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Started by KSimos, September 23, 2017, 08:46:50 AM

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KSimos

There seems to be great confusion and unanswered speculation over Trump's excursion into Democratic camp but there shouldn't be.

Despite the crude revelations and vulgar behavior, people continue to over rate him and what a rudimentary creature he really is. Not so
Nancy Pelosi; she knows very well, l what he is and why he's sitting across from her.

Trump's ire over failure of the leadership to deliver a healthcare replacement, wasn't bitter disappointment, it was fear. He believed incorrectly,
that action by the special council was imminent. Trump was desperate for any political bulwark that could protect him and his very clumsy entourage
from pending disaster.

He has at last, found what he needs, a deal. Nancy Pelosi can indeed, make him impervious to removal. In return, he will deliver DACA without strings, as a sop. With his 35% and her entire caucus, it's a tidy deal.

Once Trump is protected, he can pardon anyone who could testify against him. But what he's entered into isn't a partnership at all, it's a lease
agreement. The protection ends with the payments. He's over matched on a one way street.

Solar

Quote from: KSimos on September 23, 2017, 08:46:50 AM
There seems to be great confusion and unanswered speculation over Trump's excursion into Democratic camp but there shouldn't be.

Despite the crude revelations and vulgar behavior, people continue to over rate him and what a rudimentary creature he really is. Not so
Nancy Pelosi; she knows very well, l what he is and why he's sitting across from her.

Trump's ire over failure of the leadership to deliver a healthcare replacement, wasn't bitter disappointment, it was fear. He believed incorrectly,
that action by the special council was imminent. Trump was desperate for any political bulwark that could protect him and his very clumsy entourage
from pending disaster.

He has at last, found what he needs, a deal. Nancy Pelosi can indeed, make him impervious to removal. In return, he will deliver DACA without strings, as a sop. With his 35% and her entire caucus, it's a tidy deal.

Once Trump is protected, he can pardon anyone who could testify against him. But what he's entered into isn't a partnership at all, it's a lease
agreement. The protection ends with the payments. He's over matched on a one way street.
I see a lot of words, not once making any connection to reality, or credentialed with fact, only speculation.
I'd love to see your evidence that he faced impeachment and not just the rhetoric of sore losers. Your belief that the Dim party even carried such power is in itself laughable, or your reach with alluding to assuming the gop'E would even consider supporting such nonsense when they worked so hard to keep Cruz from winning the election.
No, the gop'E got the Dim they wanted and they're not about to screw that up at this point in the game.

You claim Trump was angry at the Establishment RINO, I don't see that in the least, he made a very calculated move in "Using" the Dims to show the gop'E Leadership they don't have the leverage they think they have.
No, he pretty much flipped the Pubs off when they tried to force him into accepting a bad deal, one that would have forced Trump to go back on campaign promises.

Keep in mind, For Trump, this isn't about ideals or values, it's a chess game of power and Trump just put the Establishment in Check, and now we have McStain siding with the Dims to kill off the Establishments Commiecare lite Bill?
You do realize, the gop'E is in a world of hurt, in that they have now cemented the label of a "Do Nothing Congress", and for them, that's a huge ass Scarlety Letter of shame.
For us Conservatives, it's a pure win, because now the real fees will kick in that Commiecare was based on,  which exposes just who these two party's work for and it's not the American electorate.
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walkstall

I was about ready to put his post in the Conspiracy Forum, but I will hold off for now.  Like you Solar would like seeing some facts back up his post. 

But his first two post look like Lib hit and run posts.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: walkstall on September 23, 2017, 10:09:07 AM
I was about ready to put his post in the Conspiracy Forum, but I will hold off for now.  Like you Solar would like seeing some facts back up his post. 

But his first two post look like Lib hit and run posts.
If he doesn't come back by next Friday to defend this BS, just boot his ass, we have enough cowardly libs unwilling to defend their ignorant nonsense as it is.
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supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on September 23, 2017, 09:43:20 AM
I see a lot of words, not once making any connection to reality, or credentialed with fact, only speculation.
I'd love to see your evidence that he faced impeachment and not just the rhetoric of sore losers. Your belief that the Dim party even carried such power is in itself laughable, or your reach with alluding to assuming the gop'E would even consider supporting such nonsense when they worked so hard to keep Cruz from winning the election.
No, the gop'E got the Dim they wanted and they're not about to screw that up at this point in the game.

You claim Trump was angry at the Establishment RINO, I don't see that in the least, he made a very calculated move in "Using" the Dims to show the gop'E Leadership they don't have the leverage they think they have.
No, he pretty much flipped the Pubs off when they tried to force him into accepting a bad deal, one that would have forced Trump to go back on campaign promises.

Keep in mind, For Trump, this isn't about ideals or values, it's a chess game of power and Trump just put the Establishment in Check, and now we have McStain siding with the Dims to kill off the Establishments Commiecare lite Bill?
You do realize, the gop'E is in a world of hurt, in that they have now cemented the label of a "Do Nothing Congress", and for them, that's a huge ass Scarlety Letter of shame.
For us Conservatives, it's a pure win, because now the real fees will kick in that Commiecare was based on,  which exposes just who these two party's work for and it's not the American electorate.

You beat me to it. It was a typical Anti-Trump rant without connecting any dots.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 23, 2017, 10:48:52 AM
You beat me to it. It was a typical Anti-Trump rant without connecting any dots.
I don't know why they even bother posting here, we're not Trump supporters persay, which gives us a rather unique unbiased perspective, especially when one considers the real enemy is neither Trump nor the Dims, but our own party, the Marxist Establishment RNC/gop'E.
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Hoofer

Quote from: KSimos on September 23, 2017, 08:46:50 AM
There seems to be great confusion and unanswered speculation over Trump's excursion into Democratic camp but there shouldn't be.
Yes, we can see you are quite confused, but *who* has speculated?   When did Donald Trump become a politician?

QuoteDespite the crude revelations and vulgar behavior, people continue to over rate him and what a rudimentary creature he really is.
I gotta hand it to Donald Trump - there is absolutely NO QUESTION about his sexuality, when I consider the last President (or his wife).
Yeah, he strikes fear into the hearts of Liberals, but on the other hand, he's provided a HUGE economic boost to the head shrinker's.. eh?

QuoteNot so Nancy Pelosi; she knows very well, l what he is and why he's sitting across from her.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Pelosi thinks Trump is BUSH!!!   Was your head planted in the sand, or up your butt?  Here ya go...


QuoteTrump's ire over failure of the leadership to deliver a healthcare replacement, wasn't bitter disappointment, it was fear.
Mind reader, are you?    Ohmmmm.... My dog's IQ exceeds yours, and you're habitually polluting the environment and feel zero guilt about it.   Your fear is premature ejac... nevermind... he's been seeing someone else, oppsie! 

QuoteHe believed incorrectly,  that action by the special council was imminent. Trump was desperate for any political bulwark that could protect him and his very clumsy entourage from pending disaster.
Really...?   Have you listened to a Trump speech lately?   He just punched UN leftists in the cranium, and left them reeling in the dust.   Are you a computer, or one of those sex toys looking for a Liberal to play with?

QuoteHe has at last, found what he needs, a deal. Nancy Pelosi can indeed, make him impervious to removal. In return, he will deliver DACA without strings, as a sop. With his 35% and her entire caucus, it's a tidy deal.
Pelosi is still dealing with the president a decade ago!   :ttoung:  Botox on the brain, she's a real 'treat' to behold, eh?   The gift to the GOP that keeps on delivering, one out-to-lunch line after another.   Oh, sorry, I forgot she's YOUR heroine. <snicker>

QuoteOnce Trump is protected, he can pardon anyone who could testify against him. But what he's entered into isn't a partnership at all, it's a lease agreement. The protection ends with the payments. He's over matched on a one way street.
Wait a sec... you're suggesting Nancy Pelosi has outmatched George Bush, right?  OIK... ok... I'll give you that one.  Neither of us can remember that epic battle a decade ago - can you refresh me, please?

But there's that one line, "...Trump is protected, he can pardon anyone who could testify against him" - WTF...?   
Why would you pardon someone that's testifying AGAINST you?  Wait a sec...

Nancy..?   NANCY!?   Is that you, Nancy!   Why you sneaky little devil, you must have been quite a hoot before electricity!!!
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