me try to cut through the fog of Marijuana smoke and clarrify for you.

I don't care if gays get married or not...it's up to the State to pass the law or not.

I think what gays want is "protection" status by the Federal Govt as a "discriminated" against minority.

I'm basing my surmise on these cases where someone is charged with a "hate crime" for calling them a 'Homo" or something.

Evil operates best when it is disguised for what it truly is.

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2012, 09:32:44 PM »
Okay, hate crimes are stupid. Everyone should be treated equal under the law. If I bash a white man it should be no different if I bash a black man or a homosexual man. I think we both agree on that.

Gay marriage is not that though. Gay marriage is just treating everyone the same under the eye of government.

You're assuming there is some gay conspiracy out there to slowly take over. And allowing them to marry is the first step.

Just let them get married. Then we wont have to listen/debate this crap anymore. You and I wont even know anything changed.
"Christians are expected to pacify angry Muslims, Communist brats and homosexual radicals and Mexicans who convinced themselves that they own our land. That tells me the Christians are the better people among brutal and violent beasts."  Yawn - 15th May, 2013

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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2012, 09:58:15 PM »
I don't know the particulars of this bill, but I certainly know that WND is the last source one should trust in actually providing an honest account of it - notice there aren't' actually any details of the legislation at all, just scary quotes from pastors and other random sources that play to the narrative that's generally accepted by conservatives. Gay, liberal conspiracies!! Scary!!

But... the bill could very well be terrible (so many are), so I'll reserve my judgement on it... but we wouldn't know by reading the article.

Also you guys do realize that hate crime legislation (to date) has never actually created new crimes?  In other words, if it wasn't a crime before to preach a fiery sermon about homosexuality, hate crime bills don't change that?   It sounds like many of you don't actually understand what "hate crime" status is - punishment escalation, not the creation of "new crimes".




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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 08:03:32 AM »
If you see someone working on a Sunday, do you kill them Yawn ?

Or if someone wears a cross stitch piece of clothing on a Sunday, do you also kill them ?
Amazing how leftists can never seem to get it through their heads that Christians, are followers of Jesus Christ. As in the New Testament of the Bible. Without fail, whenever they want to badmouth Christian belief, they always seem to pick something out of the Old Testament. I guess they just can't help displaying their ignorance.
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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 08:05:30 AM »
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An Agnostic is just an Atheist who doesn't have the courage to call himself that.
Arrogant. How about an agnostic is someone who prefers not to make up their mind until all the facts are in.
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Re: Diss a Queer, to Jail You'll Appear
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 01:48:41 PM »
Arrogant. How about an agnostic is someone who prefers not to make up their mind until all the facts are in.

A "moderate" middle of the road kind of thing, eh?

There is nothing in the middle of the road except yellow lines and dead animals!  :laugh:
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