Marine Le Pen refuses to put on muzzie head veil

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Cryptic Bert

The main reason why we have "moderate" Muslims in this country is because we are a stable republic and have laws regarding civil rights. We value equality.


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Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 23, 2017, 05:43:01 PM
The main reason why we have "moderate" Muslims in this country is because we are a stable republic and have laws regarding civil rights. We value equality.

I'm almost afraid to respond to this Boo, but it's just input from a snowflake so don't sweat it.  :cool: Your statement is very well said. Some subset of the Muslim population in the US is moderate and any Muslim can choose to be moderate if they want to because of the stable republic.

Those in the US that don't choose to be moderate have to face a harsh and swift justice under the law or we'll end up with a growing problem like BO gave us in his legacy. Heck with Obamacare - OB's legacy is that non-moderate Muslims and illegal aliens feel at liberty to do as they wish in our republic. 

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Quote from: topside on February 24, 2017, 05:47:03 AM
I'm almost afraid to respond to this Boo, but it's just input from a snowflake so don't sweat it.  :cool: Your statement is very well said. Some subset of the Muslim population in the US is moderate and any Muslim can choose to be moderate if they want to because of the stable republic.

Those in the US that don't choose to be moderate have to face a harsh and swift justice under the law or we'll end up with a growing problem like BO gave us in his legacy. Heck with Obamacare - OB's legacy is that non-moderate Muslims and illegal aliens feel at liberty to do as they wish in our republic.
Yet you completely glossed over the point of the video. Go back and start at 2:30 seconds, where they explain that there is no such thing as a moderate Muscum, simply because to be a Muscum, you must accept Sharia, and to accept sharia means to accept violence as a way of life in protecting its tenets.
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Quote from: Solar on February 24, 2017, 05:59:17 AM
Yet you completely glossed over the point of the video. Go back and start at 2:30 seconds, where they explain that there is no such thing as a moderate Muscum, simply because to be a Muscum, you must accept Sharia, and to accept sharia means to accept violence as a way of life in protecting its tenets.

No. That the opinion of one Muslim. I know other US citizens that have behaved as moderate Muslims and as any other citizen of our country. I disagree that there are no moderate Muslims and because I have experience with a few. Probably most Muslims in the US are moderates - although I can only nominally support the position. Now, some might claim that these aren't devote Muslims - that's a slippery slope.

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Quote from: topside on February 24, 2017, 06:30:10 AM
No. That the opinion of one Muslim. I know other US citizens that have behaved as moderate Muslims and as any other citizen of our country. I disagree that there are no moderate Muslims and because I have experience with a few. Probably most Muslims in the US are moderates - although I can only nominally support the position. Now, some might claim that these aren't devote Muslims - that's a slippery slope.
Uhh no, it wasn't one muscum, it was everyone he interviewed.
I know a bunch of these people as well, and their views are mirrored with what these people are saying.
One thing they all agree with is the cutting off of appendages, be it a hand or a finger for stealing, they see it as a way of quelling violence in black neighborhoods.
Oh, I get why they agree with it, they want the violence to stop, at the cost of using more violence to bring an end to violence in the black community.
This is not an American view, this is the view of all these fools that follow this so called religion, and no, there is no separating sharia from the religion.
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Quote from: Solar on February 24, 2017, 07:03:01 AM
Uhh no, it wasn't one muscum, it was everyone he interviewed.
I know a bunch of these people as well, and their views are mirrored with what these people are saying.
One thing they all agree with is the cutting off of appendages, be it a hand or a finger for stealing, they see it as a way of quelling violence in black neighborhoods.
Oh, I get why they agree with it, they want the violence to stop, at the cost of using more violence to bring an end to violence in the black community.
This is not an American view, this is the view of all these fools that follow this so called religion, and no, there is no separating sharia from the religion.

... yeah, mistype ... meant "the opinion of one group of Muslims" - it's obviously not just one Muslim's opinion in the video. This is a small sample, maybe from one area which may be biased - but maybe not. The question is whether that's representative of the moderate Muslim population - meaning Muslims that are not extremists.

For this group they basically agreed that it's easy to be a Muslim in the US which I expected. What I didn't expect is that they would say that they prefer Sharia law, and that they would rather live in their Muslim countries. Not sure what's stopping them?

There is no problem practicing Sharia law where it is not in conflict with US law. But if they violate our laws then they should face the consequences. It's like there is no problem for Jews to practice Old Testament law as long as it doesn't violate US law. An eye for an eye is also in the Old Testament.

However, I'm not sure that's a broad sentiment, but I've never ask these questions of the Muslims that I know.

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Quote from: topside on February 24, 2017, 12:46:43 PM
... yeah, mistype ... meant "the opinion of one group of Muslims" - it's obviously not just one Muslim's opinion in the video. This is a small sample, maybe from one area which may be biased - but maybe not. The question is whether that's representative of the moderate Muslim population - meaning Muslims that are not extremists.

For this group they basically agreed that it's easy to be a Muslim in the US which I expected. What I didn't expect is that they would say that they prefer Sharia law, and that they would rather live in their Muslim countries. Not sure what's stopping them?

There is no problem practicing Sharia law where it is not in conflict with US law. But if they violate our laws then they should face the consequences. It's like there is no problem for Jews to practice Old Testament law as long as it doesn't violate US law. An eye for an eye is also in the Old Testament.

However, I'm not sure that's a broad sentiment, but I've never ask these questions of the Muslims that I know.


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Cryptic Bert

Quote from: topside on February 24, 2017, 05:47:03 AM
I'm almost afraid to respond to this Boo, but it's just input from a snowflake so don't sweat it.  :cool:

That's a bit dramatic.

QuoteYour statement is very well said. Some subset of the Muslim population in the US is moderate and any Muslim can choose to be moderate if they want to because of the stable republic.

Those in the US that don't choose to be moderate have to face a harsh and swift justice under the law or we'll end up with a growing problem like BO gave us in his legacy. Heck with Obamacare - OB's legacy is that non-moderate Muslims and illegal aliens feel at liberty to do as they wish in our republic.

You are missing the point. They are "moderate" not because they choose to be but because they have no choice. And these are the only ones that can stop the terrorists. It's going to be hard for them to do that when they want the same thing as the terrorists.