Judging by the people I know I feel as if I'm the only Trump supporter out there. All day I read posts on FB talking about Russia and how Trump will be impeached and arrested for Treason and this "is the biggest scandal since Watergate". Why are so many sheep of the media? When ever I present and argument they tell me I'm just using "Alternative facts". (If I have to read the phrase one more time....ugh). It's so disconcerning. The
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 09:37:42 AM
Judging by the people I know I feel as if I'm the only Trump supporter out there. All day I read posts on FB talking about Russia and how Trump will be impeached and arrested for Treason and this "is the biggest scandal since Watergate". Why are so many sheep of the media? When ever I present and argument they tell me I'm just using "Alternative facts". (If I have to read the phrase one more time....ugh). It's so disconcerning. The
They're only parroting what they hear on TV, and they couldn't be more wrong.
I never supported Trump, and had he done what he is accused of, I lead the charge for Impeachment, but the fact is, it was the dim party caught Red handed dealing with the Russians, which is why all the distraction of blame.
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 09:37:42 AM
Judging by the people I know I feel as if I'm the only Trump supporter out there. All day I read posts on FB talking about Russia and how Trump will be impeached and arrested for Treason and this "is the biggest scandal since Watergate". Why are so many sheep of the media? When ever I present and argument they tell me I'm just using "Alternative facts". (If I have to read the phrase one more time....ugh). It's so disconcerning. The
Do they ever say what the grounds for impeachment are?
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 09:37:42 AM
Judging by the people I know I feel as if I'm the only Trump supporter out there. All day I read posts on FB talking about Russia and how Trump will be impeached and arrested for Treason and this "is the biggest scandal since Watergate". Why are so many sheep of the media? When ever I present and argument they tell me I'm just using "Alternative facts". (If I have to read the phrase one more time....ugh). It's so disconcerning. The
Everytime I hear an accusation from the left, I know it's projection - the very stuff they or their associates are themselves guilty of. They traffic in GUILT - as a former liberal myself, it's hard to internally keep suppressing the personal guilt over hypocritical positions you use to justify your own abuses. Seriously, to 'come clean' means embracing personal responsibility - saying, "I am 100% responsible for what I do, good or bad, and will rightly suffer the consequences, good or bad - refusing to blame someone else!"
We all run into plenty of Conservatives - still in "transition" who can't seem to drop the tired old liberal ways, the blame game, but when they do, they see the world as full of opportunity. Funny thing about "predicting Trump's doom" - we already know they'll be disappointed, regardless of any outcome, because they expect him to be tortured publicly, hanged, run though with swords, spat upon, etc. They are as perverse as the Global Warming nutjobs who call for prosecution of "climate deniers".
The same people who demand their 1st amendment right includes destroying property, fly into a rage over anything outside their agenda. Without fail,
Everytime I hear an accusation from the left, I know it's projection - the very stuff they or their associates are themselves guilty of."Oh really...? You sound so well versed in this crime, knowing every detail, it almost sounds like your acquainted with someone who committed it. Sure you're not guilty...?" Turn off the liberal media, you'll sleep better, and remind yourself, Trump is a big boy, he can easily dispatch these stupid claims - they are like child's play to him.
They say he should be impeached because he a liar, corrupt, insane, worker with Russia to win the election and the stories of Flynn and now Manafort. They read from Yahoo, NY Times, Washington Post, Occupy Democrats etc....
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 10:09:21 AM
They say he should be impeached because he a liar, corrupt, insane, worker with Russia to win the election and the stories of Flynn and now Manafort. They read from Yahoo, NY Times, Washington Post, Occupy Democrats etc....
Trump has his issues - sometimes says things that make me cringe. But he is now the President of the United States (POTUS) and we should work with him to accomplish positive things for our nation. He is taking action on a lot of problems from a business perspective to move us in what I think is a good direction, despite the dialogue.
But the labels you identified are just labels - no substance. And it's what the Main Stream Media (MSM) promotes along the lines of resistance to changes and as empty attacks on POTUS. As said above, just turn off the media's generalities and pick any issue or set of issues and dig for some substance behind it to gain a real sense of what is happening.
As supsalemgr said, what are the charges for impeachment - what laws were broken and deserving of impeachment. For most people, the media decides what they will pay attention to and even how they will think. Believe me and as Solar pointed out, if real evidence of a serious charge comes against Trump, the conservatives will work to have the law provide due process. But there is no evidence that has been shown that bears serious attention to making a charge that he broke the law.
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 10:09:21 AM
They say he SHE should be impeached imprisioned because she is a liar, corrupt, insane, worker with Russia to win the election and the stories of Flynn and now Manafort. They read from Yahoo, NY Times, Washington Post, Occupy Democrats etc....
FIFY - like I said, guilty of projection (they accuse us of their crimes).
This is nothing new, they said the same stuff about Ronald Reagan, yet pocketed every cent from his booming economy. Knowing nothing about SR-71 "Blackbird" they claimed Bush flew to Russia, blah, blah - like it was a passenger jet liner...! (it takes 2 people to put on the space suit, just to fly the thing - and they think one could land and refuel in Russia...?)
On the other hand, listen to Neil Gorsuch handling the liberals during questioning - it's actually a bit inspiring!
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 10:09:21 AM
They say he should be impeached because he a liar, corrupt, insane, worker with Russia to win the election and the stories of Flynn and now Manafort. They read from Yahoo, NY Times, Washington Post, Occupy Democrats etc....
Invite them to come and join our forum. I'm very sure if they wanna know the truth we will direct them in that direction.
Quote from: topside on March 22, 2017, 10:32:50 AM
Trump has his issues - sometimes says things that make me cringe. But he is now the President of the United States (POTUS) and we should work with him to accomplish positive things for our nation. He is taking action on a lot of problems from a business perspective to move us in what I think is a good direction, despite the dialogue.
But the labels you identified are just labels - no substance. And it's what the Main Stream Media (MSM) promotes along the lines of resistance to changes and as empty attacks on POTUS. As said above, just turn off the media's generalities and pick any issue or set of issues and dig for some substance behind it to gain a real sense of what is happening.
As supsalemgr said, what are the charges for impeachment - what laws were broken and deserving of impeachment. For most people, the media decides what they will pay attention to and even how they will think. Believe me and as Solar pointed out, if real evidence of a serious charge comes against Trump, the conservatives will work to have the law provide due process. But there is no evidence that has been shown that bears serious attention to making a charge that he broke the law.
I wonder if they think the democrats can impeach him? With a pub house and senate that just a'int gonna happen. Remember how that Clinton impeachment went?
The one thing that makes me laugh at how ridiculous some people are, and also makes me angry is how they compare Trump to Hitler. Do they not know their history? They claim he is anti semetic and if you present the argument that Ivanka and her family are Jewish they ignore it or say it doesn't negate the fact that he is.
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
The one thing that makes me laugh at how ridiculous some people are, and also makes me angry is how they compare Trump to Hitler. Do they not know their history? They claim he is anti semetic and if you present the argument that Ivanka and her family are Jewish they ignore it or say it doesn't negate the fact that he is.
We do not know your age. However, please remember you cannot reason with liberals - ever. They do not live in reality. To live in reality would destroy their entire philosophy.
'You've gotta be real careful around here': Tim Allen says Hollywood is like '1930s Germany' for conservative actors as he appears on Jimmy Kimmel's show
Conservative-leaning actors are made to feel like pariahs by liberal luvvies
The American comedian claimed Republicans were likely to get 'beat up'
He said: 'You get beat up if you don't believe what everybody believes. This is like '30s Germany'
Mr Allen's incendiary remarks come after his public support for Trump in 2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4329902/Hollywood-like-1930s-Germany-conservative-actors.html
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 09:37:42 AM
Judging by the people I know I feel as if I'm the only Trump supporter out there. All day I read posts on FB talking about Russia and how Trump will be impeached and arrested for Treason and this "is the biggest scandal since Watergate". Why are so many sheep of the media? When ever I present and argument they tell me I'm just using "Alternative facts". (If I have to read the phrase one more time....ugh). It's so disconcerning. The
Why are you friends with liberals?
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 10:09:21 AM
They say he should be impeached because he a liar, corrupt, insane, worker with Russia to win the election and the stories of Flynn and now Manafort. They read from Yahoo, NY Times, Washington Post, Occupy Democrats etc....
I didn't vote for Trump, I didn;t vote for Hillary as a matter of fact I didn't vote at all. BUT I have become a Trump supporter when I see the lengths the Marxist party (that is what the "Democrats" truly are) are going to try and undermine our Country and destroy our society.
Trump is proven right time and time again, he was just Proven right again by the announcement of Nunes that shows how Comey just lied. This whole "Russia" thing is a trap that will expose the criminality of the left.
JUst hang on, wait and be patient.
The media are the king of all liars, they are being proven so each day.
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 10:09:21 AM
They say he should be impeached because he a liar, corrupt, insane, worker with Russia to win the election and the stories of Flynn and now Manafort. They read from Yahoo, NY Times, Washington Post, Occupy Democrats etc....
Liar? If that was impeachable how many past president including Obama should have been gone? Corrupt? Do we have any real examples? Insane? By who's standard? Do we have a real example of insanity?
And now the big one! Even if Trump talked directly to Putin what law did he break? Unless they have him conspiring with knowledge that Russia was indeed committing state sponsored crimes against the United States just communicating is not a crime. last I checked we are not at war with Russia and every past president in this and the last century has had some dealings with them! Hillary sure has a past with them as did Obama, Bill Clinton GW Bush, Bush senior and even Ronnie had some type of relationship! The only thing impeachable could be if he directed or asked Russia to hack Hillary's campaign and the DNC! A really long way to go to find evidence of that they still do not have the hard smoking gun evidence Russia as a state was responsible for the hacking! I've yet to see any hard evidence that would last a day in court!
For whatever reason, conservatives (normal people) who choose to indulge in social media get dismayed at the liberal propaganda. That attitude, while contained to just that person, collectively gives life to the lie itself.
Liberals are in the minority. Period. Leaks and document dumps put their corruption on public display. Their policies are rejected over and over. They try to tie Trump as the one colluding with Russia while it was proven that Podesta, for example, had direct ties. At every turn they lose, yet they scream their lie the loudest and that's supposed to upset me? Quite the opposite.
When stupid people continue to push lies and propaganda while they continue to lose, that's a good thing. I want more of it. The more Facebook pushes lies, the better. The more CNN lies, the better. The more they scream that Trump is racist, the better. Things are changing, and they've been changing while social media and MSM opens the faucet more and pumps lies. Why would I want that to stop? Why would I be dismayed that liberals are stomped and exposed for all to see?
If liberals were in the majority, they'd be winning over the past 6-8 years and Hillary would be President. Instead, she got trounced by the least popular Republican candidate we've had in a long time and the Dem party has been cleaned out. At some point, normal people need to just trust and have faith that we're in the majority. I'll never understand the Pavlovian urge to submit to the anti-American's point of view simply because they re-posted something on Facebook.
The more I see liberals pushing lies, the happier I am. It means that's what they've been reduced to while us normal people know better.
Discouraged by all liberal friends and relatives
I look at it this way young man. A very old saying "with friends like that who needs enemies."
And as for relatives. My relatives know I would nail their ass to the wall. They know if they can not back up the BS, they best keep there feelings to themselves. But then I am 50 to 60+ years older then you. :thumbsup:
Quote from: tracy9 on March 22, 2017, 09:37:42 AM
Judging by the people I know I feel as if I'm the only Trump supporter out there. All day I read posts on FB talking about Russia and how Trump will be impeached and arrested for Treason and this "is the biggest scandal since Watergate". Why are so many sheep of the media? When ever I present and argument they tell me I'm just using "Alternative facts". (If I have to read the phrase one more time....ugh). It's so disconcerning. The
Well, I'm guessing most of us don't want our cars or property to be vandalized, which is the primary reason I don't attempt to discuss too much with liberals in person.
Quote from: walkstall on March 22, 2017, 05:17:33 PM
Discouraged by all liberal friends and relatives
I look at it this way young man. A very old saying "with friends like that who needs enemies."
And as for relatives. My relatives know I would nail their ass to the wall. They know if they can not back up the BS, they best keep there feelings to themselves. But then I am 50 to 60+ years older then you. :thumbsup:
For years... I wondered who wrote the negative review to the book, "How to win friends and influence people" :ttoung:
Something to be said for getting older and wiser (and your mother isn't around to slap you..).
Truth & honesty is more important than people's feelings.
30yr old, "I'm sorry I hurt your feelings... -sniff- I really didn't mean to hurt you."
50yr old, "I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe I could have said - hell, I'm just getting old & can't change."
70yr old, "You still hanging on to that BS? When are you gonna grow up, or are you content to die with a foolish lie on your lips!?"
Quote from: Hoofer on March 22, 2017, 06:37:52 PM
For years... I wondered who wrote the negative review to the book, "How to win friends and influence people" :ttoung:
Something to be said for getting older and wiser (and your mother isn't around to slap you..).
Truth & honesty is more important than people's feelings.
30yr old, "I'm sorry I hurt your feelings... -sniff- I really didn't mean to hurt you."
50yr old, "I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe I could have said - hell, I'm just getting old & can't change."
70yr old, "You still hanging on to that BS? When are you gonna grow up, or are you content to die with a foolish lie on your lips!?"
Over 80 years old, Your full of shit!!!! :lol:
Quote from: walkstall on March 22, 2017, 07:45:11 PM
Over 80 years old, Your full of shit!!!! :lol:
So I can tell everyone I'm just ahead of my time? :lol: Or wise beyond my years?, I think I like that one better.
Quote from: s3779m on March 23, 2017, 03:33:51 AM
So I can tell everyone I'm just ahead of my time? :lol: Or wise beyond my years?, I think I like that one better.
My girls leaned the phrase at a very young age, and used it on boys as needed. :lol: