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Offline Rotwang

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DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« on: January 26, 2018, 12:46:39 PM »
I'm not real clear on this, but doesn't DACA expire automatically on March 5th ?

Can ICE begin rounding them up and sending them HOME on that date ?

If so, and Trump doesn't bone us, this problem will solve itself ?

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Re: DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 02:11:59 PM »
I'm not real clear on this, but doesn't DACA expire automatically on March 5th ?

Can ICE begin rounding them up and sending them HOME on that date ?

If so, and Trump doesn't bone us, this problem will solve itself ?
I'm convinced that he hasn't really given away the farm on immigration.

There are some details and nuts & bolts that will burn the dems.

Just like how the budget deal quietly snuck in some O'Care daggers.

Just like he's doing with the criminal side, he's playing them on the domestic stuff, using their childish anger, hate, jealousy, greed, against them.

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Re: DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 02:33:31 PM »
I'm convinced that he hasn't really given away the farm on immigration.

There are some details and nuts & bolts that will burn the dems.

Just like how the budget deal quietly snuck in some O'Care daggers.

Just like he's doing with the criminal side, he's playing them on the domestic stuff, using their childish anger, hate, jealousy, greed, against them.
Exactly! He's playing these people for the fools they are.
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Re: DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 03:31:27 PM »
Andy,
I tend to agree with you.  I see Conservatives  really angry because they think President Trump (libs hate that ---that's for Hoofer) has sold them out.  Then I watch Ninny Pelosi irate because this plan is terrible. 

The impression is that the President is reaching across the aisle to negotiate in good faith while the Dems are recoiling in horror, throwing a temper tantrum, thereby looking like the childish liars they are.

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Re: DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 03:47:12 PM »
Andy,
I tend to agree with you.  I see Conservatives  really angry because they think President Trump (libs hate that ---that's for Hoofer) has sold them out.  Then I watch Ninny Pelosi irate because this plan is terrible. 

The impression is that the President is reaching across the aisle to negotiate in good faith while the Dems are recoiling in horror, throwing a temper tantrum, thereby looking like the childish liars they are.

This is not new, they have been doing this for over 70 years.   What's yours I will take it from you one way or the other.  Oh and fill my pockets at the same time. 
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Re: DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 04:50:56 PM »
The clock does run out on March 5th Or is it the 8th? And Trump has been deporting DACA people that have committed serious crimes like MS-13.

Its important to remember that nobody signed Nuttin' yet and nuttin' been 'cross Trumps desk to sign. Trump is in the cat birds seat. If the Dems refuse to sign on the Bill....ANY Bill with anything remotely containing Limits on immigration "The Wall" and a few other things AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL NOT, the clock runs out and the Dreamers are at the mercy of ICE the Dems get the blame..... :popcorn:

Trump manuvered these idiots into an impossible catch 22 situation.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 05:10:41 PM »
The clock does run out on March 5th Or is it the 8th? And Trump has been deporting DACA people that have committed serious crimes like MS-13.

Its important to remember that nobody signed Nuttin' yet and nuttin' been 'cross Trumps desk to sign. Trump is in the cat birds seat. If the Dems refuse to sign on the Bill....ANY Bill with anything remotely containing Limits on immigration "The Wall" and a few other things AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL NOT, the clock runs out and the Dreamers are at the mercy of ICE the Dems get the blame..... :popcorn:

Trump manuvered these idiots into an impossible catch 22 situation.

Send ALL the NITEMARES HOME.

Then real progress will begin.

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2018, 05:12:01 AM »
Exactly! He's playing these people for the fools they are.

And they are taking the bait hook, line and sinker. The left is becoming more incoherent. Just yesterday Mrs. Pelosi said Trump, "wants to make America White again". Please keep this kind of nonsense up. It resonates with the "silent majority".
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2018, 06:16:45 AM »
I swear, Pelosi and Schemer must meet every morning and decide what lie they are going to put out there that day.  What on earth does legalizing 1.8M illegals have to do with "make America white again"?  They insult their own base by trying to make them believe such nonsense.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2018, 06:53:05 AM »
Send ALL the NITEMARES HOME.

Then real progress will begin.

We must be practical and we must be Honest, we are not able to send ALL of them home. We need to send the worst ones home first and systematically go to work on the rest. What is most important here is the SYMBOLISM. If we create a "hostile" environment to illegal immigration then there will be less of it and more "self deportation" and even less attempts to enter.

That is why this DACA is so very important. You have to understand how these people think, DACA is a way around the system, allow that and every 3rd World persons thinks they can do the same, it encourages a lot of child trafficking and
human trafficking, which to a large extent this whole illegal alien thing is.  The Cartels control it, feed upon it, get money from it by taking advantage of the human cargo they facilitate.

THIS WHOLE THING IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE!


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Re: DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2018, 08:09:58 AM »
Let us not forget one extremely important detail, self-deportation.
Trumpp will be cutting off their welfare very soon, all their support, free housing, medical, food stamps, all cut off, the main reason they're here, they don't have to work, and those that do work are a small minority to those sucking off the taxpayer.

Once Trump dries up the gravy train, the Dims will start having to foot the bill for these people to stay in the states, and we know how rich they are at the moment.
Just be patient, there is about to be an exodus. :biggrin:
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Re: DACA - Is PRESIDENT TRUMP simply just running down the clock ?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2018, 06:41:27 PM »
Bayonet's comment about symbolism and Solar's about self-deportation, are very wise.
Reflecting, I voted for Trump and wish him well for the sake of our nation, yet have no illusions about him.
For me, he epitomizes an ageing salesman for whom process (the deal) transcends outcome.
This reminds of the wisdom of Burke who asserted that the most vital attribute in a leader was prudence;
the ability to discern the impact on the future of an action taken in the now.
Trump will never be conflated w/Pericles, Charlemagne, James Madison, Von Bismarck, Lord Palmerston; among others.
But his level of naiveté about this Dreamer fandango frightens me.
The concept of Sovereign Right, spawned in Europe almost four centuries ago, has been a bedrock of international jurisprudence; whereby the citizens of a Nation-State w/clearly defined and recognized borders, have the right to choose their governance. Those outside those borders have no such right. NONE!
As such, whatever rights these dreamers have, exist only in their country of origin.
Yet what should be the essence of the discussion has been marginalized and ignored.
Instead we hear a litany of pious humanitarianism, religious impulses and sanctimonious blather.
For someone as unschooled as Trump is and who craves adulation; this is a very treacherous matter for our country.


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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2018, 07:08:33 PM »
The democrats demand amnesty or DACA or whatever you call it. But they will never accept it if Trump is the one offering it because they want the credit and the future votes. They are in a corner. Trump offered to double the amount that get to stay and the democrats were forced to refuse. Trump is playing them and they have no clue what to do.
Trump was in Davos promoting an America first agenda while the left were at home shooting themselves in the left foot. Nancy Pelosi said Trump wants to make America white again. And he is going to do that by giving a pathway to citizenship to 1.8 million illegals?

They've lost the plot.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 03:43:21 AM »
The democrats demand amnesty or DACA or whatever you call it. But they will never accept it if Trump is the one offering it because they want the credit and the future votes. They are in a corner. Trump offered to double the amount that get to stay and the democrats were forced to refuse. Trump is playing them and they have no clue what to do.
Trump was in Davos promoting an America first agenda while the left were at home shooting themselves in the left foot. Nancy Pelosi said Trump wants to make America white again. And he is going to do that by giving a pathway to citizenship to 1.8 million illegals?

They've lost the plot.

Let's just hope Pelosi remains in good health. She is the gift that keeps on giving.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2018, 06:36:30 AM »
The democrats demand amnesty or DACA or whatever you call it. But they will never accept it if Trump is the one offering it because they want the credit and the future votes. They are in a corner. Trump offered to double the amount that get to stay and the democrats were forced to refuse. Trump is playing them and they have no clue what to do.
Trump was in Davos promoting an America first agenda while the left were at home shooting themselves in the left foot. Nancy Pelosi said Trump wants to make America white again. And he is going to do that by giving a pathway to citizenship to 1.8 million illegals?

They've lost the plot.
I see, Fuglosi just admitted the Marxist plan is to flood the country in a discriminatory way with nonwhite people.
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