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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Solar on May 03, 2017, 11:29:31 AM

Title: Define Fascism
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
It's Leftist, right?
Not if you're Millennial and trying to learn the truth, google will lie to you outright.

None of which is Right-Wing, their entire description of fascism is left on the scale, with the exception of their claim it's "Right-Wing.

Quotefas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/Submit
noun
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms:   authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More
(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

Search for yourself....
https://www.google.com/search?q=fascism&enablesearch=true
Title: Re: Define Fascism
Post by: Ghoulardi on May 03, 2017, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
It's Leftist, right?
Not if you're Millennial and trying to learn the truth, google will lie to you outright.

None of which is Right-Wing, their entire description of fascism is left on the scale, with the exception of their claim it's "Right-Wing.

Search for yourself....
https://www.google.com/search?q=fascism&enablesearch=true

For those who think fascism is a by-product of the right, I would suggest you read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. It's an eye-opener.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism

(https://voegelinview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Liberal-Fascism.jpg)
(https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/6435522_f520.jpg)
Title: Re: Define Fascism
Post by: milos on May 03, 2017, 07:38:26 PM
Well, originally, political right and left are dating from the French Revolution of 1789, when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left. So, in European monarchies of the 19th century, the political right were conservatives and monarchists, while the political left were revolutionaries and republicans. Many see dictators, like Mussolini and Hitler, as kind of kings. Hitler was an emperor of his Third Reich, and both Mussolini and Hitler are popularly seen as conservatives and nationalists, and so they are usually put to the political right. In America, right and left mean something different, for example, anarchism is commonly seen in Europe as a far left ideology, while in America it is on far right.
Title: Re: Define Fascism
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2017, 05:17:58 AM
Quote from: Ghoulardi on May 03, 2017, 07:01:59 PM
For those who think fascism is a by-product of the right, I would suggest you read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. It's an eye-opener.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism

(https://voegelinview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Liberal-Fascism.jpg)
(https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/6435522_f520.jpg)
Though the graph is close, anarchy falls on the extreme left, after all the rules of society breaks down, anarchy rules, at which point society begins to rebuild with a minimalist of govt, which is exactly what our Founders created, limited govt with the power vested in the people.
Johna is right in all aspects, I just wanted to point out, that a failed society is always the result of failed govt, so it never starts on the right, society begins fresh with a clean slate.
That's me, just being anal. :laugh:
Title: Re: Define Fascism
Post by: quiller on May 04, 2017, 05:45:57 AM
Those who control the schools control the minds of those who write the dictionaries and those who officially define right from wrong. Fascism begins in leftist classrooms learning garbage like the Sun does not cause global warming, only mankind. Oh---man isn't allowed now, it's WRONG to even think like that or you'll be punished.

Sho' 'nuff, bunk muffins.

Classrooms invented gender bias. Playground craziness, not allowing kids to burn off energy but instead play stupid sedentary games. You are male and therefore must be restrained and repurposed, else you will offend those married to ideology (and maybe a beta male).

Lunchroom craziness --- meals not fit to even feed a dog or a Muslim. Congress is picking up on that one. Maybe the illegals will start eating better at our expense. Maybe the other kids might, as well, but they don't matter. The educrats have ruled anybody but male Americans will count.

Title: Re: Define Fascism
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2017, 06:26:21 AM
Quote from: milos on May 03, 2017, 07:38:26 PM
Well, originally, political right and left are dating from the French Revolution of 1789, when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left. So, in European monarchies of the 19th century, the political right were conservatives and monarchists, while the political left were revolutionaries and republicans. Many see dictators, like Mussolini and Hitler, as kind of kings. Hitler was an emperor of his Third Reich, and both Mussolini and Hitler are popularly seen as conservatives and nationalists, and so they are usually put to the political right. In America, right and left mean something different, for example, anarchism is commonly seen in Europe as a far left ideology, while in America it is on far right.
Europe is all over the map where defining a system is concerned, but the best definition of Fascism is dictatorial rule, the opposite of a Republican form of govt, where laws are set in place to restrict governmental control, with an added bonus of a Bill of Rights, laws given to the people by the highest authority, God.
Title: Re: Define Fascism
Post by: je_freedom on May 04, 2017, 07:43:30 PM
Economists have always defined fascism as
   "a system where the means of production are
   privately owned, but government controlled."

Hitler and Mussolini ran fascist economies.
(As did FDR, while we're at it.)

The word "fascist" just sounds nasty,
so today's mis-educated youths
are being trained to believe it means
   "anybody we're supposed to hate" (i.e., conservatives).
Title: Re: Define Fascism
Post by: Fishman on May 04, 2017, 07:53:44 PM
Quote from: quiller on May 04, 2017, 05:45:57 AM
Those who control the schools control the minds of those who write the dictionaries and those who officially define right from wrong. Fascism begins in leftist classrooms learning garbage like the Sun does not cause global warming, only mankind. Oh---man isn't allowed now, it's WRONG to even think like that or you'll be punished.

Sho' 'nuff, bunk muffins.

Classrooms invented gender bias. Playground craziness, not allowing kids to burn off energy but instead play stupid sedentary games. You are male and therefore must be restrained and repurposed, else you will offend those married to ideology (and maybe a beta male).

Lunchroom craziness --- meals not fit to even feed a dog or a Muslim. Congress is picking up on that one. Maybe the illegals will start eating better at our expense. Maybe the other kids might, as well, but they don't matter. The educrats have ruled anybody but male Americans will count.

Couldn't agree with this post any more. Until we pull the rug out from under our current left wing indoctrination educations we are never going to be able to really implement change. The country is brain washed from these idiots starting at a very early age and it continues right through college and beyond. How can real change ever really happen without addressing how our children are educated in public schools?