Trump Vindicated: Report Says Obama Regime Wiretapped Trump Campaign

Started by Solar, September 19, 2017, 06:02:38 AM

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Solar

You'll love the spin by these leftists. It's not the crime perpetrated by Marxists, but the seriousness of their allegations.

US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html
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Something weird going on here.  If THIS doesn't swing the whole paradigm from Trump guilty in everything..... to a purge / indictment of countless dems...... then something's very wrong with the Trump presidency.

He'd be growing the swamp instead of draining it.

He could put most of the dem party / apparatus in jail today.... something is very fishy about it never happening.

The 101 crimes of Clinton, the Awan saga, the obvious spying / political sabotage of Obama against candidate / President Trump............ Sessions and Trump have them cornered 1000 ways.  Real crimes, real evidence.

If it doesn't happen, this Trump thing is 100% different than expected.

Billy's bayonet

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 19, 2017, 08:26:54 AM
Something weird going on here.  If THIS doesn't swing the whole paradigm from Trump guilty in everything..... to a purge / indictment of countless dems...... then something's very wrong with the Trump presidency.

He'd be growing the swamp instead of draining it.

He could put most of the dem party / apparatus in jail today.... something is very fishy about it never happening.

The 101 crimes of Clinton, the Awan saga, the obvious spying / political sabotage of Obama against candidate / President Trump............ Sessions and Trump have them cornered 1000 ways.  Real crimes, real evidence.

If it doesn't happen, this Trump thing is 100% different than expected.

My gut feeling is that there is a major investigation under way against all the wrongdoing exposed by this idiotic "Russia" compiling evidence of crimes unearthed by said wrong doing is a whole other matter.

From experience, it takes time to build a case. It also takes evidence and documentation. Sometimes years worth. Now here is the kicker. You had a thoroughly corrupt FBI under Comey and a thoroughly corrupt AG in both Holder and Lynch who had quite a bit of time to cover their (and Obama's) tail. God only knows how many files were purged, evidence destroyed, evidence manufactured, witnesses disposed of, threatened, disappeared etc etc. You would literally have to build a case from scratch with so many of the missing pieces of the puzzle, a daunting task not easily done. Then you have to keep it quiet and not broadcast it so that the numerous spies, deep staters and leakers don't catch wind of what you are doing to further bollox and hamper your efforts.

And if you are going after these people, you BETTER HAVE YOUR SHIT TOGETHER.

Here is something else to ponder.  The longer this farcical "Russia gate" goes on with this clown Mueller, the more Dem wrong doing gets exposed, never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake, if you are going to drain the swamp you first have determine how vast it is

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AndyJackson

I have had the feeling, and the hope, that Trump may be a master at playing possum and stringing this thing along, just letting people like Mueller and Comey and Clinton / Abedin / Mills / Rice continually layer one lie, one crime, on top of another.

You know already that these guys have left a trail of perjury a mile long.  This by itself could be very wide indictment and prosecution.

But there's most likely a very, very bad thing that occurred under Obama, including treason and espionage, in the Awan mess.  Whether things like perjury and the real Russian payoffs to Clinton / Podesta, and the Weiner / Abedin mess...... are mere appetizers, may be why they aren't being pursued as strongly.  Or maybe it's all intertwined and they need to build the whole enchilada as one monstrous case.  I guess that could take a year or two.

I truly hope that this is what's behind Sessions' apparent "do nothing" appearance.  Maybe he's doing it, just incredibly secretly.  Trump's giving him hell may have been just for shits & grins, more strategy.  Imagine that.

Then you also have the possibility of just dropping the massive case on them a month or two before the 2018 elections.  It would be the craziest political bomb that we've ever seen.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 19, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
I have had the feeling, and the hope, that Trump may be a master at playing possum and stringing this thing along, just letting people like Mueller and Comey and Clinton / Abedin / Mills / Rice continually layer one lie, one crime, on top of another.

You know already that these guys have left a trail of perjury a mile long.  This by itself could be very wide indictment and prosecution.

But there's most likely a very, very bad thing that occurred under Obama, including treason and espionage, in the Awan mess.  Whether things like perjury and the real Russian payoffs to Clinton / Podesta, and the Weiner / Abedin mess...... are mere appetizers, may be why they aren't being pursued as strongly.  Or maybe it's all intertwined and they need to build the whole enchilada as one monstrous case.  I guess that could take a year or two.

I truly hope that this is what's behind Sessions' apparent "do nothing" appearance.  Maybe he's doing it, just incredibly secretly.  Trump's giving him hell may have been just for shits & grins, more strategy.  Imagine that.

Then you also have the possibility of just dropping the massive case on them a month or two before the 2018 elections.  It would be the craziest political bomb that we've ever seen.
Andy, use the quote function. If you remember correctly, you received several warnings last time. Remember?
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If Manafort was wiretapped it is not a far leap to think Trump was also wiretapped. Also, Comey and Clapper lied...again.

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Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 19, 2017, 09:06:58 PM
If Manafort was wiretapped it is not a far leap to think Trump was also wiretapped. Also, Comey and Clapper lied...again.


Manafort has had his civil rights violated by what amounts to an illegal wire tap under Title 3. Anyone else who is the aggrieved party here should file a class action lawsuit against COmey, Lynch the entire Obama admin and sue them personally for everything they got.
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WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

TboneAgain

Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 19, 2017, 09:06:58 PM
If Manafort was wiretapped it is not a far leap to think Trump was also wiretapped. Also, Comey and Clapper lied...again.

The way I see it, Manafort was Trump's campaign manager for much of that time, and it's nuts to think he never talked to Trump during the period his communications were being monitored. For me it's a farther leap to think Trump was NOT wiretapped.
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Quote from: TboneAgain on September 20, 2017, 11:21:54 AM
The way I see it, Manafort was Trump's campaign manager for much of that time, and it's nuts to think he never talked to Trump during the period his communications were being monitored. For me it's a farther leap to think Trump was NOT wiretapped.

You can keep your Doctors and Insurances.  :rolleyes:

We did not wiretap Trump.  :rolleyes: 
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AndyJackson

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on September 20, 2017, 02:18:47 AM

Manafort has had his civil rights violated by what amounts to an illegal wire tap under Title 3. Anyone else who is the aggrieved party here should file a class action lawsuit against COmey, Lynch the entire Obama admin and sue them personally for everything they got.
The Obama and Clinton camps were so easily convinced that they have a right to do this crap because they never pay the price, in lawsuits, prosecutions, etc.

If it doesn't happen this time, all the same crimes will be SOP next time a filthy dem cabal gets power.

It's why Sessions is such dogcrap, and Trump is starting to smell.  Just letting the corrupt crimes live to see another day.  And be re-created yet again.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on September 21, 2017, 11:49:42 AM
The Obama and Clinton camps were so easily convinced that they have a right to do this crap because they never pay the price, in lawsuits, prosecutions, etc.

If it doesn't happen this time, all the same crimes will be SOP next time a filthy dem cabal gets power.

It's why Sessions is such dogcrap, and Trump is starting to smell.  Just letting the corrupt crimes live to see another day.  And be re-created yet again.
I don't even know if it's just Trump after the way the gop'E ran from prosecuting anyone over the IRS scandal attacking TEA, the RINO, as I'm certain, were as deep in it as the Dims are.
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I hope Samantha Powers is nailed. She is nothing more than a corrupt Obama follower just like Susan Rice.
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Cryptic Bert

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 21, 2017, 12:16:44 PM
I hope Samantha Powers is nailed. She is nothing more than a corrupt Obama follower just like Susan Rice.

If you want to nail her, go for it. Personally I would rather shag a pencil sharpener in a dumpster.

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Quote from: AndyJackson on September 19, 2017, 08:26:54 AM
Something weird going on here.  If THIS doesn't swing the whole paradigm from Trump guilty in everything..... to a purge / indictment of countless dems...... then something's very wrong with the Trump presidency.

He'd be growing the swamp instead of draining it.

He could put most of the dem party / apparatus in jail today.... something is very fishy about it never happening.

The 101 crimes of Clinton, the Awan saga, the obvious spying / political sabotage of Obama against candidate / President Trump............ Sessions and Trump have them cornered 1000 ways.  Real crimes, real evidence.

If it doesn't happen, this Trump thing is 100% different than expected.

IMHO, as long as Sessions is the AG, this will go nowhere.  Sessions, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey are all from the same cabbage patch. 
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