All they had to do was ask us, we've been saying this all along. :biggrin:
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide. Democratic congressman Tim Ryan warned recently that if the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders they will lose 48 states in a repeat of the 1972 Richard Nixon reelection. Back then Democrats thought the only way to win was with a progressive coalition of college educated voters, young people, and minorities.
This strategy backfired so bad that it has gone down in history as one of the worst political failures of the United States. George McGovern lost after winning only one state. Richard Nixon won with 520 electoral votes.
Today the Democrats are being mobbed by far left ideology and a Democratic Socialist. Democrats and Republicans alike are ringing the alarm bells warning of a repeat of 1972. With a record economy, failed impeachment, Trump's record approval it stands to reason that we are about to witness history.
While many older Democrats are already aware of what happened and what it will bring, younger activist voters never learned those lessons and are walking Democrats off a cliff. Never Bernie moderates may actually defect from the democratic party and join Trump giving him a massive landslide in November.
Video at link...
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/02/13/democrats-fear-historical-2020-defeat-trump-could-win-520-electoral-votes-in-massive-landslide/
Get ready for impeachment deuxième partie .
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 13, 2020, 05:05:50 PM
Get ready for impeachment deuxième partie .
Yep, what can it hurt? They already killed the Dim party.
Quote from: Solar on February 13, 2020, 03:46:48 PM
All they had to do was ask us, we've been saying this all along. :biggrin:
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide. Democratic congressman Tim Ryan warned recently that if the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders they will lose 48 states in a repeat of the 1972 Richard Nixon reelection. Back then Democrats thought the only way to win was with a progressive coalition of college educated voters, young people, and minorities.
This strategy backfired so bad that it has gone down in history as one of the worst political failures of the United States. George McGovern lost after winning only one state. Richard Nixon won with 520 electoral votes.
Today the Democrats are being mobbed by far left ideology and a Democratic Socialist. Democrats and Republicans alike are ringing the alarm bells warning of a repeat of 1972. With a record economy, failed impeachment, Trump's record approval it stands to reason that we are about to witness history.
While many older Democrats are already aware of what happened and what it will bring, younger activist voters never learned those lessons and are walking Democrats off a cliff. Never Bernie moderates may actually defect from the democratic party and join Trump giving him a massive landslide in November.
Video at link...
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/02/13/democrats-fear-historical-2020-defeat-trump-could-win-520-electoral-votes-in-massive-landslide/
Sorry, but i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a humiliating defeat if the voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the most, not the least.
Quote from: ldub23 on February 13, 2020, 06:15:30 PM
Sorry, but i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a humiliating defeat if the voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the most, not the least.
You don't win elections with just your core base. In 2016 a lot of Obama voters voted for Trump. This time around Trump is attracting a good percentage of democrats, blacks and first time voters. What Sanders could have done has no bearing on this election.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 13, 2020, 06:29:27 PM
You don't win elections with just your core base. In 2016 a lot of Obama voters voted for Trump. This time around Trump is attracting a good percentage of democrats, blacks and first time voters. What Sanders could have done has no bearing on this election.
We are going to find out about all that black support Trump is supposed to have. Ihave read of 20-30% My prediction is it will be around 7% in the actual election. 2016 may have no bearing on 2020 but its playing out in reverse. The article mentions never bernie "moderates" voting for Trump. Gee, i seem to remember alot of so-called never Trumpers were going to support Hillary. If the economy remains strong Trump has the upper hand but the only dem candidate with a solid core of support, Sanders, is the most likely to beat him, not the least likely.
Quote from: ldub23 on February 13, 2020, 06:39:30 PM
We are going to find out about all that black support Trump is supposed to have. Ihave read of 20-30% My prediction is it will be around 7% in the actual election. 2016 may have no bearing on 2020 but its playing out in reverse. The article mentions never bernie "moderates" voting for Trump. Gee, i seem to remember alot of so-called never Trumpers were going to support Hillary. If the economy remains strong Trump has the upper hand but the only dem candidate with a solid core of support, Sanders, is the most likely to beat him, not the least likely.
What is Sander's "core support"?
Quote from: ldub23 on February 13, 2020, 06:15:30 PM
Sorry, but i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a humiliating defeat if the voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the most, not the least.
You're delusional. Bernie's base are commie fools and no where as big as you think. Remember Paulbots, that's the size of his base, a very vocal group with few numbers, in fact, the Dim base is considerably smaller than it was in 2016 and he only gets a portion of it.
The party is deathly afraid if Bernie gets the nod, the rest of the base will abandon the party because they don't want an actual commie representing them..
Take a look at 538, https://twitter.com/NateSilver538.
Point is, half the base despise him and Warren, they hate Biden because he and Klobuchar would mean a return to the "Good Ol Days" of perpetual Depression.
Nope, Bernie may win the nomination, but it will also split the party in so many directions, it would never recover. Granted, it's already dead, but it still has a slim chance at recovery in a few decades.
There is but one candidate that can keep the party structure somewhat intact, and that's Biden the incompetent. Oh, and Trump WILL win in a bloody slaughter of a landslide victory regardless of who they select.
The refusal to endorse is a repeat of 2016, when the union decided to stay out of the bitter primary between Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
This year, the union helped drag itself into the crossfire by criticizing Medicare for All in a leaflet to members that outraged Sanders' supporters and other progressive groups. Union leaders were "doxed" by having personal information released on social media.
The union fired back at Sanders' supporters on Wednesday, and on Thursday, Sanders' campaign tweeted a message of support for the group to calm tensions.https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/nevadas-powerful-culinary-union-declines-to-endorse-a-2020-candidate-115019
Unions will support Sanders because they always back the democrats but I suspect a lot of actual union members will not vote for Sanders because he wants to take away their healthcare and replace it with god knows what.
I think lot of Democrats are going to lose house and Senate seats. I think AOC and her squad could be as Greg likes to say TOAST.
Quote from: ldub23 on February 13, 2020, 06:15:30 PM
Sorry, but i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a humiliating defeat if the voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the most, not the least.
But are Sander's supporters enough? As hard as it is to conceive there are older more moderate Democrats who no longer recognize their party and don't like the direction it's headed. They won't vote for a socialist so their options are to either vote for Bernie which they won't or stay home. I know a few who said as much.
Solar is right. Trump in a landslide.
Quote from: ldub23 on February 13, 2020, 06:39:30 PM
We are going to find out about all that black support Trump is supposed to have. Ihave read of 20-30% My prediction is it will be around 7% in the actual election. 2016 may have no bearing on 2020 but its playing out in reverse. The article mentions never bernie "moderates" voting for Trump. Gee, i seem to remember alot of so-called never Trumpers were going to support Hillary. If the economy remains strong Trump has the upper hand but the only dem candidate with a solid core of support, Sanders, is the most likely to beat him, not the least likely.
Take a look at Trump's rallies. Over 20% are democrats who do not like what their party is offering, another +20% are independents. Now look at the only area where the democrats are in unity: nobodies base will back the other if their candidate is not the nominee, bernies base will not back biden, biden's base will not back bernie, ect. Hard to win elections with that kind of unity. I don't even think they hate Trump as much as each other.
Quote from: ldub23 on February 13, 2020, 06:15:30 PM
Sorry, but i find this article to be ludicrous. Sanders, in my humble opinion would have won in 2016. Have we forgotten something so soon as this? Do we all remember the rep establishment despising Trump like the dem establishment despises Sanders now? Have we also forgotten the rep establishment predicting a humiliating defeat if the voters selected Trump in 2016? Sanders is the ONLY dem candidate who has a dedicated motivated core of support. I fear him the most, not the least.
That's insane. Sanders couldn't win a stuffed animal at a state fair.
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 03:56:21 AM
That's insane. Sanders couldn't win a stuffed animal at a state fair.
Recently read an article somewhere that his supporters are millennials and those over 74. In those two groups it's the younger "give me it for free" crowd and those over 74 that didn't plan for their retirement so they want freebies as well. Not going to cut it for him. I know many millennials who love Trump. Those in that category that are working and raising families don't subscribe to Bernie's nonsense of " take it from me and give it to them".
The guy is a fraud anyway. Anyone with half a brain and there are many out there, would realize he espouses socialism and lives by capitalism.
Quote from: American Pride on February 14, 2020, 04:02:33 AM
Recently read an article somewhere that his supporters are millennials and those over 74. In those two groups it's the younger "give me it for free" crowd and those over 74 that didn't plan for their retirement so they want freebies as well. Not going to cut it for him. I know many millennials who love Trump.
The guy is a fraud anyway. Anyone with half a brain and there are many out there, would realize he espouses socialism and lives by capitalism.
He's very corrupt...
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 04:09:15 AM
He's very corrupt...
...in addition to his miserable personality.
Quote from: American Pride on February 14, 2020, 04:27:44 AM
...in addition to his miserable personality.
I pray he doesn't cash out and runs against Trump. Unfortunately, that's a pipe dream.
Quote from: ldub23 on February 13, 2020, 06:39:30 PM
We are going to find out about all that black support Trump is supposed to have. Ihave read of 20-30% My prediction is it will be around 7% in the actual election. 2016 may have no bearing on 2020 but its playing out in reverse. The article mentions never bernie "moderates" voting for Trump. Gee, i seem to remember alot of so-called never Trumpers were going to support Hillary. If the economy remains strong Trump has the upper hand but the only dem candidate with a solid core of support, Sanders, is the most likely to beat him, not the least likely.
Unfortunately, I agree that Sanders has a good chance to beat President Trump. I put the 'blame' on the millennials who have been raised to believe that the govt is the source of all good things for the people. That's not what I believe. Seems to me that we have lost our zest for independence from govt control of our lives. ....... Sanders believes in more govt control in all facets of our lives. Yuck!
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 04:31:10 AM
I pray he doesn't cash out and runs against Trump. Unfortunately, that's a pipe dream.
He may see the writing on the wall by the time the convention rolls around and figure that he can always use another vacation home. :laugh:
Quote from: American Pride on February 14, 2020, 04:02:33 AM
Recently read an article somewhere that his supporters are millennials and those over 74. In those two groups it's the younger "give me it for free" crowd and those over 74 that didn't plan for their retirement so they want freebies as well. Not going to cut it for him. I know many millennials who love Trump. Those in that category that are working and raising families don't subscribe to Bernie's nonsense of " take it from me and give it to them".
The guy is a fraud anyway. Anyone with half a brain and there are many out there, would realize he espouses socialism and lives by capitalism.
That makes total sense. You've got brainwashed snowflakes and what amounts to, an equivalent of, beach bums, kids that never grew up who now have goiter and back problems and no way to support themselves. :lol:
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 04:33:36 AM
That makes total sense. You've got brainwashed snowflakes and what amounts to, an equivalent of, beach bums, kids that never grew up who now have goiter and back problems and no way to support themselves. :lol:
:thumbsup: :laugh:
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 04:32:14 AM
Unfortunately, I agree that Sanders has a good chance to beat President Trump. I put the 'blame' on the millennials who have been raised to believe that the govt is the source of all good things for the people. That's not what I believe. Seems to me that we have lost our zest for independence from govt control of our lives. ....... Sanders believes in more govt control in all facets of our lives. Yuck!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I needed a good laugh this morn, thanks...
Quote from: American Pride on February 14, 2020, 04:33:18 AM
He may see the writing on the wall by the time the convention rolls around and figure that he can always use another vacation home. :laugh:
That's a certainty. He's trying to pump up his stock to increase his payout...
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 04:35:34 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I needed a good laugh this morn, thanks...
Still have a weird sense of humor, I see, Oh well, no accounting for some people's tastes.
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 04:42:25 AM
Still have a weird sense of humor, I see, Oh well, no accounting for some people's tastes.
Nope, just rooted in reality. I follow politics as if it was my investment portfolio. I assure you, there is no way anyone is going to beat Trump, most people look at their job and bank account, if they are happy, they are not motivated to change things.
Most libs will probably stay home instead of taking the time to "Change" things as they normally do.
Quote from: Solar on February 13, 2020, 03:46:48 PM
All they had to do was ask us, we've been saying this all along. :biggrin:
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide. Democratic congressman Tim Ryan warned recently that if the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders they will lose 48 states in a repeat of the 1972 Richard Nixon reelection. Back then Democrats thought the only way to win was with a progressive coalition of college educated voters, young people, and minorities.
This strategy backfired so bad that it has gone down in history as one of the worst political failures of the United States. George McGovern lost after winning only one state. Richard Nixon won with 520 electoral votes.
Today the Democrats are being mobbed by far left ideology and a Democratic Socialist. Democrats and Republicans alike are ringing the alarm bells warning of a repeat of 1972. With a record economy, failed impeachment, Trump's record approval it stands to reason that we are about to witness history.
While many older Democrats are already aware of what happened and what it will bring, younger activist voters never learned those lessons and are walking Democrats off a cliff. Never Bernie moderates may actually defect from the democratic party and join Trump giving him a massive landslide in November.
Video at link...
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/02/13/democrats-fear-historical-2020-defeat-trump-could-win-520-electoral-votes-in-massive-landslide/
Carville has come out and said what we always knew - Bernie is a communist.
The media will try to pass this off as Carville being 75 year old nut. Make no mistake, he is an astute political operative and knows a disaster when he sees one.
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 04:49:54 AM
Nope, just rooted in reality. I follow politics as if it was my investment portfolio. I assure you, there is no way anyone is going to beat Trump, most people look at their job and bank account, if they are happy, they are not motivated to change things.
Most libs will probably stay home instead of taking the time to "Change" things as they normally do.
I follow politics because I usually get up before my husband, and the computer is a quiet way to spend my time. However, I have found that life's lessons are very instructive for me and I have gained a lot of wisdom from them; some I'd like to forget, some I hope I never forget. One thing I have learned is that it can be very deceiving to read about reality instead of getting out in the world and living it.
I think that "most libs" could (probably will) get out and vote. I just don't know in what direction it definitely will be. Suggestion; don't leave that 'investment portfolio' on the floor, you might stumble over it.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 13, 2020, 06:54:38 PM
What is Sander's "core support"?
His supporters? The others only have people supporting them to beat bernie, not because they like thier candidte
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:03:03 AM
I follow politics because I usually get up before my husband, and the computer is a quiet way to spend my time. However, I have found that life's lessons are very instructive for me and I have gained a lot of wisdom from them; some I'd like to forget, some I hope I never forget. One thing I have learned is that it can be very deceiving to read about reality instead of getting out in the world and living it.
I think that "most libs" could (probably will) get out and vote. I just don't know in what direction it definitely will be. Suggestion; don't leave that 'investment portfolio' on the floor, you might stumble over it.
Then why has DNC primary turnout been so low?
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 05:04:20 AM
Then why has DNC primary turnout been so low?
Look at that rogues gallery of candidates. Who can be enthusiastic? :thumbsup:
Another big problem is everyone, including Trump labeling Sanders as a socialist/communist. Its stupid right now. All it does is give anyone that might beat him a free pass to be labeled a moderate.
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:03:03 AM
I follow politics because I usually get up before my husband, and the computer is a quiet way to spend my time. However, I have found that life's lessons are very instructive for me and I have gained a lot of wisdom from them; some I'd like to forget, some I hope I never forget. One thing I have learned is that it can be very deceiving to read about reality instead of getting out in the world and living it.
I think that "most libs" could (probably will) get out and vote. I just don't know in what direction it definitely will be. Suggestion; don't leave that 'investment portfolio' on the floor, you might stumble over it.
I follow politics because it's my job to know what both sides are doing, and I assure you, the Dim party is no longer in control of their constituency of self assumed victims groups who turned against each other.
Now look at the Right, we are all aligned behind one idea, making America better than we found it, while the dims are all about micro destruction, whether it's the First or the Second Amendments, they want it gone.
Open your eyes, the Dim party you knew is gone forever, and there won't be enough people left in the ashes to revive it because half its constituency moved onto other party's when "Their Guy Lost".
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 05:04:20 AM
Then why has DNC primary turnout been so low?
It's still 8 months or so before the election, and a lot of people don't have the time or inclination to spend their time figuring out their own politics. I imagine that the Iowa Caucus disaster didn't help that cause any, either. There have been only a few primaries. I have no idea if the number of people voting in them will improve in numbers or not. The Socialist Dems remind me of the 2016 election process when the Reps ran so many candidates in the beginning and most people were surprised that we (Reps) ended up with Trump as our candidate. It's going to be an interesting period of time to say the least.
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:13:00 AM
It's still 8 months or so before the election, and a lot of people don't have the time or inclination to spend their time figuring out their own politics. I imagine that the Iowa Caucus disaster didn't help that cause any, either. There have been only a few primaries. I have no idea if the number of people voting in them will improve in numbers or not. The Socialist Dems remind me of the 2016 election process when the Reps ran so many candidates in the beginning and most people were surprised that we (Reps) ended up with Trump as our candidate. It's going to be an interesting period of time to say the least.
Then why did Trump have record turnout as an unchallenged incumbent, and have people camping in the freezing cold for 48 hours waiting to hear him speak, with overflow crowds that have their own overflow crowds? Is the election sooner for Trump somehow?
Quote from: ldub23 on February 14, 2020, 05:08:20 AM
Another big problem is everyone, including Trump labeling Sanders as a socialist/communist. Its stupid right now. All it does is give anyone that might beat him a free pass to be labeled a moderate.
They do that anyway. Why should he tip-toe around libtard narratives?
Quote from: Solar on February 13, 2020, 03:46:48 PM
All they had to do was ask us, we've been saying this all along. :biggrin:
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide
Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide. Democratic congressman Tim Ryan warned recently that if the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders they will lose 48 states in a repeat of the 1972 Richard Nixon reelection. Back then Democrats thought the only way to win was with a progressive coalition of college educated voters, young people, and minorities.
This strategy backfired so bad that it has gone down in history as one of the worst political failures of the United States. George McGovern lost after winning only one state. Richard Nixon won with 520 electoral votes.
Today the Democrats are being mobbed by far left ideology and a Democratic Socialist. Democrats and Republicans alike are ringing the alarm bells warning of a repeat of 1972. With a record economy, failed impeachment, Trump's record approval it stands to reason that we are about to witness history.
While many older Democrats are already aware of what happened and what it will bring, younger activist voters never learned those lessons and are walking Democrats off a cliff. Never Bernie moderates may actually defect from the democratic party and join Trump giving him a massive landslide in November.
Video at link...
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/02/13/democrats-fear-historical-2020-defeat-trump-could-win-520-electoral-votes-in-massive-landslide/
I see another ridiculous point in the post. As has been said 2020 isnt 2016. One other thing, 2020 isnt 1972. The electorate was a whole lot whiter then. I can see the possibility of Trump picking off MN or NH. Maybe even CO. but in no case is he going to get 520.
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 05:11:57 AM
I follow politics because it's my job to know what both sides are doing, and I assure you, the Dim party is no longer in control of their constituency of self assumed victims groups who turned against each other.
Now look at the Right, we are all aligned behind one idea, making America better than we found it, while the dims are all about micro destruction, whether it's the First or the Second Amendments, they want it gone.
Open your eyes, the Dim party you knew is gone forever, and there won't be enough people left in the ashes to revive it because half its constituency moved onto other party's when "Their Guy Lost".
Dims=chaos. Republicans = solidarity. Of course that doesn't include ilk like Mittens
Quote from: ldub23 on February 14, 2020, 05:16:32 AM
I see another ridiculous point in the post. As has been said 2020 isnt 2016. One other thing, 2020 isnt 1972. The electorate was a whole lot whiter then. I can see the possibility of Trump picking off MN or NH. Maybe even CO. but in no case is he going to get 520.
Why are you so certain the left is motivated to vote against their own best interests? The Nation just went through the worst depression in US history, half the workforce was working part time jobs just to make ends meet.
Trump completely reverses the damage incurred by the Marxist party, and you think people want to destroy the economy and return to the depression?
What world do you live in?
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 05:11:57 AM
I follow politics because it's my job to know what both sides are doing, and I assure you, the Dim party is no longer in control of their constituency of self assumed victims groups who turned against each other.
Now look at the Right, we are all aligned behind one idea, making America better than we found it, while the dims are all about micro destruction, whether it's the First or the Second Amendments, they want it gone.
Open your eyes, the Dim party you knew is gone forever, and there won't be enough people left in the ashes to revive it because half its constituency moved onto other party's when "Their Guy Lost".
I don't believe I indicated that the "Dim Party" is in control of their constituency. If I did, that's not what I meant. I have to disagree with your assessment of those on the Right, unless you are only speaking about the conservative side of the Republican Party. If you also include the Republicans who are what they not-so-lovingly call RINOS, I have to disagree with you. I are one of those dreaded RINOs and I vote Republican (for the most part). Much as a lot of Conservative members of the Republican Party like to deny it, we helped to elect Candidate Trump to the Presidency. I see our Republic as needing everyone to participate in the election process. Our Founders were very wise people.
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 05:15:07 AM
Then why did Trump have record turnout as an unchallenged incumbent, and have people camping in the freezing cold for 48 hours waiting to hear him speak, with overflow crowds that have their own overflow crowds? Is the election sooner for Trump somehow?
Sorry, I have no idea what you mean, if you're talking to me. I'm pro-Trump since he and Melania came down the escalator and he spoke. He"s the first person who said what I'd been waiting years to hear.
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:24:36 AM
I don't believe I indicated that the "Dim Party" is in control of their constituency. If I did, that's not what I meant. I have to disagree with your assessment of those on the Right, unless you are only speaking about the conservative side of the Republican Party. If you also include the Republicans who are what they not-so-lovingly call RINOS, I have to disagree with you. I are one of those dreaded RINOs and I vote Republican (for the most part). Much as a lot of Conservative members of the Republican Party like to deny it, we helped to elect Candidate Trump to the Presidency. I see our Republic as needing everyone to participate in the election process. Our Founders were very wise people.
That makes no sense. The RINO were dead set against Trump, the base elected him in spite of RINO Establishment wishes.
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:33:38 AM
Sorry, I have no idea what you mean, if you're talking to me. I'm pro-Trump since he and Melania came down the escalator and he spoke. He"s the first person who said what I'd been waiting years to hear.
I see what game you're playing. Very well.
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:03:03 AM
I follow politics because I usually get up before my husband, and the computer is a quiet way to spend my time. However, I have found that life's lessons are very instructive for me and I have gained a lot of wisdom from them; some I'd like to forget, some I hope I never forget. One thing I have learned is that it can be very deceiving to read about reality instead of getting out in the world and living it.
I think that "most libs" could (probably will) get out and vote. I just don't know in what direction it definitely will be. Suggestion; don't leave that 'investment portfolio' on the floor, you might stumble over it.
Do you really believe this while Trump has 30% of the democrats voter base waiting outside in 19 degrees weather while raining just to hear him dog the crap out of their ex-lovers the democrats. Meanwhile the democrats are having a very hard time filling living rooms never mind stadiums.
Maybe the CNN voices or Bloomberg commercials have you convinced but the optics at the Trump rallies tells me a whole different story.
Remember my friend Trump is pulling 30% of the democrat voter base and they are waiting in all sort of weather just to hear him tell the truth.
Here is a knitters story and she's only one of 30% at these Trump rallies.
After Attending a Trump Rally, I Realized Democrats Are Not Ready For 2020https://gen.medium.com/ive-been-a-democrat-for-20-years-here-s-what-i-experienced-at-trump-s-rally-in-new-hampshire-c69ddaaf6d07
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 05:35:36 AM
That makes no sense. The RINO were dead set against Trump, the base elected him in spite of RINO Establishment wishes.
Can't agree with that. What the heck is the RINO establishment? I didn't know we had one. Hmmm (thoughtful), I don't believe any party's "base" can elect anyone to the Presidency. Not to be too schmaltzy, but both parties need people other than their base to win national elections. We really do "need one anolther
These folks were part of the RINO establishment. As is pointed out, some later wised-up and decided to support him.
List of Republicans who opposed the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_2016_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 07:18:27 AM
Can't agree with that. What the heck is the RINO establishment? I didn't know we had one. Hmmm (thoughtful), I don't believe any party's "base" can elect anyone to the Presidency. Not to be too schmaltzy, but both parties need people other than their base to win national elections. We really do "need one anolther
You're so right crepe. The Bushes, McCains, Bill Kristols, David Frenchs, and all the RINOs turned out for Trump big-time.
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 05:44:46 AM
I see what game you're playing. Very well.
Then you don't know me. I'm just saying what I think. I also ask questions, if I don't understand something. Mom and Dad always said that no question is to silly to ask. What's the game and what do you base your comment on? :confused: :confused:
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 07:31:33 AM
Then you don't know me. I'm just saying what I think. I also ask questions, if I don't understand something. Mom and Dad always said that no question is to silly to ask. What's the game and what do you base your comment on? :confused: :confused:
You used how far out from election time we were to explain Dem low turnout. I then replied asking why that doesn't seem to affect Trump. You then reply pretending to have no idea what I'm talking about.
Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 07:18:27 AM
Can't agree with that. What the heck is the RINO establishment? I didn't know we had one. Hmmm (thoughtful), I don't believe any party's "base" can elect anyone to the Presidency. Not to be too schmaltzy, but both parties need people other than their base to win national elections. We really do "need one anolther
I see the problem, you don't follow politics very closely.
Think back to TEA's inception and the following massacre of Leftists in both party's during the 2010 Mid Term elections. Where we, TEA literally kneecapped the left, taking more than one thousand legislative seats from them, all the while purging RINO from the ranks of the GOP Establishment.
Yes, that's when the base started taking over the GOP. It was TEA that shed light on the leftist corruption within the GOP, it was the GOP that kept the base from keeping the house. Yes, the GOP refused to run a single Conservative in the wake of all the RINO deciding to retire at the time. And why were they retiring, you ask? Because they knew they didn't have a lambs chance in a lions den of getting reelected.
The base was sick to death of leftists destroying Our party, so we are Hell bent on taking it back, and not one thing has changed.
No, we do not need RINO in the party, they are no longer welcome, in fact, they are an impediment to saving this Nation from the Marxist scourge currently destroying the Dim party.
I don't think you even know what a real RINO is...
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 05:22:04 AM
Why are you so certain the left is motivated to vote against their own best interests? The Nation just went through the worst depression in US history, half the workforce was working part time jobs just to make ends meet.
Trump completely reverses the damage incurred by the Marxist party, and you think people want to destroy the economy and return to the depression?
What world do you live in?
If what you are saying was correct Trump's approval would be at 70%. I can see the possibility of him getting to 49-50% this election. Liberals dont backstab nearly as much as republicans do. He got 46.1% in 2016
Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 07:33:31 AM
You used how far out from election time we were to explain Dem low turnout. I then replied asking why that doesn't seem to affect Trump. You then reply pretending to have no idea what I'm talking about.
Sorry, but I'm not pretending anything. If you can't accept that, then I honestly feel sorry for you. It's not a healthy way to go about your life; accusing people that they are pretending to be something that you don't agree with.
Heck, I could assume that you are trying to drive me away from here (but I don't) since I don't agree with you. My skins a bit tougher than that. Pretense bores me.
Quote from: ldub23 on February 14, 2020, 09:33:32 AM
If what you are saying was correct Trump's approval would be at 70%. I can see the possibility of him getting to 49-50% this election. Liberals dont backstab nearly as much as republicans do. He got 46.1% in 2016
Are yo serious? 95% of media coverage of Trump has been negative, not to mention leftist polls skewing reality. Point being, he has a solid majority in support and libs are leaving the party to support him, and those that don't support him have no candidate they like in the Dim party.
So why would they even bother to vote in the first place?
Point is, our economy is roaring and people on the left recognize this, so more than likely they'll just stay home and not even vote. Either way, Trump wins in a landslide election.
To all the debbie doubters this should put it to rest............
Bernie lost 80,000 votes since his last primary campaign his New Hampshire and they sure didn't go to the other democrat candidates.
Bernie Sanders 2020 'Win' in NH Netted a LOSS OF 80,000 VOTES from 2016
2016 Sanders campaign received 152,193 votes according to the state's official totals.
But flash forward to Tuesday night, Bernie only clocked in right at 76,000 votes.
That's a loss of almost 80,000 VOTES!
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/bernie-sanders-2020-win-in-nh-netted-a-loss-of-80000-votes-from-2016/
Quote from: Bronx on February 14, 2020, 10:15:11 AM
To all the debbie doubters this should put it to rest............
Bernie lost 80,000 votes since his last primary campaign his New Hampshire and they sure didn't go to the other democrat candidates.
Bernie Sanders 2020 'Win' in NH Netted a LOSS OF 80,000 VOTES from 2016
2016 Sanders campaign received 152,193 votes according to the state's official totals.
But flash forward to Tuesday night, Bernie only clocked in right at 76,000 votes.
That's a loss of almost 80,000 VOTES!
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/bernie-sanders-2020-win-in-nh-netted-a-loss-of-80000-votes-from-2016/
And yet he's the current front runner. So truth is, he's lost a shitload of support, and still beats the competition..
This means even the competition is in worse shape than is being let on. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 10:21:46 AM
And yet he's the current front runner. So truth is, he's lost a shitload of support, and still beats the competition..
This means even the competition is in worse shape than is being let on. :lol: :lol: :lol:
No shit.......they have to really believe what the CNNs of the world are selling if they think Trump is going to lose to this field.
Quote from: Bronx on February 14, 2020, 10:30:59 AM
No shit.......they have to really believe what the CNNs of the world are selling if they think Trump is going to lose to this field.
Yep, truth is, the Dim base is down to 30% of what it was when they elected the Marxist. There is no way they can even make a presentable showing, especially now that Trump is cracking down on voter fraud..
There goes 12% of their numbers...
RCP reporting Bernie now in first in Nevada. Shit show. Meanwhile one of their largest unions the culinary workers announced they won't endorse any particular Dem candidate
Quote from: American Pride on February 14, 2020, 10:54:30 AM
RCP reporting Bernie now in first in Nevada. Shit show. Meanwhile one of their largest unions the culinary workers announced they won't endorse any particular Dem candidate
I posted on this aspect earlier. This is the same Union that put Harry Reid in power and kept him there till he retired.
Their Union is packed full of illegals and yes, somehow they get away with voting. Las Vegas is to Nevada, what the Bay Area is to Ca, the cancer on a great staate.
Donald J. Trump
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It is happening again to Crazy Bernie, just like last time, only far more obvious. They are taking the Democrat Nomination away from him, and there's very little he can do. A Rigged System!
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 11:05:37 AM
I posted on this aspect earlier. This is the same Union that put Harry Reid in power and kept him there till he retired.
Their Union is packed full of illegals and yes, somehow they get away with voting. Las Vegas is to Nevada, what the Bay Area is to Ca, the cancer on a great staate.
Figures. Illegals voting...would that be in addition to or including the deceased "voters" :laugh:
Quote from: American Pride on February 14, 2020, 11:42:52 AM
Figures. Illegals voting...would that be in addition to or including the deceased "voters" :laugh:
If I recall they set up polling places in individual casinos so all these emloyees could vote.
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 14, 2020, 11:48:43 AM
If I recall they set up polling places in individual casinos so all these emloyees could vote.
What could go wrong with voting in a casino? :rolleyes:
Undecides beat out Warren, Klobuchar and Bloomberg.. :lol:
Biden 28%
Sanders 20%
Steyer 14%
Buttigieg 8%
Amy Klobuchar 7%
Elizabeth Warren 7%
(https://cdn.filestackcontent.com/NqYfQvwrSHq3J6xr0yOy)
It's going to hard for Sanders to win if his supporters continue to attack Trump supporters and his staff talk about committing acts of violence and putting people in reeducation camps.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 14, 2020, 02:13:33 PM
It's going to hard for Sanders to win if his supporters continue to attack Trump supporters and his staff talk about committing acts of violence and putting people in reeducation camps.
Yep, he owns the nut cases...
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
Yep, he owns the nut cases...
Especially since he refuses to condemn any of it. he's a dictator at heart. There is no way he will get the nomination so there will be war. If the DNC gives it Bloomberg there will be Armageddon.
Such fun!
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 14, 2020, 02:37:06 PM
Especially since he refuses to condemn any of it. he's a dictator at heart. There is no way he will get the nomination so there will be war. If the DNC gives it Bloomberg there will be Armageddon.
Such fun!
:biggrin:
Could it get any better?
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 03:03:18 PM
:biggrin:
Could it get any better?
If they give it to hillary again. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 03:03:18 PM
:biggrin:
Could it get any better?
Only if the DNC gave the nomination to Ted Cruz. Then the liberal backlash would be so severe it would rip a whole in the fabric of the universe and swallow them all up.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 14, 2020, 03:08:51 PM
Only if the DNC gave the nomination to Ted Cruz. Then the liberal backlash would be so severe it would rip a whole in the fabric of the universe and swallow them all up.
Or Hitlary jumps in? :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 03:12:54 PM
Or Hitlary jumps in? :biggrin:
Jump in? Maybe stumble or fall face first in but not jump.