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Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« on: February 13, 2020, 03:46:48 PM »
All they had to do was ask us, we've been saying this all along. :biggrin:

Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide

Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide. Democratic congressman Tim Ryan warned recently that if the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders they will lose 48 states in a repeat of the 1972 Richard Nixon reelection. Back then Democrats thought the only way to win was with a progressive coalition of college educated voters, young people, and minorities.
This strategy backfired so bad that it has gone down in history as one of the worst political failures of the United States. George McGovern lost after winning only one state. Richard Nixon won with 520 electoral votes.

Today the Democrats are being mobbed by far left ideology and a Democratic Socialist. Democrats and Republicans alike are ringing the alarm bells warning of a repeat of 1972. With a record economy, failed impeachment, Trump’s record approval it stands to reason that we are about to witness history.
While many older Democrats are already aware of what happened and what it will bring, younger activist voters never learned those lessons and are walking Democrats off a cliff. Never Bernie moderates may actually defect from the democratic party and join Trump giving him a massive landslide in November.

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Re: Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2020, 05:05:50 PM »
Get ready for impeachment deuxième partie .

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Re: Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 05:41:56 PM »
Get ready for impeachment deuxième partie .
Yep, what can it hurt? They already killed the Dim party.
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Re: Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 06:15:30 PM »
All they had to do was ask us, we've been saying this all along. :biggrin:

Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide

Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide. Democratic congressman Tim Ryan warned recently that if the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders they will lose 48 states in a repeat of the 1972 Richard Nixon reelection. Back then Democrats thought the only way to win was with a progressive coalition of college educated voters, young people, and minorities.
This strategy backfired so bad that it has gone down in history as one of the worst political failures of the United States. George McGovern lost after winning only one state. Richard Nixon won with 520 electoral votes.

Today the Democrats are being mobbed by far left ideology and a Democratic Socialist. Democrats and Republicans alike are ringing the alarm bells warning of a repeat of 1972. With a record economy, failed impeachment, Trump’s record approval it stands to reason that we are about to witness history.
While many older Democrats are already aware of what happened and what it will bring, younger activist voters never learned those lessons and are walking Democrats off a cliff. Never Bernie moderates may actually defect from the democratic party and join Trump giving him a massive landslide in November.

Video at link...

https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/02/13/democrats-fear-historical-2020-defeat-trump-could-win-520-electoral-votes-in-massive-landslide/

Sorry, but  i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble  opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something  so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a  humiliating defeat  if the  voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the  ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the  most, not the least.

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Re: Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 06:29:27 PM »
Sorry, but  i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble  opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something  so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a  humiliating defeat  if the  voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the  ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the  most, not the least.

You don't win elections with just your core base. In 2016 a lot of Obama voters voted for Trump. This time around Trump is attracting a good percentage of democrats, blacks and first time voters. What Sanders could have done has no bearing on this election.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 06:39:30 PM »
You don't win elections with just your core base. In 2016 a lot of Obama voters voted for Trump. This time around Trump is attracting a good percentage of democrats, blacks and first time voters. What Sanders could have done has no bearing on this election.

We are going to find  out about all that  black support Trump is supposed to have. Ihave read of  20-30% My prediction is it will be around  7% in the actual election. 2016 may  have  no bearing  on 2020 but  its  playing  out in reverse. The article mentions never bernie  "moderates" voting for  Trump. Gee, i seem to remember alot  of  so-called never Trumpers were going to support Hillary. If the economy remains strong Trump has the upper  hand but the only dem candidate with a solid core of support, Sanders, is the  most  likely to beat him, not the  least  likely.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 06:54:38 PM »
We are going to find  out about all that  black support Trump is supposed to have. Ihave read of  20-30% My prediction is it will be around  7% in the actual election. 2016 may  have  no bearing  on 2020 but  its  playing  out in reverse. The article mentions never bernie  "moderates" voting for  Trump. Gee, i seem to remember alot  of  so-called never Trumpers were going to support Hillary. If the economy remains strong Trump has the upper  hand but the only dem candidate with a solid core of support, Sanders, is the  most  likely to beat him, not the  least  likely.

What is Sander's "core support"?

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Re: Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2020, 08:02:15 PM »
Sorry, but  i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble  opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something  so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a  humiliating defeat  if the  voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the  ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the  most, not the least.
You're delusional. Bernie's base are commie fools and no where as big as you think. Remember Paulbots, that's the size of his base, a very vocal group with few numbers, in fact, the Dim base is considerably smaller than it was in 2016 and he only gets a portion of it.

The party is deathly afraid if Bernie gets the nod, the rest of the base will abandon the party because they don't want an actual commie representing them..
Take a look at 538, https://twitter.com/NateSilver538


Point is, half the base despise him and Warren, they hate Biden because he and Klobuchar would mean a return to the "Good Ol Days" of perpetual Depression.
Nope, Bernie may win the nomination, but it will also split the party in so many directions, it would never recover. Granted, it's already dead, but it still has a slim chance at recovery in a few decades.

There is but one candidate that can keep the party structure somewhat intact, and that's Biden the incompetent. Oh, and Trump WILL win in a bloody slaughter of a landslide victory regardless of who they select.

The refusal to endorse is a repeat of 2016, when the union decided to stay out of the bitter primary between Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

This year, the union helped drag itself into the crossfire by criticizing Medicare for All in a leaflet to members that outraged Sanders’ supporters and other progressive groups. Union leaders were “doxed” by having personal information released on social media.

The union fired back at Sanders’ supporters on Wednesday, and on Thursday, Sanders’ campaign tweeted a message of support for the group to calm tensions.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/nevadas-powerful-culinary-union-declines-to-endorse-a-2020-candidate-115019
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 09:15:37 PM »
Unions will support Sanders because they always back the democrats but I suspect a lot of actual union members will not vote for Sanders because he wants to take away their healthcare and replace it with god knows what.

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Re: Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 12:06:27 AM »
I think lot of Democrats are going to lose house and Senate seats. I think AOC and her squad could be as Greg likes to say TOAST.

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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2020, 02:25:16 AM »
Sorry, but  i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble  opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something  so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a  humiliating defeat  if the  voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the  ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the  most, not the least.

But are Sander's supporters enough? As hard as it is to conceive there are older more moderate Democrats who no longer recognize their party and don't like the direction it's headed. They won't vote for a socialist so their options are to either vote for Bernie which they won't or stay home. I know a few who said as much.

Solar is right. Trump in a landslide.

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Re: Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2020, 03:07:04 AM »
We are going to find  out about all that  black support Trump is supposed to have. Ihave read of  20-30% My prediction is it will be around  7% in the actual election. 2016 may  have  no bearing  on 2020 but  its  playing  out in reverse. The article mentions never bernie  "moderates" voting for  Trump. Gee, i seem to remember alot  of  so-called never Trumpers were going to support Hillary. If the economy remains strong Trump has the upper  hand but the only dem candidate with a solid core of support, Sanders, is the  most  likely to beat him, not the  least  likely.
Take a look at Trump's rallies. Over  20% are democrats who do not like what their party is offering, another +20% are independents. Now look at the only area where the democrats are in unity: nobodies base will back the other if their candidate is not the nominee, bernies base will not back biden, biden's base will not back bernie, ect.  Hard to win elections with that kind of unity. I don't even think they hate Trump as much as each other.

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2020, 03:56:21 AM »
Sorry, but  i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble  opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something  so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a  humiliating defeat  if the  voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the  ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the  most, not the least.

That's insane.  Sanders couldn't win a stuffed animal at a state fair.

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2020, 04:02:33 AM »
That's insane.  Sanders couldn't win a stuffed animal at a state fair.

Recently read an article somewhere that his supporters are millennials and those over 74. In those two groups it's the younger "give me it for free" crowd and those over 74 that didn't plan for their retirement so they want freebies as well. Not going to cut it for him. I know many millennials who love Trump. Those in that category that are working and raising families don't subscribe to Bernie's nonsense of " take it from me and give it to them".

The guy is a fraud anyway. Anyone with half a brain and there are many out there, would realize he espouses socialism and lives by capitalism.

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