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Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« on: January 04, 2019, 01:53:47 PM »
Trump: I could declare a national emergency to get border wall

President Trump said Friday that he might declare a national emergency so that he could bypass Congress and order the construction of his long-promised wall on the southern border.

“Absolutely, we can call a national emergency. I haven’t done it. I may do it. I may do it. We can call a national emergency and build it very quickly,” he said during a press briefing in the Rose Garden after a two-hour meeting with top Democrats about the government shutdown and border security.

“It’s another way of doing it. If we can do it through a negotiated process, we’re giving that a shot.”

Asked if that stance was a threat to Democrats, Trump replied: “I never threaten anybody but I am allowed to do it.”

https://nypost.com/2019/01/04/trump-i-could-declare-a-national-emergency-to-get-border-wall/
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 05:37:39 PM »
Haven't we seen this movie already - similar to the travel ban? Wouldn't it then just go to the lib courts and they would shut it down. Or is there a reason to hope otherwise.

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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2019, 05:44:28 PM »
Haven't we seen this movie already - similar to the travel ban? Wouldn't it then just go to the lib courts and they would shut it down. Or is there a reason to hope otherwise.

How could the courts shut down a wall or any other barrier?  Especially If there is an existing barrier
What I would like to see if Trump declare MARTIAL LAW Within 5 miles of the US Border and have the Military establish a PERIMETER manned by armed troops.  That would REALLY torque their jaws and not a damn thing the Courts could do about it.
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2019, 06:25:06 PM »
Haven't we seen this movie already - similar to the travel ban? Wouldn't it then just go to the lib courts and they would shut it down. Or is there a reason to hope otherwise.
In the event of a National Emergency, Trump is in full control, Congress nor the courts have any say.
I think there is a time frame involved, but if he throws the full support of the military behind it, we could see a barrier in less than a year.
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2019, 06:33:21 PM »
I think the democrats will cave before it comes to that. Thousands of lifelong democrats not getting their paychecks? Pelosi and Schumer's phones will be melting down.


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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2019, 08:54:22 PM »
The Dems are already trying to figure out how to weasle out of it.  Some of them are talking about this version of a slatted steel wall rather than the concrete wall SO THEY CAN CALL IT A FENCE.  I think thats what they are going to agree to, funding thirty a foot tall steel beams which are slatted, apparently at the request of the border patrol so they can see thru it.  The Dems will claim "victory" saying it isn't a wall but a fence.
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2019, 09:02:23 PM »
The Dems are already trying to figure out how to weasle out of it.  Some of them are talking about this version of a slatted steel wall rather than the concrete wall SO THEY CAN CALL IT A FENCE.  I think thats what they are going to agree to, funding thirty a foot tall steel beams which are slatted, apparently at the request of the border patrol so they can see thru it.  The Dems will claim "victory" saying it isn't a wall but a fence.
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I read that back peddling earlier and knew there was a crack in their Wall. Trump wins. :thumbsup:
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2019, 01:42:04 AM »
The Dems are already trying to figure out how to weasle out of it.  Some of them are talking about this version of a slatted steel wall rather than the concrete wall SO THEY CAN CALL IT A FENCE.  I think thats what they are going to agree to, funding thirty a foot tall steel beams which are slatted, apparently at the request of the border patrol so they can see thru it.  The Dems will claim "victory" saying it isn't a wall but a fence.
And more jobs will be added to the American manufacturing sector.  :thumbup:

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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2019, 05:37:35 AM »
Trump: I could declare a national emergency to get border wall

President Trump said Friday that he might declare a national emergency so that he could bypass Congress and order the construction of his long-promised wall on the southern border.

“Absolutely, we can call a national emergency. I haven’t done it. I may do it. I may do it. We can call a national emergency and build it very quickly,” he said during a press briefing in the Rose Garden after a two-hour meeting with top Democrats about the government shutdown and border security.

“It’s another way of doing it. If we can do it through a negotiated process, we’re giving that a shot.”

Asked if that stance was a threat to Democrats, Trump replied: “I never threaten anybody but I am allowed to do it.”

https://nypost.com/2019/01/04/trump-i-could-declare-a-national-emergency-to-get-border-wall/

Let's step back and put this move by Trump into the overall picture of him playing democrats. He knows this suggestion will outrage the democrats and send them off in another direction trying to stop this. All he did was mention it.
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 06:06:02 AM »
Let's step back and put this move by Trump into the overall picture of him playing democrats. He knows this suggestion will outrage the democrats and send them off in another direction trying to stop this. All he did was mention it.
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Yep, plays them like children pulling an old mans finger. They know it can't be true, but they can't help themselves, they're just a stupid group of humans.
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 08:27:44 AM »
And more jobs will be added to the American manufacturing sector.  :thumbup:

Even better cause Trump was talking about using the newly re invigorated AMERICAN STEEL manufacturing companies for the contract.....Being from a Pa steel mill town this really hits home with me.
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 01:47:50 PM »
In the event of a National Emergency, Trump is in full control, Congress nor the courts have any say.
I think there is a time frame involved, but if he throws the full support of the military behind it, we could see a barrier in less than a year.
One thing I think he may be missing that would be very helpful in gaining popular support for the military to build that wall is a real threat assessment with wall recommendations from active career military officers. They should have been doing this over the last 6 months. It would be interesting to see what the active duty and reserve Officers that have been assigned to help secure the border think is necessary! A positive report from these officers would go along way to justify the Military taking a hand to the American people and give Trump additional support to defend his actions as a National security crisis!

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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2019, 02:29:22 PM »
One thing I think he may be missing that would be very helpful in gaining popular support for the military to build that wall is a real threat assessment with wall recommendations from active career military officers. They should have been doing this over the last 6 months. It would be interesting to see what the active duty and reserve Officers that have been assigned to help secure the border think is necessary! A positive report from these officers would go along way to justify the Military taking a hand to the American people and give Trump additional support to defend his actions as a National security crisis!
Not yet. There is no doubt that the Pentagon has already done a threat assessment, probably undated yearly.  I've watched trump play cards with the left, and I have no doubt that card is being held while he waits to see if the Dims fold or not.
It's funny, 90% of the nation agrees a wall would be effective in protecting our Southern border, he has the Dims by the balls and they know it. This is a losing argument for the left, they are stupid and Trump, despite leftist media, controls the narrative.
I believe the Dims will cave, only after creating language that allows them to save face, assuming Trump lets them. :biggrin:
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2019, 03:16:14 PM »
Cracking ...

House Budget Chair Yarmuth: I Don’t Think a Wall Is Immoral – Pelosi ‘Willing to Negotiate’

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On Saturday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “America’s News HQ,” House Budget Committee Chairman John Yarmuth (D-KY) said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is “willing to negotiate.”

Yarmuth also differed with Pelosi’s argument that a wall is immoral.

Host Leland Vittert asked, “[T]he positions of the White House may be a little bit all over the place, but Nancy Pelosi says not one dollar for the wall, and calls a wall immoral.

So, if you’ve got leadership saying something’s immoral, how’s that negotiating in good faith?” Yarmuth said, “Well, she’s willing to negotiate. You don’t negotiate in the media....

https://www.breitbart.com/video/2019/01/05/house-budget-chair-yarmuth-i-dont-think-a-wall-is-immoral-pelosi-willing-to-negotiate/
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Re: Dims Caught in a Vice, Trump Will Build The Wall
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2019, 03:26:28 PM »
Cracking ...

House Budget Chair Yarmuth: I Don’t Think a Wall Is Immoral – Pelosi ‘Willing to Negotiate’

https://www.breitbart.com/video/2019/01/05/house-budget-chair-yarmuth-i-dont-think-a-wall-is-immoral-pelosi-willing-to-negotiate/
And that's the language I was talking about. The Dims hate the idea of a "Wall", but a steel fence isn't out of the question. :lol:
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