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Debating liberals
« on: June 11, 2019, 08:10:29 PM »
A few techniques and approaches when dealing with libtards...

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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2019, 09:28:22 PM »
That triggered girl is everywhere.

I don't argue with Liberals in person. It's not worth the headache. Not going to change each other's minds and they will not have a respectful conversation either.
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2019, 09:29:20 PM »
That triggered girl is everywhere.

I don't argue with Liberals in person. It's not worth the headache. Not going to change each other's minds and they will not have a respectful conversation either.

It takes practice.
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 03:01:11 AM »
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You: "We need a wall to keep the bad people out."
NPC: "That's racist. You're a racist."
You: "That's not very nice."

You: "We need a wall to keep the bad people out."
NPC (Me):  Bad is to vague and general.  What does bad mean in this context?  Do you mean as those who committed crimes?  What criteria are we going by exactly?

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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 03:07:44 AM »
You: "Abortion is murder."
NPC: "What about a women who was raped? Should she be able to abort her baby?"
You: "No. That's murder."
NPC: "So, she shouldn't be able to choose what happens with her own body??"
You: "Yes, but not murder her baby."
NPC: "What if she doesn't want it?"
You: "Murdering it is not the answer."
NPC: "Ok, let's agree you're right and abortion is murder.  What is an alternative answer that you have that she should do if she doesn't want to raise the child and can't afford to raise the child?  Would you be willing to make adoption laws easier?  Would you be in support of artificial wombs and promote the science for them?  Maybe we can discuss all of this at Bar Taco while enjoying the tacos.  Maybe we can come up with some kick ass ideas.  "
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 03:18:37 AM »
You: "Is America the best country in the world?"
NPC: "There are other great countries."
You: "But is America the best one?"
NPC: "Best means greatest among all.   But, what makes a country great and what makes a country not so great?  Does economic prosperity alone determine greatness?  What about people having compassion for each other?  Point is, without a set criteria to go by your question is vague and meaningless.

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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2019, 03:26:24 AM »
This is the issue I have with these debates.  There are no agreed upon definitions and criteria as to what things are and what they mean.  Everything seems to meld into sloganized, abstract and generalized phrases and words that neither side agrees upon.

Like

What is opportunity?

What is bad?

What is capitalism

What is fascism?

so on and so forth

If both sides agreed to a.  agreed upon set of definitions and b.  set aside one's emotions I think things would be better.
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 05:05:19 AM »
You: "We need a wall to keep the bad people out."
NPC (Me):  Bad is to vague and general.  What does bad mean in this context?  Do you mean as those who committed crimes?  What criteria are we going by exactly?

Unlawful border crossing is a crime! (It's the law)

Why do you lock your car door.  Or your doors on your house at night and when your gone? 
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2019, 05:34:35 AM »
This is the issue I have with these debates.  There are no agreed upon definitions and criteria as to what things are and what they mean.  Everything seems to meld into sloganized, abstract and generalized phrases and words that neither side agrees upon.

Like

What is opportunity?

What is bad?

What is capitalism

What is fascism?

so on and so forth

If both sides agreed to a.  agreed upon set of definitions and b.  set aside one's emotions I think things would be better.
It's pretty simple really. As Conservatives, we don't want to have to think about our govt, it should simply exist and function as our Founders envisioned, .
When I was born, the Fed was of no consequence, politics was for DC, we'd elect Reps to go there, do their job in keeping govt small and out of our lives.
But leftists have managed to make virtually every topic known to man, political and the Fed was their weapon in creating more intrusive laws.
Hell, we used to ride in the back of pickup trucks, bring our guns to school, boys were boys and girls were an enigma, but we all happily fit in without a single complication or having to check your PC when you spoke.
There was no such nonsense as hate speech, hate crime, you didn't worry about misgendering, though most normal people don't give a fuck what people do in their own homes, and still don't accept it in public regardless of what the media tells us.
Point being, the left has no desires of compromise, so talking to them is a total waste of time, and people are getting really sick of their shit, so much so, people are starting to snap and take reformation into their own hands, which is just what the Marxists want, a complete breakdown of society so they can come in and save the day.
History proves me correct.

Now do you understand how the Marxists have been brainwashing kids as tools, useful idiots?

So if you think you're going to get emotional children to sit down and talk rationally, you are in for a huge shock.
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2019, 10:00:36 AM »
It's pretty simple really. As Conservatives, we don't want to have to think about our govt, it should simply exist and function as our Founders envisioned, .
When I was born, the Fed was of no consequence, politics was for DC, we'd elect Reps to go there, do their job in keeping govt small and out of our lives.
But leftists have managed to make virtually every topic known to man, political and the Fed was their weapon in creating more intrusive laws.
Hell, we used to ride in the back of pickup trucks, bring our guns to school, boys were boys and girls were an enigma, but we all happily fit in without a single complication or having to check your PC when you spoke.
There was no such nonsense as hate speech, hate crime, you didn't worry about misgendering, though most normal people don't give a fuck what people do in their own homes, and still don't accept it in public regardless of what the media tells us.
Point being, the left has no desires of compromise, so talking to them is a total waste of time, and people are getting really sick of their shit, so much so, people are starting to snap and take reformation into their own hands, which is just what the Marxists want, a complete breakdown of society so they can come in and save the day.
History proves me correct.

Now do you understand how the Marxists have been brainwashing kids as tools, useful idiots?

So if you think you're going to get emotional children to sit down and talk rationally, you are in for a huge shock.

a.  I've ridden in the back of a pick-up when I was a kid when we had to move.   Pretty scary at first but when one gets used to it, it actually was fun. 

b.  I would've loved to talk to Kaitlin Bennet about alternatives to abortion.  Like if a woman doesn't feel like she can deal with raising the kid then place the child up for adoption.  And, maybe eventually develop tech so a woman doesn't have to carry the child for 9 months if she is to emotionally disturbed by it like artificial wombs.  Or, can surrogate mothers be used like transfer the fetus from the original mom to a new mom?  Is that possible?  And, come up with tech that can decrease costs.

c.  As for emotional children I can understand what you're saying.  I've gotten better about having meltdowns but when I get into a meltdown mode it's difficult to budge me at all.   When a person gets extremely upset or emotional they won't listen to anyone or anything.  I know.  Been there!  Done that!   It makes a person rigid in his thinking and gives him tunnel vision.

d.  https://www.facebook.com/Dieseltec/   I don't agree with everything he says.   He made a comment about him not wanting to see two dudes being affectionate at his shop.  All hell broke loose.  The homosexual community started vandalizing his shop.  Truth is, it is his shop.  He is the owner.  He makes the rules and sets the tone.  If I was a homosexual I simply would say ok, it's your shop, and then move on to a different business who would take my money. 

e.  Point to everything is there has to be better ways to handle things then politically or through the gov't.   

f.  Hasn't communism been tried?  Hasn't it failed everywhere it has been tried?  Why keep doing something that fails consistently?  The only places communist like setups work is small villages or communes.

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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2019, 10:04:47 AM »
Unlawful border crossing is a crime! (It's the law)

Why do you lock your car door.  Or your doors on your house at night and when your gone?

I get what you're saying.  Bad as in doing a crime against you.

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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2019, 02:48:57 PM »
You: "We need a wall to keep the bad people out."
NPC (Me):  Bad is to vague and general.  What does bad mean in this context?  Do you mean as those who committed crimes?  What criteria are we going by exactly?


 Me:  "bad" is a MFkr like this:

http://www.hideoutnow.com/2019/04/illegal-immigrant-previously-deported-5.html

Or this:

http://www.kurv.com/illegal-border-crosser-found-with-molotov-cocktail/




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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2019, 02:56:25 PM »
You: "Is America the best country in the world?"
NPC: "There are other great countries."
You: "But is America the best one?"
NPC: "Best means greatest among all.   But, what makes a country great and what makes a country not so great?  Does economic prosperity alone determine greatness?  What about people having compassion for each other?  Point is, without a set criteria to go by your question is vague and meaningless.


Me:  YES America is the greatest country in the world.....I've been in about 30 other countries and beleive me....they suck, any who disagree with me should try living or working in one, preferably some 3rd world socialist hell hole for about a year ad whe they come to the realization how lucky they were to be born an American then they can join the debate with an informed opinion.
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2019, 02:58:25 PM »
You: "Abortion is murder."
NPC: "What about a women who was raped? Should she be able to abort her baby?"
You: "No. That's murder."
NPC: "So, she shouldn't be able to choose what happens with her own body??"
You: "Yes, but not murder her baby."
NPC: "What if she doesn't want it?"
You: "Murdering it is not the answer."
NPC: "Ok, let's agree you're right and abortion is murder.  What is an alternative answer that you have that she should do if she doesn't want to raise the child and can't afford to raise the child?  Would you be willing to make adoption laws easier?  Would you be in support of artificial wombs and promote the science for them?  Maybe we can discuss all of this at Bar Taco while enjoying the tacos.  Maybe we can come up with some kick ass ideas.  "

Me:   Rape is a crime, ....So is Murder  (Abortion)  why compound one crime with another
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Re: Debating liberals
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2019, 03:36:48 PM »
Anybody who doesn't think America is great should be banned from it. You can't bite the hand that feeds you by using the freedoms of America to shit on it.
Social Media are multi-national billion dollar corporations with foreign investors that are going unchecked with the power to effect our election process.

"Book burnings" have evolved into "de-plat forming". Its the same principles behind both: to eliminate accessible knowledge.

 

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