Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 05:04:20 AM
Then why has DNC primary turnout been so low?

Look at that rogues gallery of candidates.  Who can be enthusiastic?   

Another  big  problem is everyone, including Trump labeling Sanders as a  socialist/communist. Its stupid right  now. All it does is  give anyone that  might  beat him a free pass to be labeled a  moderate.

Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:03:03 AM
I follow politics because I usually get up before my husband, and the computer is a quiet way to spend my time.  However, I have found that life's lessons are very instructive for me and I have gained a lot of wisdom from them; some I'd like to forget, some I hope I never forget.  One thing I have learned is that it can be very deceiving to read about reality instead of getting out in the world and living it.

I think that "most libs" could (probably will) get out and vote.  I just don't know in what direction it definitely will be.  Suggestion; don't leave that 'investment portfolio' on the floor, you might stumble over it.

I follow politics because it's my job to know what both sides are doing, and I assure you, the Dim party is no longer in control of their constituency of self assumed victims groups who turned against each other.
Now look at the Right, we are all aligned behind one idea, making America better than we found it, while the dims are all about micro destruction, whether it's the First or the Second Amendments, they want it gone.
Open your eyes, the Dim party you knew is gone forever, and there won't be enough people left in the ashes to revive it because half its constituency moved onto other party's when "Their Guy Lost".

Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 05:04:20 AM
Then why has DNC primary turnout been so low?

It's still 8 months or so before the election, and a lot of people don't have the time or inclination to spend their time figuring out their own politics.  I imagine that the Iowa Caucus disaster didn't help that cause any, either.  There have been only a few primaries.  I have no idea if the number of people voting in them will improve in numbers or not.  The Socialist Dems remind me of the 2016 election process when the Reps ran so many candidates in the beginning and most people were surprised that we (Reps) ended up with Trump as our candidate.  It's going to be an interesting period of time to say the least.

Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:13:00 AM
It's still 8 months or so before the election, and a lot of people don't have the time or inclination to spend their time figuring out their own politics.  I imagine that the Iowa Caucus disaster didn't help that cause any, either.  There have been only a few primaries.  I have no idea if the number of people voting in them will improve in numbers or not.  The Socialist Dems remind me of the 2016 election process when the Reps ran so many candidates in the beginning and most people were surprised that we (Reps) ended up with Trump as our candidate.  It's going to be an interesting period of time to say the least.

Then why did Trump have record turnout as an unchallenged incumbent, and have people camping in the freezing cold for 48 hours waiting to hear him speak, with overflow crowds that have their own overflow crowds?  Is the election sooner for Trump somehow?

Quote from: ldub23 on February 14, 2020, 05:08:20 AM
Another  big  problem is everyone, including Trump labeling Sanders as a  socialist/communist. Its stupid right  now. All it does is  give anyone that  might  beat him a free pass to be labeled a  moderate.

They do that anyway.  Why should he tip-toe around libtard narratives?

Quote from: Solar on February 13, 2020, 03:46:48 PM
All they had to do was ask us, we've been saying this all along.

Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide

Democrats Fear Historical 2020 DEFEAT, Trump Could Win 520 Electoral Votes In MASSIVE Landslide. Democratic congressman Tim Ryan warned recently that if the Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders they will lose 48 states in a repeat of the 1972 Richard Nixon reelection. Back then Democrats thought the only way to win was with a progressive coalition of college educated voters, young people, and minorities.
This strategy backfired so bad that it has gone down in history as one of the worst political failures of the United States. George McGovern lost after winning only one state. Richard Nixon won with 520 electoral votes.

Today the Democrats are being mobbed by far left ideology and a Democratic Socialist. Democrats and Republicans alike are ringing the alarm bells warning of a repeat of 1972. With a record economy, failed impeachment, Trump's record approval it stands to reason that we are about to witness history.
While many older Democrats are already aware of what happened and what it will bring, younger activist voters never learned those lessons and are walking Democrats off a cliff. Never Bernie moderates may actually defect from the democratic party and join Trump giving him a massive landslide in November.

Video at link...

https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/02/13/democrats-fear-historical-2020-defeat-trump-could-win-520-electoral-votes-in-massive-landslide/

I see another ridiculous point  in the  post. As has been said 2020 isnt  2016. One other thing, 2020 isnt  1972. The electorate was a whole lot whiter then. I can see the  possibility  of Trump picking  off MN or NH.  Maybe even CO.  but  in no case  is he  going to get  520.

Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 05:11:57 AM
I follow politics because it's my job to know what both sides are doing, and I assure you, the Dim party is no longer in control of their constituency of self assumed victims groups who turned against each other.
Now look at the Right, we are all aligned behind one idea, making America better than we found it, while the dims are all about micro destruction, whether it's the First or the Second Amendments, they want it gone.
Open your eyes, the Dim party you knew is gone forever, and there won't be enough people left in the ashes to revive it because half its constituency moved onto other party's when "Their Guy Lost".

Dims=chaos.  Republicans = solidarity. Of course that doesn't include ilk like Mittens

Quote from: ldub23 on February 14, 2020, 05:16:32 AM
I see another ridiculous point  in the  post. As has been said 2020 isnt  2016. One other thing, 2020 isnt  1972. The electorate was a whole lot whiter then. I can see the  possibility  of Trump picking  off MN or NH.  Maybe even CO.  but  in no case  is he  going to get  520.

Why are you so certain the left is motivated to vote against their own best interests? The Nation just went through the worst depression in US history, half the workforce was working part time jobs just to make ends meet.
Trump completely reverses the damage incurred by the Marxist party, and you think people want to destroy the economy and return to the depression?
What world do you live in?

Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 05:11:57 AM
I follow politics because it's my job to know what both sides are doing, and I assure you, the Dim party is no longer in control of their constituency of self assumed victims groups who turned against each other.
Now look at the Right, we are all aligned behind one idea, making America better than we found it, while the dims are all about micro destruction, whether it's the First or the Second Amendments, they want it gone.
Open your eyes, the Dim party you knew is gone forever, and there won't be enough people left in the ashes to revive it because half its constituency moved onto other party's when "Their Guy Lost".

I don't believe I indicated that the "Dim Party" is in control of their constituency.  If I did, that's not what I meant.  I have to disagree with your assessment of those on the Right, unless you are only speaking about the conservative side of the Republican Party.  If you also include the Republicans who are what they not-so-lovingly call RINOS, I have to disagree with you.  I are one of those dreaded RINOs and I vote Republican (for the most part).  Much as a lot of Conservative members of the Republican Party like to deny it, we helped to elect Candidate Trump to the Presidency.  I see our Republic as needing everyone to participate in the election process.  Our Founders were very wise people.

Quote from: taxed on February 14, 2020, 05:15:07 AM
Then why did Trump have record turnout as an unchallenged incumbent, and have people camping in the freezing cold for 48 hours waiting to hear him speak, with overflow crowds that have their own overflow crowds?  Is the election sooner for Trump somehow?

Sorry, I have no idea what you mean, if you're talking to me.  I'm pro-Trump since he and Melania came down the escalator and he spoke.  He"s the first person who said what I'd been waiting years to hear.

Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:24:36 AM
I don't believe I indicated that the "Dim Party" is in control of their constituency.  If I did, that's not what I meant.  I have to disagree with your assessment of those on the Right, unless you are only speaking about the conservative side of the Republican Party.  If you also include the Republicans who are what they not-so-lovingly call RINOS, I have to disagree with you.  I are one of those dreaded RINOs and I vote Republican (for the most part).  Much as a lot of Conservative members of the Republican Party like to deny it, we helped to elect Candidate Trump to the Presidency.  I see our Republic as needing everyone to participate in the election process.  Our Founders were very wise people.

That makes no sense. The RINO were dead set against Trump, the base elected him in spite of RINO Establishment wishes.

Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:33:38 AM
Sorry, I have no idea what you mean, if you're talking to me.  I'm pro-Trump since he and Melania came down the escalator and he spoke.  He"s the first person who said what I'd been waiting years to hear.

I see what game you're playing. Very well.

Quote from: crepe05 on February 14, 2020, 05:03:03 AM
I follow politics because I usually get up before my husband, and the computer is a quiet way to spend my time.  However, I have found that life's lessons are very instructive for me and I have gained a lot of wisdom from them; some I'd like to forget, some I hope I never forget.  One thing I have learned is that it can be very deceiving to read about reality instead of getting out in the world and living it.

I think that "most libs" could (probably will) get out and vote.  I just don't know in what direction it definitely will be.  Suggestion; don't leave that 'investment portfolio' on the floor, you might stumble over it.

Do you really believe this while Trump has 30% of the democrats voter base waiting outside in 19 degrees weather while raining just to hear him dog the crap out of their ex-lovers the democrats. Meanwhile the democrats are having a very hard time filling living rooms never mind stadiums.

Maybe the CNN voices or Bloomberg commercials have you convinced but the optics at the Trump rallies tells me a whole different story.

Remember my friend Trump is pulling 30% of the democrat voter base and they are waiting in all sort of weather just to hear him tell the truth.

Here is a knitters story and she's only one of 30% at these Trump rallies.

After Attending a Trump Rally, I Realized Democrats Are Not Ready For 2020

https://gen.medium.com/ive-been-a-democrat-for-20-years-here-s-what-i-experienced-at-trump-s-rally-in-new-hampshire-c69ddaaf6d07

Quote from: Solar on February 14, 2020, 05:35:36 AM
That makes no sense. The RINO were dead set against Trump, the base elected him in spite of RINO Establishment wishes.

Can't agree with that.  What the heck is the RINO establishment?  I didn't know we had one.  Hmmm (thoughtful), I don't believe any party's "base" can elect anyone to the Presidency.  Not to be too schmaltzy, but both parties need people other than their base to win national elections.  We really do "need one anolther