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General Category => Financial => Topic started by: walkstall on March 27, 2016, 10:05:40 AM

Title: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: walkstall on March 27, 2016, 10:05:40 AM
Wow! a year, that will keep them in business.  :rolleyes:  California just will not be out done by the Seattle area.   

"Businesses with fewer than 25 employees would have an extra year to comply."



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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — California legislators and labor unions on Saturday reached an agreement that will take the state's minimum wage from $10 to $15 an hour, a state senator said, a move that would make for the largest statewide minimum in the nation by far.

Sen. Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, told The Associated Press the proposal would go before the Legislature as part of his minimum-wage bill that stalled last year.


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The Los Angeles Times, which first reported the deal, said the wage would rise to $10.50 in 2017, with subsequent increases to take it to $15 by 2022. Businesses with fewer than 25 employees would have an extra year to comply.

more @
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/deal-reached-raise-california-minimum-wage-15-hour-senator-says-n546131
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Dori on March 27, 2016, 10:13:50 AM
More businesses will leave and there will be higher unemployment.  CA government is liberal and stupid. 
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: walkstall on March 27, 2016, 10:31:03 AM
Quote from: Dori on March 27, 2016, 10:13:50 AM
More businesses will leave and there will be higher unemployment.  CA government is liberal and stupid.

Will not be the first or last time for CA.  Hello Texas were from California and we have come to set up shop. 
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Dori on March 27, 2016, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 27, 2016, 10:31:03 AM
Will not be the first or last time for CA.  Hello Texas were from California and we have come to set up shop.

The saying around here is; "if you want a California job, move to Texas".

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: walkstall on March 27, 2016, 10:51:21 AM
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Quote from: Dori on March 27, 2016, 10:34:44 AM
The saying around here is; "if you want a California job, move to Texas".

:rolleyes:

Lets hope only Conservative move to Texas, they have problems of there own. 
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: supsalemgr on March 27, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
What impact will this have on food prices? CA produces much of the country's produce.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Dori on March 27, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 27, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
What impact will this have on food prices? CA produces much of the country's produce.

We've already lost a lot of farms because of Sacramento cutting off the water.  They would rather protect the Delta Smelt. 

I don't know if there would be a big change regarding agriculture.  They have different labor standards, as some laborers are also provided housing/food as part of their pay.

Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: daidalos on March 27, 2016, 01:02:18 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 27, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
What impact will this have on food prices? CA produces much of the country's produce.
The impact it will have is this.

The price you pay for a bunch of grapes, is going to go through the roof overnight.

And it's not just with agro like that either.

It's wines, of various sorts too.

Anything produced in CAL will cost so much, other states will start looking elsewhere.

As will companies. Shortly thereafter, California's entire economy will be like that of Detroit.



Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on March 27, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
The final nail in the coffin.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: TXborn on March 27, 2016, 01:36:32 PM
Well, if those liberal progressive wackos are going to bring their politics down here to TEXAS, then we don't want them coming here; move to Nevada which caters more to their brand of society -- & where all forms of legalized gambling & prostitution are the norm rather than the exception.
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As per raising the minimum wage to $15/hr, it will only lead to spiraling inflation until which time either thing rises proportionally to the next level, where entitlement expenditures will rise but where senior citizens won't see the same degree of increase, if any at all except a COLA (cost of living adjustment) which under the Obama regime has only allowed two such COLAs..!!
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: kit saginaw on March 27, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
California's Carl's Jr. (and Hardee's) restaurants just moved their corporate HQ to Nashville, Tennessee... which was kind of an eye-opener.

No word on the individual franchises, but that company was like a California mainstay.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/03/10/carls-jr-headquarters-moving-calif-nashville-orange-county-register

Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on March 27, 2016, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 27, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
California's Carl's Jr. (and Hardee's) restaurants just moved their corporate HQ to Nashville, Tennessee... which was kind of an eye-opener.

No word on the individual franchises, but that company was like a California mainstay.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/03/10/carls-jr-headquarters-moving-calif-nashville-orange-county-register

Franchisees in California will get hammered unless they are very busy enough to absorb the wage increase. Idiot leftists don't realize franchisees don't have the financial backing of the corporation.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2016, 06:58:56 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 27, 2016, 03:58:59 PM
Franchisees in California will get hammered unless they are very busy enough to absorb the wage increase. Idiot leftists don't realize franchisees don't have the financial backing of the corporation.
It gets worse, everything will cost more, considerably more.
Toy and I are going back to Idaho to have another look for land, we're finally bailing on Ca.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on March 27, 2016, 07:27:30 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2016, 06:58:56 PM
It gets worse, everything will cost more, considerably more.
Toy and I are going back to Idaho to have another look for land, we're finally bailing on Ca.

You shouldn't have any trouble finding land. There are only seven people in the whole state. Coincidentally all named Kevin.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: walkstall on March 27, 2016, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 27, 2016, 07:27:30 PM
You shouldn't have any trouble finding land. There are only seven people in the whole state. Coincidentally all named Kevin.

:lol: Well I do did have some Aunts and Uncles that live there. But they long gone.   They had some offspring running around some place in Idaho. 
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: supsalemgr on March 28, 2016, 04:07:28 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 27, 2016, 03:58:59 PM
Franchisees in California will get hammered unless they are very busy enough to absorb the wage increase. Idiot leftists don't realize franchisees don't have the financial backing of the corporation.

Boo, liberals don't care what happens to the franchisees. They just cannot connect the dots that these folks HIRE people.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2016, 04:35:08 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 28, 2016, 04:07:28 AM
Boo, liberals don't care what happens to the franchisees. They just cannot connect the dots that these folks HIRE people.
Franchise to a lib means corporation which means evil and must be destroyed.
Libs just don't understand business...
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: walkstall on March 28, 2016, 04:39:40 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 28, 2016, 04:07:28 AM
Boo, liberals don't care what happens to the franchisees. They just cannot connect the dots that these folks HIRE people.


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Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Jasmine on March 28, 2016, 04:51:56 PM
The question I have is, Why does government have the right to dictate to private business owners how much they should pay their employees? Why doesn't someone challenge this obvious abuse of the Constitution?

I don't care if the minimum wage is $15 or $2. There shouldn't even be a government-mandated minimum wage.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on March 28, 2016, 05:00:39 PM
Quote from: Jasmine on March 28, 2016, 04:51:56 PM
The question I have is, Why does government have the right to dictate to private business owners how much they should pay their employees? Why doesn't someone challenge this obvious abuse of the Constitution?

I don't care if the minimum wage is $15 or $2. There shouldn't even be a government-mandated minimum wage.

No The government cannot tell a private business what to pay it's employees.There is also a legal precedent where a policy is discriminatory and therefore illegal  if it disproportionately adversely affects a particular  group of people. Minimum wage adversely affects blacks more than any other group. Therefore it is unconstitutional. The precedent is a court case in Texas involving the Fair Housing Act. I'm not too familiar with the specifics though.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Hoofer on March 28, 2016, 07:17:57 PM
Quote from: walkstall on March 28, 2016, 04:39:40 AM

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Beat me to it!!!!

The next boom in California, beginning of the Robotic Revolution. 
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: walkstall on March 28, 2016, 07:27:22 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 28, 2016, 07:17:57 PM
Beat me to it!!!!

The next boom in California, beginning of the Robotic Revolution. 



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Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: colt4 on September 25, 2017, 08:46:55 PM
One wonders if higher minimum wages will reduce costs and encourage people to start
businesses.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on September 25, 2017, 09:10:46 PM
Say hello to unemployment, kids.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: walkstall on September 25, 2017, 09:18:07 PM
Quote from: colt4 on September 25, 2017, 08:46:55 PM
One wonders if higher minimum wages will reduce costs and encourage people to start
businesses.

Me think's ford is back with his one liners.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: colt4 on September 25, 2017, 09:18:58 PM
Link removed. 

This poster has be ban for the third time.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on September 25, 2017, 10:39:03 PM
Romper room kids try and fail again....
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: supsalemgr on September 26, 2017, 04:57:46 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 25, 2017, 09:10:46 PM
Say hello to unemployment, kids.

I saw a blurb yesterday that Target will have $15 minimum wage by 2020. The question now is will they still be in business in 2020. Brick and mortar retailers are already kicking their asses kicked by Amazon. Somehow, raising labor costs does not equate to being more competitive.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Ms.Independence on September 26, 2017, 05:11:19 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 26, 2017, 04:57:46 AM
I saw a blurb yesterday that Target will have $15 minimum wage by 2020. The question now is will they still be in business in 2020. Brick and mortar retailers are already kicking their asses kicked by Amazon. Somehow, raising labor costs does not equate to being more competitive.

Target is a great example.  I try not to purchase anything from there because of their stance on transgender bathrooms, but I was in there recently due to the store being more convenient and they have converted over as many retailers to self-check out.  I absolutely refuse; for one, their system won't allow me to write a check.  You have to use either cash/coin or credit/debit.

So...in essence they maybe raising their wages to $15 ... but they are also trimming their workforce.  I think soon we will see robots lining the shelves as well, so I'm not sure what minimum wage jobs will actually be left. 
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Lea on December 05, 2017, 12:43:23 PM
Those businesses that are able to survive the increasing MW are finding that it is attracting older more qualified and experienced workers. No longer are many of these positions available to the young, first time job seekers. So when your young son or daughter can't get that Summer job, you can thank our Liberal California leaders.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Possum on December 12, 2017, 05:15:10 AM
Quote from: Lea on December 05, 2017, 12:43:23 PM
Those businesses that are able to survive the increasing MW are finding that it is attracting older more qualified and experienced workers. No longer are many of these positions available to the young, first time job seekers. So when your young son or daughter can't get that Summer job, you can thank our Liberal California leaders.
Or......., California could ban illegals, send them back, and the "minimum wage" would rise on its own without government interference. First time job seekers would find a wide range of jobs available, and those with skills would find jobs that pay more also. AND, California could save $. WELL, we damn sure don't want that. Instead, raise minimum wage artificially and see how many small businesses we can put out of business.

And liberals think they know soooo much.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: supsalemgr on December 12, 2017, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: s3779m on December 12, 2017, 05:15:10 AM
Or......., California could ban illegals, send them back, and the "minimum wage" would rise on its own without government interference. First time job seekers would find a wide range of jobs available, and those with skills would find jobs that pay more also. AND, California could save $. WELL, we damn sure don't want that. Instead, raise minimum wage artificially and see how many small businesses we can put out of business.

And liberals think they know soooo much.

So true. Here in WNC our econmy is good and there is a demand for employees. I dropped by our local Chick-fil-A a few days ago and saw a sign about hiring. Was offering $13 an hour. That is almost twice the MW.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Solar on December 12, 2017, 09:40:27 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 12, 2017, 09:22:19 AM
So true. Here in WNC our econmy is good and there is a demand for employees. I dropped by our local Chick-fil-A a few days ago and saw a sign about hiring. Was offering $13 an hour. That is almost twice the MW.
Oddly enough, here in Ca, $15.0 is the going wage in most of the state already, so in truth, a min wage to match is nothing more than a nothing burger.
This is just a typical leftist tactic, calling for something people are already receiving.
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Hoofer on January 19, 2018, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 12, 2017, 09:40:27 AM
Oddly enough, here in Ca, $15.0 is the going wage in most of the state already, so in truth, a min wage to match is nothing more than a nothing burger.
This is just a typical leftist tactic, calling for something people are already receiving.

Hobby Lobby has a sign in the store, with applications below it, "Starting Wage $15.70 per hr."
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Solar on January 19, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on January 19, 2018, 06:40:38 PM
Hobby Lobby has a sign in the store, with applications below it, "Starting Wage $15.70 per hr."
My very first job, the MW was $1.25 an hour. I had figured out that by the end of summer I would have enough saved to buy a bike, that was until I got my first check,p I was soooo pissed, I told my dad that I had been ripped off by my boss, he said, yes you were, but it wasn't your boss, it was the govt. He said let this be a lesson in taxes and why you'll be fighting to keep govt as small as possible.

Man, has govt grown like cancer since then. I just hope kids today can look back and be proud of a much smaller govt we gave them. (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: Deal Reached to Raise California Minimum Wage to $15/Hour, Senator Says
Post by: Hoofer on January 20, 2018, 05:46:08 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 19, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
My very first job, the MW was $1.25 an hour. I had figured out that by the end of summer I would have enough saved to buy a bike, that was until I got my first check,p I was soooo pissed, I told my dad that I had been ripped off by my boss, he said, yes you were, but it wasn't your boss, it was the govt. He said let this be a lesson in taxes and why you'll be fighting to keep govt as small as possible.

Man, has govt grown like cancer since then. I just hope kids today can look back and be proud of a much smaller govt we gave them. (fingers crossed)

My first job was $0.35 per hour.   Easy to remember, because it took over 10 hours of work to fill the gas tank on my little car... which was about $0.30 a gallon at the time.   By the end of the work week, I had enough money to go downhill skiing and afford a lift ticket with a few snacks.  I found my original Bank Savings Passbook I had as a kid, it said I had less than $10 in it, so I went to the bank, and they had closed the account - decades ago.   Guess I was foolish to think $8.50 might have grown into a cool million... well, not for me at least.

So minimum wage has effectively DOUBLED in the last ten years.  However, in the last 20 years, my hourly wage falls far short of that.  But, my electric rate has doubled, even though fuel costs have gone up and come back down... what's with that?