Quote from: Hoofer on April 25, 2017, 07:30:53 AM
That's really smart!  Rising crime rate, so take the guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, criminalizing those who try to defend themselves!   Gotta love this California logic.

Not Ca logic, most of the state still has concealed carry permits, just the lib run areas don't trust the honest working man, nor do they believe they are capable of protecting themselves or the innocent around them.

Quote from: Solar on April 25, 2017, 07:58:45 AM
Not Ca logic, most of the state still has concealed carry permits, just the lib run areas don't trust the honest working man, nor do they believe they are capable of protecting themselves or the innocent around them.

Imho, Libs pass laws to prevent citizens from protecting themselves not because they do not believe they are capable, but because they believe the citizens are capable. If the citizens were not capable of defending themselves, it would not matter if they were armed or not, they would still need the government for protection, and the government could still pick and choose who gets the protection. Libs want that right to defend taken away from citizens who can defend themselves, no lib has ever said armed gangs are a problem and should be disarmed. Citizens who can protect themselves will not rely on the government to protect them and will vote for more individual rights, and what is ironic, libs don't care if the citizens get hurt or killed as long as they are in office. We are the problem for libs, not the gangs. I laugh at them when I hear how the libs are concerned about OUR guns getting stolen and getting to the wrong hands, hell they are worried those guns might be used on them.

Quote from: s3779m on April 25, 2017, 02:20:02 PM
Imho, Libs pass laws to prevent citizens from protecting themselves not because they do not believe they are capable, but because they believe the citizens are capable. If the citizens were not capable of defending themselves, it would not matter if they were armed or not, they would still need the government for protection, and the government could still pick and choose who gets the protection. Libs want that right to defend taken away from citizens who can defend themselves, no lib has ever said armed gangs are a problem and should be disarmed. Citizens who can protect themselves will not rely on the government to protect them and will vote for more individual rights, and what is ironic, libs don't care if the citizens get hurt or killed as long as they are in office. We are the problem for libs, not the gangs. I laugh at them when I hear how the libs are concerned about OUR guns getting stolen and getting to the wrong hands, hell they are worried those guns might be used on them.

Despite Feinstein's abhorrence of our First Amendment, she packs a concealed piece while advocating for gun confiscation.