Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 05, 2019, 06:20:44 PM
I think it will be Trump vs the socialist. I'll be more specific. Trump vs Sanders. I hope it will. Socialism vs capitalism. If Trump does a bit of homework and stays on message it will be a bloodbath. Sanders will be Venezuela. Lights out.

I would say more people will be voting for Trump for 2020.  As a lot of people stayed home saying why vote their all the same.  Then along came Trump showing what can be done even with the Dem's, RINO's and MSM all working together at taking him down.  Trump is not playing their games.  If they stop him Trump just finds a workaround for getting the job done. 

Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 05, 2019, 06:20:44 PM
I think it will be Trump vs the socialist. I'll be more specific. Trump vs Sanders. I hope it will. Socialism vs capitalism. If Trump does a bit of homework and stays on message it will be a bloodbath. Sanders will be Venezuela. Lights out.

The left is desperate, they may even run Kamala and him as Veep.

Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2019, 07:57:46 PM
The left is desperate, they may even run Kamala and him as Veep.

I'd hate to see that audition...

Quote from: taxed on April 05, 2019, 08:01:48 PM
I'd hate to see that audition...

Well, it is the Desperate Dim party, and stranger things have happened.

Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2019, 07:57:46 PM
The left is desperate, they may even run Kamala and him as Veep.

I do believe she will be on the ticket.

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 05, 2019, 04:36:32 AM
I watched some of the Howard Schultz town hall last night on FNC. If he decides to run as an independent he could be the democrat's worst nightmare. He struck me as a "traditional" democrat. There are many never Trump democrats who are not leftists and Schultz would be perfect candidate to attract them

Yeah I saw a little bit of that guy when he was talking about "border security" and later "Health care" and then tuned him off. HOWEVER I could see this jerkoff appealing to a lot of RIno never Trumpers as well.

I would guess the Liberal- tarian vote might go with him if he toned down the big Govt aspect.

After American voters shocked me twice and first elected and then reelected Obama, I can't count any chickens before they hatch and allow myself to believe that there will be large numbers of Democrats who all of the sudden wake up and smell the coffee a do what is best for our country. 

One thing that concerns me greatly is that there are so many one issue Democrat voters and that one issue is ABORTION!  They a nuckin futs about it!

Quote from: wally on April 06, 2019, 04:28:10 PM
After American voters shocked me twice and first elected and then reelected Obama, I can't count any chickens before they hatch and allow myself to believe that there will be large numbers of Democrats who all of the sudden wake up and smell the coffee a do what is best for our country. 

One thing that concerns me greatly is that there are so many one issue Democrat voters and that one issue is ABORTION!  They a nuckin futs about it!

I'd settle for them to come to their senses and stop voting for the socialist.

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 05, 2019, 04:36:32 AM
I watched some of the Howard Schultz town hall last night on FNC. If he decides to run as an independent he could be the democrat's worst nightmare. He struck me as a "traditional" democrat. There are many never Trump democrats who are not leftists and Schultz would be perfect candidate to attract them

That seems to be the exact niche Biden is trying to fill, moderate dim. I dont think the base is having any of it tho.

Quote from: s3779m on April 06, 2019, 04:13:59 AM
I do believe she will be on the ticket.

Yep, and the media can't hide her evil and toxic past. Though corruption is acceptable on the left, she has sooo much wrong that even her own father called her out for it, then there's the Willie Brown component.
I believe she is too damaged to make it to the end, that choosing her will be a huge mistake. I do believe Biden is the only candidate that can bring some stability to the contest, but the other factions are hell bent on destroying him.
Can Biden win? Oh God no, but not running him will expose just how bad off the party is, because only a third of the base would support one of their other choices, Biden can draw across the two thirds, while the rest only draw a third.
Does that make sense?

Quote from: s3779m on April 06, 2019, 04:55:40 PM
I'd settle for them to come to their senses and stop voting for the socialist.

Hoping for Democrats to come to their senses and stop voting for the socialist is like a spouse hoping that their wife or husband will come to their senses and stop drinking!  Although it does happen sometimes, even though they may know they are hurting their family and it is all their fault, they just continue to spiral down towards the bottom feeding their addiction. Democrat voters are sick.  They have deep personal problems which they blame others for and they believe that the government can be the giant band aid that make things all better.

Just as Trump inspired a record number of new voters to vote for him in 2016, Independents and even more new voters are the winning ticket.  The very best we can hope for is not for huge numbers of Democrats change and vote for Trump, but that huge numbers of Democrats are so demoralized that they go to their safe spaces and simply stay home and don't vote for anyone! That works too! 

Quote from: wally on April 06, 2019, 04:28:10 PM
After American voters shocked me twice and first elected and then reelected Obama, I can't count any chickens before they hatch and allow myself to believe that there will be large numbers of Democrats who all of the sudden wake up and smell the coffee a do what is best for our country. 

One thing that concerns me greatly is that there are so many one issue Democrat voters and that one issue is ABORTION!  They a nuckin futs about it!

This is true, and the party is suffering for it because every candidate is running on one issue, be it socialism, hate, reparations, illegals, the list is long, but none offer anything that crosses all candidates, so the base will divide and refuse to budge in supporting someone else.
Abortion is no longer a winning issue on the left, that ship sailed when the base discovered the crony connection to selling baby body parts for profit,. But hate for Trump is not going to win elections if they don't offer something that appeals across all factions of the base.
I assure you, the Dim party is dead for decades. I have a plan that could save them, but I'm no longer willing to divulge it publicly, I don't want them back in power.

Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2019, 06:16:00 AM
Yep, and the media can't hide her evil and toxic past. Though corruption is acceptable on the left, she has sooo much wrong that even her own father called her out for it, then there's the Willie Brown component.
I believe she is too damaged to make it to the end, that choosing her will be a huge mistake. I do believe Biden is the only candidate that can bring some stability to the contest, but the other factions are hell bent on destroying him.
Can Biden win? Oh God no, but not running him will expose just how bad off the party is, because only a third of the base would support one of their other choices, Biden can draw across the two thirds, while the rest only draw a third.
Does that make sense?

Another way to put it, if Biden runs, a third of the party will leave, if one of the other socialist run, two thirds will leave.  i also see the radical socialist staying at home and not voting. I am beginning to think they would rather riot after the fact. I look at aoc and see a my way or the highway attitude and in her followers I see a "its our time" attitude. If their candidate does not win the primary I do not see them voting. Either way, we are seeing the end of the democrat party. Might be some job openings there for some unemployed rino's.

Quote from: s3779m on April 07, 2019, 06:37:49 AM
Another way to put it, if Biden runs, a third of the party will leave, if one of the other socialist run, two thirds will leave.  i also see the radical socialist staying at home and not voting. I am beginning to think they would rather riot after the fact. I look at aoc and see a my way or the highway attitude and in her followers I see a "its our time" attitude. If their candidate does not win the primary I do not see them voting. Either way, we are seeing the end of the democrat party. Might be some job openings there for some unemployed rino's.

BINGO!!! And the one thing no one is talking about, is the base has dwindled to nearly a third of what it was under Obozo, so they are having to scramble to garner as much of the vote as possible.
This is going to be a landslide win for Trump, especially considering he breaking up the illegal vote as well.

Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2019, 07:25:40 AM
BINGO!!! And the one thing no one is talking about, is the base has dwindled to nearly a third of what it was under Obozo, so they are having to scramble to garner as much of the vote as possible.
This is going to be a landslide win for Trump, especially considering he breaking up the illegal vote as well.

I guess that explains why the look on pelosi's face always looks worried...................or drunk.