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Title: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: Solar on December 17, 2020, 04:50:49 AM
Or it may be nothing at all, but apparently it is happening.

https://twitter.com/annvandersteel/status/1339425729952419840
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: Solar on December 17, 2020, 05:18:28 AM
https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1339437672176054273
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: T Hunt on December 17, 2020, 05:35:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 17, 2020, 04:50:49 AM
Or it may be nothing at all, but apparently it is happening.

https://twitter.com/annvandersteel/status/1339425729952419840

What is meant by white house staff? Is this like the cook and the cleaners? Or more like his advisors and political appointees?
And I wonder how much time he gave them, like if he said in the next month, or if he said ASAP?

Thing is, I wld think that if this was true that the MSM wld have heard at least a rumor of it and wld have trumpeted it as proof that trump was planning on leaving the WH and conceding.
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: Billy's bayonet on December 17, 2020, 05:36:19 AM
It may have something to do with the snow storm. From experience nothing paralizes Wash DC like a few drops of snow or even the threat of same.
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: Solar on December 17, 2020, 05:38:43 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on December 17, 2020, 05:35:10 AM
What is meant by white house staff? Is this like the cook and the cleaners? Or more like his advisors and political appointees?
And I wonder how much time he gave them, like if he said in the next month, or if he said ASAP?

Thing is, I wld think that if this was true that the MSM wld have heard at least a rumor of it and wld have trumpeted it as proof that trump was planning on leaving the WH and conceding.
No one appears to know yet. Could be something as innocuous as "Have a Merry Christmas, see you next year", or Insurrection Act begins today.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: RV on December 17, 2020, 06:17:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 17, 2020, 05:38:43 AM
No one appears to know yet. Could be something as innocuous as "Have a Merry Christmas, see you next year", or Insurrection Act begins today.  :biggrin:

IMO, the "insurrection" began the moment Obama spied on Donald Trump's campaign. The "insurrection" has been going on ever since. It took the form of a bogus dossier, a phony "impeachment", multiple frame ups, using the media to trumpet a false narrative, grossly inflating a Communist manufactured cold virus, claiming that a duly elected President was "illegitimate" and defrauding a presidential election.
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: Solar on December 17, 2020, 06:28:34 AM
Quote from: RV on December 17, 2020, 06:17:36 AM
IMO, the "insurrection" began the moment Obama spied on Donald Trump's campaign. The "insurrection" has been going on ever since. It took the form of a bogus dossier, a phony "impeachment", multiple frame ups, using the media to trumpet a false narrative, grossly inflating a Communist manufactured cold virus, claiming that a duly elected President was "illegitimate" and defrauding a presidential election.

If a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them," Trump said in a short statement in the Rose Garden at the White House.

To do that, the president would need to invoke what's known as the Insurrection Act of 1807. The original text of the act, which has been amended several times since it was first passed, reads as follows:

An Act authorizing the employment of the land and naval forces of the United States, in cases of insurrections

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That in all cases of insurrection, or obstruction to the laws, either of the United States, or of any individual state or territory, where it is lawful for the President of the United States to call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing such insurrection, or of causing the laws to be duly executed, it shall be lawful for him to employ, for the same purposes, such part of the land or naval force of the United States, as shall be judged necessary, having first observed all the pre-requisites of the law in that respect.

APPROVED, March 3, 1807.

The act was last invoked in 1992 to quell the Los Angeles riots after the acquittal of four white police officers in the beating of Rodney King, a black man, and before that in 1989 during widespread looting in St. Croix, Virgin Islands, after Hurricane Hugo.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867467714/what-is-the-insurrection-act-that-trump-is-threatening-to-invoke
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: American Exceptionalism on December 17, 2020, 06:28:56 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 17, 2020, 05:36:19 AM
It may have something to do with the snow storm. From experience nothing paralizes Wash DC like a few drops of snow or even the threat of same.

I have a feeling that's it. Get out of Dodge before one is stranded in D.C.
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: Solar on December 17, 2020, 07:55:58 AM
Interesting Take here...


https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1339578441960603658



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December, 50BC:
Julius Caesar was enormously popular and commanding an army of fiercely loyal soldiers. The Roman swamp wanted nothing to do with him and in January 49BC the Roman Senate ordered Julius Caesar to disband his army and return home or become an "Enemy of the State".
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Julius Caesar, with the popular support of the Roman populace, and the loyalty of the military, marched his army over the Rubicon river in the North of Italy and became a LEGEND in history.
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December 2020:
Donald Trump is enormously popular and commanding an army of fiercely loyal soldiers. The US swamp wants nothing to do with him.
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Election infrastructure was allegedly attacked and he now has his back to the wall.
The courts have failed him.
His own political party has failed him.
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Trump still has immensely popular support within the US populace, and the fierce loyalty of the military.
Trump has EO13848 which allows him to take drastic measures and could potentially be used to restore the Republic.
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Does Trump utilize EO13848 and become a LEGEND in history?

OR

Does Trump submit his family to the mercy of the incoming administration who will be hellbent on making an example of them?
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Does Donald Trump want to restore the Republic to greatness and become a LEGEND?

Does Donald Trump want to be known forever as one of the greatest leaders of all time?

EO13848 is Trump's Rubicon.
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: ModelCitizen on December 17, 2020, 10:58:46 AM
"EO13848 is Trump's Rubicon."

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election




So, John Ratcliff has until tomorrow to "conduct an assessment of any information indicating that a foreign government, or any person acting as an agent of or on behalf of a foreign government, has acted with the intent or purpose of interfering in that election. "

I don't get the sense that he's been doing anything...
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: je_freedom on December 17, 2020, 12:45:45 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on December 17, 2020, 05:35:10 AM
What is meant by white house staff? Is this like the cook and the cleaners? Or more like his advisors and political appointees?
And I wonder how much time he gave them, like if he said in the next month, or if he said ASAP?

Thing is, I wld think that if this was true that the MSM wld have heard at least a rumor of it and wld have trumpeted it as proof that trump was planning on leaving the WH and conceding.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 17, 2020, 05:36:19 AM
It may have something to do with the snow storm. From experience nothing paralizes Wash DC like a few drops of snow or even the threat of same.

In other words, we're not yet sure whether this story is really breaking news, or just breaking wind.
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: RV on December 17, 2020, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on December 17, 2020, 05:35:10 AM
What is meant by white house staff? Is this like the cook and the cleaners? Or more like his advisors and political appointees?
And I wonder how much time he gave them, like if he said in the next month, or if he said ASAP?

Thing is, I wld think that if this was true that the MSM wld have heard at least a rumor of it and wld have trumpeted it as proof that trump was planning on leaving the WH and conceding.

Considering how biased and partisan the MSM is, I doubt very seriously that they could be depended upon to "trumpet" ANYTHING. This is especially true if it comes from the Trump WH.
Title: Re: Could be Breaking News?
Post by: ModelCitizen on December 19, 2020, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 17, 2020, 10:58:46 AM
"EO13848 is Trump's Rubicon."

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election




So, John Ratcliff has until tomorrow to "conduct an assessment of any information indicating that a foreign government, or any person acting as an agent of or on behalf of a foreign government, has acted with the intent or purpose of interfering in that election. "

I don't get the sense that he's been doing anything...

He didn't do it and now he's getting angry tweets

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340333619299147781?s=19