Quote from: topside on July 28, 2017, 04:09:46 AM
Skinny repeal was a joke but even it failed:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/28/skinny-repeal-obamacare-fails-in-senate-as-3-republicans-vote-no.html

Reveals at least three of the farthest left RINOs.

Obamacare repeal / replace is dead. Now we just stand by and watch Obamacare burn to the ground. Must paint repeal / replace targets on the RINOs and try and convince the people to vote out more Dims.

- McCain will be gone by natural causes before long.
- Not sure what pressure is being brought against Collins or Murkowski - but it should be worked daily.

I'm setting aside time weekly to get Portman repealed and/or replaced. He needs to go. There are plenty of promising alternatives to Portman. The problem is overcoming his name recognition. Not sure the Pub party can deal with that as they should.

Pure term limits keeps getting words but no action. As was said, it's the chickens guarding the coup - will never happen. Maybe the rules governing the actions of congress should be controlled by another branch. Maybe interpret it unconstitutional for congress to setup their own governance and have the executive recommend a governance structure (like term limits and congress HC) and judiciary approve it. That has a better chance of getting term limits.

Pretty much everything I've said is being ignored while most just whine about our losses and pretend it's going to get better. I thought some of the experience on this site might provide ideas on how to instigate action that would make a difference. I'm starting to think this forum isn't of much value except to feel better after a vent or rant. Or maybe just to read some bad humor.

But, anyway, I'll try again. I spoke to someone that identified that how Congress HC is controlled is not by law. So who could switch them over to Obamacare. Does anyone know how that process works?

Pretty simple. Congress would have to approve it.. That ai'nt going to happen.

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 28, 2017, 04:23:32 AM
Pretty simple. Congress would have to approve it.. That ai'nt going to happen.

This suggests that you are mistaken Sup:

"It's also troubling that the Trump administration used executive powers to bail out insurers but will not use his lawful executive power to end Obama's order exempting members of Congress from paying the full Obamacare freight," Daniel Horowitz recently wrote at ConservativeReview.com.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/29/trump-threatens-to-end-health-care-bailouts-for-insurers-lawmakers.html

If Horowitz statement were true, I would think Trump would make the move quickly. Why wouldn't he? Is he just playing political games with HC similar to Ohio's dishonorable Mr. Portman?

Quote from: topside on July 30, 2017, 05:48:11 AM
This suggests that you are mistaken Sup:

"It's also troubling that the Trump administration used executive powers to bail out insurers but will not use his lawful executive power to end Obama's order exempting members of Congress from paying the full Obamacare freight," Daniel Horowitz recently wrote at ConservativeReview.com.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/29/trump-threatens-to-end-health-care-bailouts-for-insurers-lawmakers.html

If Horowitz statement were true, I would think Trump would make the move quickly. Why wouldn't he? Is he just playing political games with HC similar to Ohio's dishonorable Mr. Portman?

It seems to me a little bit of Obamacare was included for congress and staff to provide a little cover. However, if he did something congress would just go back to their old sweetheart scheme before Obamacare.