Democrats still rigging elections?

Started by Cryptic Bert, May 15, 2018, 07:00:57 PM

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Solar

Not surprised in the least, but I have no doubt, the gop'E does the same thing every election, they are, after all, cut from the same burka.
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Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Not surprised in the least, but I have no doubt, the gop'E does the same thing every election, they are, after all, cut from the same burka.
You can bet the GOPe is out there doing the exact same thing against conservative candidates as the DNC is doing against "progressive" democrats. (Is there any other kind?)

But, I have to say that there is a difference between stating that the party leadership/infrastructure is backing a particular candidate for the primaries, and outright rigging an election. The party leadership has every authority to choose whom to back. Telling a challenger "We're backing so-and-so" is, IMO, not "rigging."

That said, the democratic presidential primaries were, indeed, rigged.

Solar

Quote from: zewazir on May 15, 2018, 09:02:15 PM
You can bet the GOPe is out there doing the exact same thing against conservative candidates as the DNC is doing against "progressive" democrats. (Is there any other kind?)

But, I have to say that there is a difference between stating that the party leadership/infrastructure is backing a particular candidate for the primaries, and outright rigging an election. The party leadership has every authority to choose whom to back. Telling a challenger "We're backing so-and-so" is, IMO, not "rigging."

That said, the democratic presidential primaries were, indeed, rigged.
That was my thought exactly, that they were doing their damnedest to keep TEA out as we've witnessed in several elections.
It was never for party or the people, it was to retain power for the leftist status quo.
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Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Not surprised in the least, but I have no doubt, the gop'E does the same thing every election, they are, after all, cut from the same burka.

Then we NEED a voter fraud commision to put an end to these shenanegins. Didnt trump close his down?

Out here in nebraska we dont need voter fraud because our rinos run unopposed (jeff fortenberry)
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Quote from: T Hunt on May 16, 2018, 07:19:56 AM
Then we NEED a voter fraud commision to put an end to these shenanegins. Didnt trump close his down?

Out here in nebraska we dont need voter fraud because our rinos run unopposed (jeff fortenberry)
Technically, it is voter fraud, but sadly people had become accustomed to party politics.
This is why TEA came on strong in an effort to purge the gop'E of the leftists.
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Quote from: T Hunt on May 16, 2018, 07:19:56 AM
Then we NEED a voter fraud commision to put an end to these shenanegins. Didnt trump close his down?

Out here in nebraska we dont need voter fraud because our rinos run unopposed (jeff fortenberry)

With all due respect another government commission will never solve anything. Te GOP must accept the democrats will always try to rig elections. How do you fight it? Hire a bunch of Lee Atwater clones and turn them loose.
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Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2018, 05:46:16 AM
That was my thought exactly, that they were doing their damnedest to keep TEA out as we've witnessed in several elections.
It was never for party or the people, it was to retain power for the leftist status quo.
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On the mark!
Repeating, our only Principled National Conservative Party was the Southern
Agrarian & Rural Democrats of Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison,
John Calhoun, among many dozens; unfortunately fatally tarred by slavery.
The GOP, developed from the northern mercantile class later morphing into the
party of Big Business and Crony Capitalism; having absolutely nothing to do
w/Principled Conservatism; the political heritage of Ancient Greece and Rome.

Solar

Quote from: Walter Josh on May 16, 2018, 12:32:23 PM
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On the mark!
Repeating, our only Principled National Conservative Party was the Southern
Agrarian & Rural Democrats of Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison,
John Calhoun, among many dozens; unfortunately fatally tarred by slavery.
The GOP, developed from the northern mercantile class later morphing into the
party of Big Business and Crony Capitalism; having absolutely nothing to do
w/Principled Conservatism; the political heritage of Ancient Greece and Rome.
You missed an interesting exchange. Starting around reply #6 give or take a reply or two.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/history-of-the-rino
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Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2018, 12:38:55 PM
You missed an interesting exchange. Starting around reply #6 give or take a reply or two.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/history-of-the-rino
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Solar, indeed.
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Quote from: Walter Josh on May 16, 2018, 03:40:45 PM
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Solar, indeed.
The Tea Party is a life raft for those adrift in a Swamp of Despair and Incompetence!!!
Well stated.
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What is interesting about this is the democrats have won some elections recently (remember the blue wave?) And this candidates ran on a Trump platform. Yesterday the farthest of the far left won their primaries.

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Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 16, 2018, 06:20:56 PM
What is interesting about this is the democrats have won some elections recently (remember the blue wave?) And this candidates ran on a Trump platform. Yesterday the farthest of the far left won their primaries.
And the farthest from the left is going to be "The blue wave"?   :lol: :lol: :lol: Even when the dims tried to pick the winner in the primaries, the radical left won. That's all they have left in their voter base. We know the dim party is dead, hope the midterms bury it and get rid of the stink.  Should help fire up the election.

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I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but this conversation was not revealing any criminal activity, or election fraud.  What Rep. Hoyer described is exactly how all the Political Action Committees (like the NRA, AARP, NASE, DCCC, etc., etc.) operate.

The contributions from the members of the PAC are spent on candidates that support their agenda.  The Supreme Court held in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010) that political contributions by corporations (like the DCCC) is "free speech" and protected by the First Amendment.

As a NRA Life Member and member of the NASE, I make regular contributions so that these PACs will help me pursue my political agenda.  I am also a member of the Alaska NRA-ILA Steering Committee, and I work locally to ensure the Second Amendment is not being infringed.  My political contributions allow me to have a say in other venues, beyond Alaska.

If you want an example of Democrats actually rigging an election, I refer you to the 2016 recount that Jill Stein started.  In Detroit, Michigan, none of the official ballot counts (tallied by State employees) matched the actual votes from the sealed ballot bags from any of the districts.  They were all inflated in Hillary's favor.  Now THAT is real systemic Democrat election fraud.  Which we would never had known about had it not been for Stein's recount.

Cryptic Bert

Quote from: |Glitch| on May 17, 2018, 01:15:04 AM
I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but this conversation was not revealing any criminal activity, or election fraud.  What Rep. Hoyer described is exactly how all the Political Action Committees (like the NRA, AARP, NASE, DCCC, etc., etc.) operate.

The contributions from the members of the PAC are spent on candidates that support their agenda.  The Supreme Court held in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010) that political contributions by corporations (like the DCCC) is "free speech" and protected by the First Amendment.

As a NRA Life Member and member of the NASE, I make regular contributions so that these PACs will help me pursue my political agenda.  I am also a member of the Alaska NRA-ILA Steering Committee, and I work locally to ensure the Second Amendment is not being infringed.  My political contributions allow me to have a say in other venues, beyond Alaska.

If you want an example of Democrats actually rigging an election, I refer you to the 2016 recount that Jill Stein started.  In Detroit, Michigan, none of the official ballot counts (tallied by State employees) matched the actual votes from the sealed ballot bags from any of the districts.  They were all inflated in Hillary's favor.  Now THAT is real systemic Democrat election fraud.  Which we would never had known about had it not been for Stein's recount.

Criminal? No. Ethically and morally wrong? Yes.