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Title: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 10:57:23 AM
I couldn't agree more with this article. Certainly Trump couldn't be naive enough to think that just because Congressmen have an R by their names that they were going to go along with Rino Ryan?  It would seem that Trump didn't care what was in the bill as long as it passed. Not good.  Not good at all.  If Gorsuch isn't confirmed that will be two major, major strikes against him.  I can't help but think that perhaps my original thought of Trump empowering the people he supposedly opposed has been his intent all along.

Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?

..."In the first major test of "the Republican agenda," Speaker Paul Ryan presented an horrendous health care bill that completely neglected to fulfill your promise to repeal Obamacare.

In its next test, the upcoming budget fight, Republicans in Congress are communicating that border wall funds will not be included in the continuing resolution. And those cuts to government spending you proposed, Mr. President? Republicans are attacking them to defend their favorite pet government programs....

...The Freedom Caucus members are your allies. They are the anti-establishment lawmakers that actually want to change the way Washington D.C. works, just like you campaigned, Mr. President.

And you're attacking them. In doing so, you are empowering the people you incessantly claimed were the problem. You are breaking your promise to drain the swamp.

You are becoming the establishment you said you would oppose.

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/dear-president-trump-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you#sthash.KoBMFT5t.dpuf
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 10:57:23 AM
I couldn't agree more with this article. Certainly Trump couldn't be naive enough to think that just because Congressmen have an R by their names that they were going to go along with Rino Ryan?  It would seem that Trump didn't care what was in the bill as long as it passed. Not good.  Not good at all.  If Gorsuch isn't confirmed that will be two major, major strikes against him.  I can't help but think that perhaps my original thought of Trump empowering the people he supposedly opposed has been his intent all along.

Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?

..."In the first major test of "the Republican agenda," Speaker Paul Ryan presented an horrendous health care bill that completely neglected to fulfill your promise to repeal Obamacare.

In its next test, the upcoming budget fight, Republicans in Congress are communicating that border wall funds will not be included in the continuing resolution. And those cuts to government spending you proposed, Mr. President? Republicans are attacking them to defend their favorite pet government programs....

...The Freedom Caucus members are your allies. They are the anti-establishment lawmakers that actually want to change the way Washington D.C. works, just like you campaigned, Mr. President.

And you're attacking them. In doing so, you are empowering the people you incessantly claimed were the problem. You are breaking your promise to drain the swamp.

You are becoming the establishment you said you would oppose.

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/dear-president-trump-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you#sthash.KoBMFT5t.dpuf

They tried to repeal it.  But were forced to change it cause the American people hated the original version.

The American people want more federal coverage, not left.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Bronx on March 30, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 11:30:54 AM
They tried to repeal it.  But were forced to change it cause the American people hated the original version.

The American people want more federal coverage, not left.

There you go again with your friggin lies. I told you about that bullshit didn't I...?

Why do you come in here and lie so much...? Do you seek the attention from your lies...?

Trumpcare was never about repeal if was about replace. It failed because us Conservatives saved you liberal democrats and big government republicans from Trumpcare.

About your rant that most people want more federal coverage...Go to the a Veterans Hospital and tell me how that "federal coverage" is working.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Hoofer on March 30, 2017, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 10:57:23 AM

Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?

...The Freedom Caucus members are your allies. They are the anti-establishment lawmakers that actually want to change the way Washington D.C. works, just like you campaigned, Mr. President.

And you're attacking them. In doing so, you are empowering the people you incessantly claimed were the problem. You are breaking your promise to drain the swamp.

You are becoming the establishment you said you would oppose.

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/dear-president-trump-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you#sthash.KoBMFT5t.dpuf

Quite a plan, what I feared the most.    Throw the Conservatives a few bones, roll back a few executive orders - but, savage the Republicans, Conservatives, etc., because you never believed all that crap anyways.   Govern with a typical Leftist style, trade executive orders, just make a few (very public and well publicized) moves, talking points, and let it all flounder.... blame the party, which you were never really apart of.   Turn left and hit the gas, petal to the metal.

What are the odds of Neil Gorsuch getting on the  SCOTUS...?   They just backed him up a week, so that means he might not get a vote now?   

Has anyone else noticed the Executive Orders are not necessarily being scratched?   I haven't seen the actual wording, but we've all heard President Trump say, several times, 'I am ordering this agency to PROVIDE RELIEF .... ' - is that the way it works, the EO isn't scratched off the books, repealed, "provide relief"....?    During one of the broadcasts, I said, "what did he say...?    I thought those Obama EOs were going away, what's this "relief" business he's talking about...   What happened to REPEAL?   Does this mean the original EO stands and is "enforced a little nicer"?  I hope I'm dead wrong about the way I'm hearing this.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: Bronx on March 30, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
There you go again with your friggin lies. I told you about that bullshit didn't I...?

Why do you come in here and lie so much...? Do you seek the attention from your lies...?

Trumpcare was never about repeal if was about replace. It failed because us Conservatives saved you liberal democrats and big government republicans from Trumpcare.

About your rant that most people want more federal coverage...Go to the a Veterans Hospital and tell me how that "federal coverage" is working.

What a mornic statement.   Go to a million hospitals and tell me how private care is working.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Bronx on March 30, 2017, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
What a mornic statement.   Go to a million hospitals and tell me how private care is working.

Hey fruitcake you states the people wanted more government in their healthcare I sent you to The VA and now you send me to private hospital. The feds don't run the private hospital but they do run the VA you moron.

Move away from the Oxycontin dumbass.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: taxed on March 30, 2017, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 11:30:54 AM
They tried to repeal it.  But were forced to change it cause the American people hated the original version.
No they didn't.

QuoteThe American people want more federal coverage, not left.

Huh?
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: taxed on March 30, 2017, 01:55:42 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
What a mornic statement.   Go to a million hospitals and tell me how private care is working.

It works great!  That's why people from other countries come here to siphon ours.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 06:14:33 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 30, 2017, 12:01:58 PM
Quite a plan, what I feared the most.    Throw the Conservatives a few bones, roll back a few executive orders - but, savage the Republicans, Conservatives, etc., because you never believed all that crap anyways.   Govern with a typical Leftist style, trade executive orders, just make a few (very public and well publicized) moves, talking points, and let it all flounder.... blame the party, which you were never really apart of.   Turn left and hit the gas, petal to the metal.

What are the odds of Neil Gorsuch getting on the  SCOTUS...?   They just backed him up a week, so that means he might not get a vote now?   

Has anyone else noticed the Executive Orders are not necessarily being scratched?   I haven't seen the actual wording, but we've all heard President Trump say, several times, 'I am ordering this agency to PROVIDE RELIEF .... ' - is that the way it works, the EO isn't scratched off the books, repealed, "provide relief"....?    During one of the broadcasts, I said, "what did he say...?    I thought those Obama EOs were going away, what's this "relief" business he's talking about...   What happened to REPEAL?   Does this mean the original EO stands and is "enforced a little nicer"?  I hope I'm dead wrong about the way I'm hearing this.

Nope.  I'm looking at things the same way.  Flynn is gone.  Sessions has recused himself.  What about the rest of Trump's cabinet?? I haven't heard of any more appointments.  I too thought the Trump was going to rescind all of Bammy's E.O.  Yes, then he sided with Ryan on tweaking the existing healthcare plan rather than repeal.  Ryan supposedly is now saying repeal, but Trump is vowing to go after the Freedom Caucus!  So ... what the heck??  As for Gorsuch, my hunch is there won't be enough votes to nuke him through.  Funding for the wall is being stalled. So at this moment; no wall, no repeal and no conservative justice.  Meanwhile ... Trump/Putin are being investigated for tampering with the election and Flynn is willing to testify if granted immunity! 
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: taxed on March 30, 2017, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 06:14:33 PM
Nope.  I'm looking at things the same way.  Flynn is gone.  Sessions has recused himself.  What about the rest of Trump's cabinet?? I haven't heard of any more appointments.  I too thought the Trump was going to rescind all of Bammy's E.O.  Yes, then he sided with Ryan on tweaking the existing healthcare plan rather than repeal.  Ryan supposedly is now saying repeal, but Trump is vowing to go after the Freedom Caucus!  So ... what the heck??  As for Gorsuch, my hunch is there won't be enough votes to nuke him through.  Funding for the wall is being stalled. So at this moment; no wall, no repeal and no conservative justice.  Meanwhile ... Trump/Putin are being investigated for tampering with the election and Flynn is willing to testify if granted immunity!

It's bumpy right now....
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: taxed on March 30, 2017, 06:16:33 PM
It's bumpy right now....

I think 'bumpy' is an understatement ... and my big question is ... "what if Trump is actually found to have tampered somehow with the election?  Does anyone know if Clinton could possibly come back into the picture?
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: taxed on March 30, 2017, 06:57:16 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 06:32:31 PM
I think 'bumpy' is an understatement ... and my big question is ... "what if Trump is actually found to have tampered somehow with the election?  Does anyone know if Clinton could possibly come back into the picture?

It's like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nhxm5QEbYI
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 07:38:14 PM
Thanks for the video!   Brace for impact ....
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: zewazir on March 30, 2017, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 06:32:31 PM
I think 'bumpy' is an understatement ... and my big question is ... "what if Trump is actually found to have tampered somehow with the election?  Does anyone know if Clinton could possibly come back into the picture?
I have no fear they will find anything. The Russians were not involved, except perhaps a bit of rhetoric here and there, nothing of which changed any minds one way or the other. The so-called hacks have already been debunked, and the Clinton info released came from domestic sources. The only evidence available, and/or charges filed relating to vote fraud is against the dims.

It's all smoke and mirrors. The progs are spinning like tops to explain how they lost an election that was predicted to end in a foregone conclusion. Heck, you look at our own threads prior to the election and the majority here were anticipating Clinton finishing the job of destruction began decades ago and accelerated under Obama. The arrogance of progs is unlimited. Even now they cannot admit to themselves, let alone the rest of the world they LOST because people are deciding they don't want a nanny state tyranny.

Over 1000 legislative seats in the states gone over to 'Pubs, 9 governor seats, and they lost both houses of the U.S. congress. But somehow losing the presidency is a fluke brought about by trump colluding with external influences?  HAH!  The entirety of the demoncrap progressive faction is as delusional as a certain recent poster on this forum.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
What a mornic statement.   Go to a million hospitals and tell me how private care is working.

Your statement is moronic!  Seriously?  Go to a million hospitals??  There are only 5,564 U.S. registered hospitals.  You really need to get a grip on spouting off your b.s. and then turning around and calling someone else's statements moronic.  Seems like the only moronic statements come for you.

http://www.aha.org/research/rc/stat-studies/fast-facts.shtml

https://www.statista.com/statistics/185843/number-of-all-hospitals-in-the-us-since-2001/
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: quiller on March 30, 2017, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 30, 2017, 06:32:31 PM
I think 'bumpy' is an understatement ... and my big question is ... "what if Trump is actually found to have tampered somehow with the election?  Does anyone know if Clinton could possibly come back into the picture?

Only if a depleted Supreme Court commits supreme treason. At best both Donks and Democrats-Lite will have to agree on a do-over election. That should drag it out to 2029.
Title: Re: Dear President Trump: What the hell is wrong with you?
Post by: supsalemgr on March 31, 2017, 05:09:26 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
What a mornic statement.   Go to a million hospitals and tell me how private care is working.

When was the last time you needed any service from a private hospital?