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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2013, 03:55:39 AM »
Do you think they "had good intentions" as Rush would say, or do you think they know better and are that determined to add new dependents to the Federal Government?  I think they knew better in the 1960s and I KNOW Obama and Reid and Pelosi know better today. NOTHING matters to these people except acquiring more and more power and control over the masses.
No doubt in my little world they don't care about good intentions, It's about getting EVERYONE to RELY on GOVERNMENT no matter the cost!
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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2013, 04:09:13 PM »
The eugenics broad, the PP folks, and Cloward-Piven have proven many times what a terrible joke is being played on minorities.  And how there are no 'good intentions' whatsoever.

The progressives own them and their votes just as much as any slave was ever owned, but totally plan on obliterating them through abortion, other eugenics, and collapsing the economy on their heads so that they end up eating each other in the big cities.

The opportunities of liberty, competition, and strong families was the only hope the minorities ever had.  Only the conservatives ever offered such.  Too bad most minority votes now go for the fake 'free stuff' mantra.

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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2013, 10:28:49 PM »
Oh come on guys you know all this isn't true just made up by the right wing media is all, after all they have strict Gun Control so it has to be the safest place in the world right next to Chicagoland right?
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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2013, 02:06:01 AM »
What part of the ATL area do you live? A native?

I moved to Atlanta in 1992.  I live in Alpharetta.
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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2013, 09:30:42 AM »
Total BS.

No matter how poor, black white Italian Irish Slavic or whatever, there were still standards of decency and shame.

Teen / child pregnancy, out-of wedlock kids (AKA bastards, lol) being an able-bodied welfare bum, drugs and drunkenness.....all were stigmatized no matter how poor and simple you may be.  And police, religious leaders, teachers, older people, were respected.

It is IN FACT today's ghetto culture that has worked long & hard to establish that nothing is wrong or shameful, and that no respect is due anybody if it interferes with your selfish desires.

It's not all race-based, but it is skewed toward some rather nasty and obvious cultural conditions.

Anybody who plays the false equivalency, "they're all the same", or "its always been like that"....is a damned liar.  But a classic dodge / coverup, I must admit.

I laugh at the word "bastard" because it's history shows how far we've fallen.  It used to be such a shameful thing to have a child out of wedlock, that you had a term that would just savage everybody involved, even the poor little kid.

Now, it's completely acceptable, even admirable, to see these dogs with 10-20 kids by 5-10 different women.
Laughing at the thought of child support.

Nothing is wrong now, you're a bigot and racist if you say anything's wrong, which is really unsustainable for a society.  That's why it's ghetto, and a completely new phenomenon.
And Bullshit back at you. The idea that all these problems only arrived with black people ignores the fact that, as a another poster pointed out, black social indicators were better than those of whites. The major difference between now and then, is the disappearance of low skill, industrial, manufacturing jobs. Once upon a time, every one could get a job down at the "mill". Those days are gone. The era when American manufacturing pretty much owned the world is over. Blacks are now sitting in cities which are the remnants of that era. Throw in abysmal schooling, and a social services system that seems designed to produce long term employment only for the social service employees.  It seems 40 years of "Liberal caring" has accomplished something 200 hundred years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow couldn't - the destruction of the black family and the end of the black community. 
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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2013, 10:18:20 AM »
And Bullshit back at you. The idea that all these problems only arrived with black people ignores the fact that, as a another poster pointed out, black social indicators were better than those of whites. The major difference between now and then, is the disappearance of low skill, industrial, manufacturing jobs. Once upon a time, every one could get a job down at the "mill". Those days are gone. The era when American manufacturing pretty much owned the world is over. Blacks are now sitting in cities which are the remnants of that era. Throw in abysmal schooling, and a social services system that seems designed to produce long term employment only for the social service employees.  It seems 40 years of "Liberal caring" has accomplished something 200 hundred years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow couldn't - the destruction of the black family and the end of the black community.

"It seems 40 years of "Liberal caring" has accomplished something 200 hundred years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow couldn't - the destruction of the black family and the end of the black community."

Well stated.  :thumbup:
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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2013, 10:27:22 AM »
"It seems 40 years of "Liberal caring" has accomplished something 200 hundred years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow couldn't - the destruction of the black family and the end of the black community."

Well stated.  :thumbup:

It was well stated; but I have a complaint anyway.

Why focus the attention of the destruction of "Liberal Caring" on the black population?

Sure, it's easy to see in the inner cities; but I would contend that "Liberal Caring" is in the process of shredding everything that's good about this entire country. Libs love diversity, therefore, everybody is in their crosshairs. They won't stop until 90% of the country is standing in bread lines.........but we will finally have equality and fairness.

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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2013, 10:52:01 AM »
I agree. I just thought mdgiles concisely described what liberal polices have done to the Black community in particular. I suspect there is a real struggle in the Black community between those cherishing the values that previously were so prominent in that community and those who have become dependent on "the system".
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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2013, 06:41:30 PM »
It was well stated; but I have a complaint anyway.

Why focus the attention of the destruction of "Liberal Caring" on the black population?

Sure, it's easy to see in the inner cities; but I would contend that "Liberal Caring" is in the process of shredding everything that's good about this entire country. Libs love diversity, therefore, everybody is in their crosshairs. They won't stop until 90% of the country is standing in bread lines.........but we will finally have equality and fairness.

 Because the assumption is often made that Detroit's troubles are the result if DEMOCRAT rule. It's not that simple. You have generations of teens giving birth to bastards who grow up with the morality they received from TEENS who had no legitimate fathers or mothers. It cannot be fixed with a Republican mayor or even a dictator. Detroit has passed the point of no return.  It's the CULTURE that prevents businesses from establishing themselves there. The peasants (for the most part) lack the AMERICAN work ethic. They are dependent on the Godvernment and there is simply no way out. There are no jobs. What else do they have but hand outs from the rest of the state and the feds.

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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2013, 07:22:47 PM »
Because the assumption is often made that Detroit's troubles are the result if DEMOCRAT rule. It's not that simple. You have generations of teens giving birth to bastards who grow up with the morality they received from TEENS who had no legitimate fathers or mothers. It cannot be fixed with a Republican mayor or even a dictator. Detroit has passed the point of no return.  It's the CULTURE that prevents businesses from establishing themselves there. The peasants (for the most part) lack the AMERICAN work ethic. They are dependent on the Godvernment and there is simply no way out. There are no jobs. What else do they have but hand outs from the rest of the state and the feds.

Detroit is simply a microcosm of the entire US, and it goes well beyond democrat rule; nor is it a strictly black issue.

Liberals have been hard at work for decades, destroying the traditional family structure. Womens lib, religion is stupid, shacking up is cool, hooking up is cool, homosexuality, spanking kids is child abuse, abortions are great for birth control, endorsing promiscuity, live for the moment.

With each generation, they are completely screwing up greater and greater numbers of young people. And they vote.

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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2013, 07:45:19 PM »
You're right. It's good to always have hope, but when you think it through, How can it all end except total collapse? The next generation learns their morality from the previous. The saying is true, "what one generation TOLERATES, the next will EMBRACE.

Entropy, the fundamental law of physics, also governs every society. Evolution is a LIE. Thing don't evolve, they DEvolve. everything runs down eventually, including cultures, until they self-destruct.


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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2013, 08:19:51 PM »
You're right. It's good to always have hope, but when you think it through, How can it all end except total collapse? The next generation learns their morality from the previous. The saying is true, "what one generation TOLERATES, the next will EMBRACE.

Entropy, the fundamental law of physics, also governs every society. Evolution is a LIE. Thing don't evolve, they DEvolve. everything runs down eventually, including cultures, until they self-destruct.

I can't see it working out well. Even if we are able to replace our current corrupt politicians, there is nothing we can do with our millions of dumbed down citizens. :sad:

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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2013, 05:35:13 AM »
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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2013, 09:40:49 AM »
Because the assumption is often made that Detroit's troubles are the result if DEMOCRAT rule. It's not that simple. You have generations of teens giving birth to bastards who grow up with the morality they received from TEENS who had no legitimate fathers or mothers. It cannot be fixed with a Republican mayor or even a dictator. Detroit has passed the point of no return.  It's the CULTURE that prevents businesses from establishing themselves there. The peasants (for the most part) lack the AMERICAN work ethic. They are dependent on the Godvernment and there is simply no way out. There are no jobs. What else do they have but hand outs from the rest of the state and the feds.

Given the chance all cultures can change and business environment can thrive through proved economic theory. All business seek the most profitable area to set up business, if Detroit cut regulation, removed minimum wage and reduced taxation then business would move to Detroit and take on the unskilled workers. Single parent household have less income but its obvious due too it being single income, but there is no correlation that single parent households have less work ethic. Single parents have double responsability, and less time/oppurtunity to keep a full time job, that combined with all women prefer part time jobs creates a difference between percieved work ethic and reality. They have no jobs due to regulation and taxation (combined with free trade with china/mexico) and for this reason are dependent on the government which in turns enforces the cycle with incentives to be on wellfare.

You state that policies can't change this because of culture, but the culture is a result of policies. Your argument is an oxymoron.

You're right. It's good to always have hope, but when you think it through, How can it all end except total collapse? The next generation learns their morality from the previous. The saying is true, "what one generation TOLERATES, the next will EMBRACE.

Entropy, the fundamental law of physics, also governs every society. Evolution is a LIE. Thing don't evolve, they DEvolve. everything runs down eventually, including cultures, until they self-destruct.

Decline is always a choice, social entropy is not a law of physics. Its a result of relativism and direct influence of communism. That all cultures and all civilizations have a life cycle comes from Oswald Spengler (among others) , but decline is always a choice if you learn from history and maintain/enforce the social values that keeps us strong.




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Re: Detroit Tops The 2012 List Of America's Most Dangerous Cities
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2013, 10:26:25 AM »
Financial update on Detroit.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/20/detroit-is-in-financial-emergency-state-appointed-review-finds/?test=latestnews

It appears the city is edging ever closely to bankruptcy. Based on the article it would seem Detroit is on the verge of Republican Gov. Snyder appointing a manager who would have total control over the finances of the city. It is clear borrowing has been the tool to fund the bureacracy and pensions for quite a few years. I would think this will stop and all the union contracts would have to be renegotiated.

It seems dem control over Detroit is about to end.
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