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Title: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: clipper100 on November 13, 2012, 03:38:10 PM
I Couldn't believe when I saw the CPUSA endorse Hussein.

First time in history the Kommies endorsed a sitting president.

Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
And the KKK endorsed Mitt Romney.  So what?

Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
And the KKK endorsed Mitt Romney.  So what?
Got nothin, do ya. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The CPUSA is the communist party in the US, they endorsed Husein.
It's what we've all been saying all along, that he's a God Damn Marxist/Fabian Socialist!
How much more proof do you need?
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Ragin Rebel on November 13, 2012, 04:31:07 PM
Why wouldn't they endorse one of their own. Obama has been a member of the New Party since the mid 90's. Like his father Frank Marshall Davis, Obama is a card carrying Communist.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
Got nothin, do ya. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The CPUSA is the communist party in the US, they endorsed Husein.
It's what we've all been saying all along, that he's a God Damn Marxist/Fabian Socialist!
How much more proof do you need?

So your logic is:

X party endorses Obama -> Obama supports X party.

Well, the Klan endorsed Romney!

So...plug the KKK into X, and substitute Obama for Romney.

This is your logic, not mine.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: kramarat on November 13, 2012, 04:37:01 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
Got nothin, do ya. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The CPUSA is the communist party in the US, they endorsed Husein.
It's what we've all been saying all along, that he's a God Damn Marxist/Fabian Socialist!
How much more proof do you need?

The poor kid sure does spend a lot of time grasping at straws. He wants to be right so bad he can taste it. He just keeps coming up empty handed.

Lets keep him around...............he's great entertainment, in small doses. :biggrin:
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Yawn on November 13, 2012, 04:39:51 PM
I'd rather talk about what we can do during the next 2 & 4 years so that IF we have a shot at fixing this, we can.  This guy is a massive time waster. I'm tired of his vomit in every thread.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 04:42:30 PM
Quote from: Yawn on November 13, 2012, 04:39:51 PM
I'd rather talk about what we can do during the next 2 & 4 years so that IF we have a shot at fixing this, we can. 

Hint: whining about voter fraud isn't one of them.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2012, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 04:32:39 PM
So your logic is:

X party endorses Obama -> Obama supports X party.

Well, the Klan endorsed Romney!

So...plug the KKK into X, and substitute Obama for Romney.

This is your logic, not mine.
First off, the Klan is not a political party, and one chapter, does not make the whole of a movement.
The CPUSA however, is a political party, and they agree with Husein's platform, by every logical thinking persons standards, it's safe to assume he is more commie than he is a free enterprise POTUS.

Your weak move to equate Mitt with the Klan is in the least pathetic and most consider despicable.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 04:45:01 PM
First off, the Klan is not a political party,

Irrelevant distinction.  You seem to think that an organization supporting you means that you support it.  If the Klan decided that it was a political organization, would my point suddenly change?

Quoteand one chapter, does not make the whole of a movement.

So Romney only supports the ideals of that one chapter, according to your line of reasoning.  KK.

Quote
Your weak move to equate Mitt with the Klan is in the least pathetic and most consider despicable.

You don't understand how an Reductio ad absurdum works. 

Let me educate you: that Romney obviously does not support the Klan is my entire point!  Your logic fails because it leads us to ridiculous conclusions if we apply to to anybody other than what you find convenient.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Yawn on November 13, 2012, 04:57:21 PM
QuoteLet me educate you: that Romney obviously does not support the Klan is my entire point!  Your logic fails because it leads us to ridiculous conclusions if we apply to to anybody other than what you find convenient.

What you refuse to accept is that Obama DOES accept all the principle of Marxism.  You do too to a great degree.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 04:47:12 PM
Irrelevant distinction.
To the contrary, but you knew that and didn't like the truth/.
Quote
So Romney only supports the ideals of that one chapter, according to your line of reasoning.  KK.

You don't understand how an Reductio ad absurdum works.
Actually I do, and you used it in the wrong context.
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Let me educate you: that Romney obviously does not support the Klan is my entire point!  Your logic fails because it leads us to ridiculous conclusions if we apply to to anybody other than what you find convenient.

Wrong son, your attempt to link Mitt to the Klan is absurd to the extreme.
You can forget using that claim as a defense and distraction from the truth, the the fact that the commies like Husein.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
To the contrary, but you knew that and didn't like the truth/.

You still haven't established a reason why endorsements by political organizations are fundamentally more revealing than endorsements by not-overtly-political organizations.

Quote
Actually I do, and you used it in the wrong context.

No, you just didn't understand it.   :rolleyes:

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Wrong son, your attempt to link Mitt to the Klan is absurd to the extreme.

See, this is an example of you needing to polish up your debating skills.  I made it quite clear that my post made the exact opposite link. 

Quote
You can forget using that claim as a defense and distraction from the truth, the the fact that the commies like Husein.

Ok, let's say that commies like Hussein.  That doesn't make Hussein a commie.  Racists like Romney.  Does that make Romney a racist? 

Now, respond to the above with your new-found understanding of what a reducio ad absurdum argument is.  Maybe you won't repeat precisely what I explained to you isn't so (twice now).
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Darth Fife on November 13, 2012, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 04:45:01 PM
First off, the Klan is not a political party, and one chapter, does not make the whole of a movement.
The CPUSA however, is a political party, and they agree with Husein's platform, by every logical thinking persons standards, it's safe to assume he is more commie than he is a free enterprise POTUS.

Your weak move to equate Mitt with the Klan is in the least pathetic and most consider despicable.

More importantly, Obama agrees with the CPUSA's party platform! Romney, on the other hand, does not support (or even tolerate) the KKK's position on, well, just about anything.

Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Yawn on November 13, 2012, 05:56:52 PM
Even the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) has now objected to the Democrat Party, suing the Democrats and its leadership for "stealing" their party platform and relabeling it as "progressive".

According to political hotwire and many other sources, CPUSA claims that the entire so-called "new" Democratic agenda is, in fact, the product of a decades-long, painstaking campaign by CPUSA theorists... http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/09-566/ (http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/09-566/)
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Yawn on November 13, 2012, 05:59:47 PM
"CPUSA lawyers presented documents to the press showing that the Democratic platform of 2010, almost line-for-line, reiterates the CPUSA platform of 1963.  In other words, the Democrats of today are the Communists of yesterday. "
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 06:00:58 PM
Quote from: Yawn on November 13, 2012, 05:59:47 PM
"CPUSA lawyers presented documents to the press showing that the Democratic platform of 2010, almost line-for-line, reiterates the CPUSA platform of 1963.  In other words, the Democrats of today are the Communists of yesterday. "

And we're obviously winning.  Doesn't it hurt you to think that the tides of history are casting you asunder?

Of course, I'm calling bullshit on that.  If the democratic party is communistic, what does that make the liberal party in Canada?   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
You still haven't established a reason why endorsements by political organizations are fundamentally more revealing than endorsements by not-overtly-political organizations.

No, you just didn't understand it.   :rolleyes:

See, this is an example of you needing to polish up your debating skills.  I made it quite clear that my post made the exact opposite link. 

Ok, let's say that commies like Hussein.  That doesn't make Hussein a commie.  Racists like Romney.  Does that make Romney a racist? 

Now, respond to the above with your new-found understanding of what a reducio ad absurdum argument is.  Maybe you won't repeat precisely what I explained to you isn't so (twice now).
When was the last time a Klan leader held public office, and what party did he represent?
Now tell me, what was the last candidate the CPUSA endorsed, and what party did they represent?
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 06:07:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
When was the last time a Klan leader held public office, and what party did he represent?
Now tell me, what was the last candidate the CPUSA endorsed, and what party did they represent?

By your logic, Teddy Roosevelt was a conservative.

You don't understand the history of the two political parties, do you?

And none of this has anything to do with your ridiculous logic that "commies support Obama, ergo Obama must support commies".
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 13, 2012, 06:08:49 PM
Here, I think I can help Solar in this troubling time of loss and answer these for him.. In best Solar tone


*clears throat*





Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
You still haven't established a reason why endorsements by political organizations are fundamentally more revealing than endorsements by not-overtly-political organizations.

Look here son, I dont have to. You're a liberal on OUR forum and what we say is truth, what you say is fiction. Read the rule book.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
No, you just didn't understand it.   :rolleyes:

I see you believe you understand what I understand, but think you understand what I don't understand. :drool:

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
See, this is an example of you needing to polish up your debating skills.  I made it quite clear that my post made the exact opposite link. 

My debating skills are founded on the founding fathers words. The leaders of the great American fine dinning association (aka, chikfila) agrees with every word I say. WAFFLE FRIES EQUALS FREEDOM!!!

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
Ok, let's say that commies like Hussein.  That doesn't make Hussein a commie.  Racists like Romney.  Does that make Romney a racist? 

You just said "commies are like Hussein" meaning that Hussein is JUST LIKE a commie. I win, you lose!

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
Now, respond to the above with your new-found understanding of what a reducio ad absurdum argument is.  Maybe you won't repeat precisely what I explained to you isn't so (twice now).


This is America, speak English, son.













:woot:   
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: hfishjr81 on November 13, 2012, 06:08:49 PM
Here, I think I can help Solar in this troubling time of loss and answer these for him.. In best Solar tone


*clears throat*





Look here son, I dont have to. You're a liberal on OUR forum and what we say is truth, what you say is fiction. Read the rule book.

I see you believe you understand what I understand, but think you understand what I don't understand. :drool:

My debating skills are founded on the founding fathers words. The leaders of the great American fine dinning association (aka, chikfila) agrees with every word I say. WAFFLE FRIES EQUALS FREEDOM!!!

You just said "commies are like Hussein" meaning that Hussein is JUST LIKE a commie. I win, you lose!


This is America, speak English, son.













:woot:

You hate America.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: hfishjr81 on November 13, 2012, 06:14:41 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
You hate America.


LOL!!!!! I should've added that in there somewhere.  :lol:
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2012, 06:31:43 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 06:07:47 PM
By your logic, Teddy Roosevelt was a conservative.

You don't understand the history of the two political parties, do you?

And none of this has anything to do with your ridiculous logic that "commies support Obama, ergo Obama must support commies".
Keep reaching stretch, you're bound to find a turd you like.
Point is, the CPUSA recognizes a kindred spirit in Husein, and your unwillingness to accept that fact says more about you and your attempt at sleight of hand.

Do yourself a favor, look up Fabian Socialist, read about their work and what they believe in, then get back to me.
I have a feeling you will find 90% of their views inline with yours.
This is not being insulting, just thought you might like to learn something.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: REDWHITEBLUE2 on November 13, 2012, 07:04:52 PM
COME ON Solar Ban this TROLL Enough of his B S
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 13, 2012, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
And the KKK endorsed Mitt Romney.  So what?
Romney is white :rolleyes:
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: clipper100 on November 14, 2012, 06:48:02 AM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 13, 2012, 06:00:58 PM
And we're obviously winning.  Doesn't it hurt you to think that the tides of history are casting you asunder?

Of course, I'm calling bullshit on that.  If the democratic party is communistic, what does that make the liberal party in Canada?   :rolleyes:

... And you obviously give the 'crotch' salute when the anthem is sung.

... AND I bet you never 'served'

Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: kramarat on November 14, 2012, 06:55:31 AM
QuoteOf course, I'm calling bullshit on that.  If the democratic party is communistic, what does that make the liberal party in Canada?

History, you moron.

Canada's economy is now #6 in the world. The conservative party is repairing the damage.

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10988596/ns/world_news-americas/t/canadas-conservative-party-wins-election/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10988596/ns/world_news-americas/t/canadas-conservative-party-wins-election/)

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/article/83282--canada-s-economic-outlook-is-glowing-so-too-should-our-confidence (http://www.canadianbusiness.com/article/83282--canada-s-economic-outlook-is-glowing-so-too-should-our-confidence)
Your ignorance is astounding.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 14, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: kramarat on November 14, 2012, 06:55:31 AM

Canada's economy is now #6 in the world. The conservative party is repairing the damage.

Canada has a strong economy, Universal Healthcare and tight government Regulations on just about everything, including the Banking industry.

To quote you:
QuoteYour ignorance is astounding.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: kramarat on November 14, 2012, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 14, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Canada has a strong economy, Universal Healthcare and tight government Regulations on just about everything, including the Banking industry.

To quote you:

The conservative party is easing restrictive regulations, developing energy, and healthcare is becoming more privatized. They are a strong economy because of conservatives. We had the same opportunity, and turned it down. We are running directly into, what Canada is successfully running away from.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Darth Fife on November 14, 2012, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 06:31:43 PM
Keep reaching stretch, you're bound to find a turd you like.
Point is, the CPUSA recognizes a kindred spirit in Husein, and your unwillingness to accept that fact says more about you and your attempt at sleight of hand.

Do yourself a favor, look up Fabian Socialist, read about their work and what they believe in, then get back to me.
I have a feeling you will find 90% of their views inline with yours.
This is not being insulting, just thought you might like to learn something.

Fabian! My wife loves his movies!

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldminemag.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FFabianJimmyStewartHobbsstill.jpg&hash=b3ab90acf83cf192c7ef00eabece3d271a239538)
Fabian and James Stewart in Mr Hobbs Takes A Vacation

Didn't know he was a socialist...
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 14, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
Quote from: kramarat on November 14, 2012, 01:03:13 PM
We had the same opportunity, and turned it down. We are running directly into, what Canada is successfully running away from.
"We had the same opportunity" Ya like 30 years ago.
What do you think Reagan started?
Canada is NOT running away from Universal Healthcare and regulations.

Canada is the perfect example of how regulated capitalism works!
We should be doing the same.
The housing bubble didn't hit Canada, due to regulations on Banking and Mortgages.

Cleaning up burdensome and redundant regulations, sure we need to do this.

Let the Banking industry, regulate itself, like Romney wanted, NOT a good idea.
Title: Re: CPUSA endorsing a sitting president
Post by: kramarat on November 15, 2012, 03:57:19 AM
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 14, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
"We had the same opportunity" Ya like 30 years ago.
What do you think Reagan started?
Canada is NOT running away from Universal Healthcare and regulations.

Canada is the perfect example of how regulated capitalism works!
We should be doing the same.
The housing bubble didn't hit Canada, due to regulations on Banking and Mortgages.

Cleaning up burdensome and redundant regulations, sure we need to do this.

Let the Banking industry, regulate itself, like Romney wanted, NOT a good idea.

You're slipping off into fantasy land.

Romney never said anything about eliminating regulations on banks. In fact, right now, the Obama administration is giving the big banks zero interest loans. The big banks are investing the money in Wall St, bonds, etc. It's almost impossible for an individual or small business to get a loan. Obama is deep in bed with your perceived enemies............big banks and Wall St.

The housing bubble didn't hit Canada, because the government didn't arbitrarily decide that home ownership was a basic human right, and force the banks to loan money to people that couldn't possibly pay it back. This is all well established..............

Do a google search on the housing bubble, Freddie Mac, Fannie May, government involvement, etc. If you take the time to just get some basic facts about these things, maybe you won't sound so completely ignorant in your posts.