Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 13, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
Wrong again, I would NEVER work for this regime or any leftist regime period.

Now who these Marxists would likely hire is the Cartel members of this asshole El Chuppo or whatever he calls himself who just escaped from a Mexican prison, the Black Panthers and various street gangs to go after first the Cops you hate so much, then they would get around to you and me....so very likely the guy you'll be chained to in the Gulag was an ex cop....remember that.....

This is where you go off the rails, Billy. It is not just the "Marxists" who are going to nationalize the police forces of this country and, no, they are not going to hire illegal alien drug cartel members to run the Gulags.

The cops who come and arrest me - and try to arrest you - are going to (most probably) be the cops who were rookies when you retired - who are rookies now.

Most will have come from middle class homes and have some post high school "education". Nearly all will have attended public schools and will have been so brainwashed by the Leftist agenda that they will believe that people like you and I are a danger to ourselves and society!

They'll believe that what their superiors are telling them to do is for the good of society!

It is already beginning...

Yeah, that person chained to me might be an ex-cop, but we both might have been arrested by some former rookie you or one of your buddies trained not so long ago.

Or, (more likely) it will be one of those cops you demanded no one pass judgement on until he/she had been convicted in a court of all and had exhausted all of his/her appeals.

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 14, 2015, 06:23:15 AM
This is where you go off the rails, Billy. It is not just the "Marxists" who are going to nationalize the police forces of this country and, no, they are not going to hire illegal alien drug cartel members to run the Gulags.

The cops who come and arrest me - and try to arrest you - are going to (most probably) be the cops who were rookies when you retired - who are rookies now.

Most will have come from middle class homes and have some post high school "education". Nearly all will have attended public schools and will have been so brainwashed by the Leftist agenda that they will believe that people like you and I are a danger to ourselves and society!

They'll believe that what their superiors are telling them to do is for the good of society!

It is already beginning...

Yeah, that person chained to me might be an ex-cop, but we both might have been arrested by some former rookie you or one of your buddies trained not so long ago.

Or, (more likely) it will be one of those cops you demanded no one pass judgement on until he/she had been convicted in a court of all and had exhausted all of his/her appeals.

Watch the liberal states. If this would happen, it would start there first.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 12, 2015, 01:28:34 PM
You know I was going to reply to you, but it occurred to me I'm wasting my time. I'm fighting uphill against 400 years of racist stereotypes. Stereotypes that say blacks are inherently dangerous.

I didn't know you're a Ed Shultz fan!

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Stereotypes that say blacks are inherently criminal.

I didn't know you're a Rachael Maddow fan!

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Stereotypes that make whites willing - in some cases eager - to believe that a black person deserved to be killed.

Nobody thinks that.  You're being dramatic.

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Now as to one of your other points, Zimmerman is white, Even though his Peruvian mother has Indian blood, he would still be considered white. He only became Non white, when it was necessary to offset the fact that he had shot an unarmed black teenager.

He was such a sweet young boy.  That's what happens when you try to play the knockout game with someone who is armed.

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And being suspicious of the circumstances isn't racist, just simple observation. The Martin shooting was nowhere near the first time an unarmed black was killed by a white. As my old drill instructor used to say: "Once is a mistake. Twice is intentional. Three times is a pattern of behavior". We are well the a pattern of behavior. As for my not knowing history, anyone with any knowledge of the ante-bellum United States would point out the dominance of the South within the Federal government.

Are there any bad areas in your city?  How would you describe them?  I'm just curious.

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 14, 2015, 06:23:15 AM
This is where you go off the rails, Billy. It is not just the "Marxists" who are going to nationalize the police forces of this country and, no, they are not going to hire illegal alien drug cartel members to run the Gulags.

The cops who come and arrest me - and try to arrest you - are going to (most probably) be the cops who were rookies when you retired - who are rookies now.

Most will have come from middle class homes and have some post high school "education". Nearly all will have attended public schools and will have been so brainwashed by the Leftist agenda that they will believe that people like you and I are a danger to ourselves and society!

It is already beginning...

Yeah, that person chained to me might be an ex-cop, but we both might have been arrested by some former rookie you or one of your buddies trained not so long ago.

Or, (more likely) it will be one of those cops you demanded no one pass judgement on until he/she had been convicted in a court of all and had exhausted all of his/her appeals.

Again you are wrong, the cops I trained as rookies (probably 16 years ago now) are the last of the true Law Enforcement professionals, they are the ones out here being bombarded from every angle by the Administration and their evil leftist minions in the Media and probably wish they could retire and get the hell out. THIS IS THE PLAN, force them out one way or another and replace them with people who are loyal to the Marxist rather than the the traditional values of what used to be the Law Enforcement officer.

Mark my words you are going to start to see a whole slew of "transgendered" police recruits, people with questionable backgrounds, former OWS types and of course :Muslim" Recruits...probably even Illgal aliens, Chicago officials just said as much recently.

These are the people who are going to come after us, the fiends in the admin know that the current crop of Law Enforcement and the MILITARY can't be trusted to support their regime totally, too much influence FROM GUYS LIKE ME..... they have to change the culture, allowing gays in the Military was the first step. With these people INFILTRATED in both the police or military they will be more likely to work with the criminals, gang bangers, Muslim Terrorists, cartel members (hell, the cartels plant these people in the PD's all the time).

These are the people who have a chip on their shoulder against any of us "establishment" types, read anybody White, Over 50, mainstream middle American Baby boomer generation.

That is why I say you better wake up and stop playing into the leftists' hands. They have an agenda....the media, inner city democrats, the education system....they are all in it together.

Hey Billie...
This reminds me of Thule, Greenland.
I'm sure you know what I mean.

Sure glad this was a black officer.  The firestorm this would have caused about white racist cops on the KKK's side is avoided

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20150718_ap_c13b7ada855746e68fd63d55e7aace1a.html

"Cops" who violate our laws, who refuse to do their job, namely to uphold and enforce our laws.


Belong in a dark, damp, prison cell where they won't see the light of day for the rest of their natural lives.

Extreme, yep you bet it is. Intentionally so, because we should and ought too in a nation/society where it's the rule of law, and not the jungle such as ours.

"Cops" who break the law, should be held to a much higher standard and expectation of behavior than that of a mere John Boner, John Q Public citizen.

Quote from: daidalos on July 20, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
"Cops" who violate our laws, who refuse to do their job, namely to uphold and enforce our laws.


Belong in a dark, damp, prison cell where they won't see the light of day for the rest of their natural lives.

Extreme, yep you bet it is. Intentionally so, because we should and ought too in a nation/society where it's the rule of law, and not the jungle such as ours.

"Cops" who break the law, should be held to a much higher standard and expectation of behavior than that of a mere John Boner, John Q Public citizen.

Agreed!   It is a solemn oath they swear!

Quote from: daidalos on July 20, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
"Cops" who violate our laws, who refuse to do their job, namely to uphold and enforce our laws.


Belong in a dark, damp, prison cell where they won't see the light of day for the rest of their natural lives.

Extreme, yep you bet it is. Intentionally so, because we should and ought too in a nation/society where it's the rule of law, and not the jungle such as ours.

"Cops" who break the law, should be held to a much higher standard and expectation of behavior than that of a mere John Boner, John Q Public citizen.

I already posted that I signed up with the understanding that I would be judged on a different standard.  But, that being said, I did not surrender my ABSOLUTE right to due process.  I must be afforded the same rights as a young other accused.  If found guilty, the judge has a right to weigh the fact that I, above all others, knew better and disregard the law I was SWORN to uphold.

Quote from: daidalos on July 20, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
"Cops" who violate our laws, who refuse to do their job, namely to uphold and enforce our laws.


Belong in a dark, damp, prison cell where they won't see the light of day for the rest of their natural lives.

Extreme, yep you bet it is. Intentionally so, because we should and ought too in a nation/society where it's the rule of law, and not the jungle such as ours.

"Cops" who break the law, should be held to a much higher standard and expectation of behavior than that of a mere John Boner, John Q Public citizen.

Agreed, IF THEY ARE CONVICTED....hang them from the highest tree you can find to make an example.

I've mentioned previously that I had my share of "Bad Cops" working with me and under me, I had several removed from the job due to misconduct.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 20, 2015, 05:29:03 PM

Agreed, IF THEY ARE CONVICTED....hang them from the highest tree you can find to make an example.

I've mentioned previously that I had my share of "Bad Cops" working with me and under me, I had several removed from the job due to misconduct.

The thing about this is that you are not the only "former" officer out there, who's saying that.

Lots of former officers are, now that they've retired, telling the truth about the "thin blue line of lies, and the liars who tell them".

While sure we can discount, one or two, former officers who are saying the same sort of thing, as being "disgruntled" etc...

But when it's twenty, fifty, a hundred, out there and they're all saying the same thing. Well it's a little harder to simply discount what they're saying.

The biggest problem I see though, is prosecution of "dirty" cops. You never, hardly if ever, hear about that.

Why? Because it doesn't happen. Attorney's working in the local D.A. office, don't want to offend their "buddies" by prosecuting them when they break the law. And as others have said, after due process are convicted, and then hung to try from the tallest tree we can find, to make an example of them.

In fact, from the word go, it's an uphill battle for a private citizen to get something done about "dirty" cops.

In fact I for one suspect that the opposition to body cams, has more to do with covering up for misdeeds and illegal criminal acts, being committed on a daily basis by those in uniform. And lots less to do with "paying for them" as some claim.

Because, that was the exact same reason given for opposition by p.d.'s for dash cams. Which we (as a society) later learned/found out, was bull shyte of the highest form. The "opposition" to them was really about, covering backsides, and protecting what are "dirty" cops.

Quote from: daidalos on July 21, 2015, 02:47:01 AM
The thing about this is that you are not the only "former" officer out there, who's saying that.

Lots of former officers are, now that they've retired, telling the truth about the "thin blue line of lies, and the liars who tell them".

While sure we can discount, one or two, former officers who are saying the same sort of thing, as being "disgruntled" etc...

But when it's twenty, fifty, a hundred, out there and they're all saying the same thing. Well it's a little harder to simply discount what they're saying.

The biggest problem I see though, is prosecution of "dirty" cops. You never, hardly if ever, hear about that.

Why? Because it doesn't happen. Attorney's working in the local D.A. office, don't want to offend their "buddies" by prosecuting them when they break the law. And as others have said, after due process are convicted, and then hung to try from the tallest tree we can find, to make an example of them.

In fact, from the word go, it's an uphill battle for a private citizen to get something done about "dirty" cops.

In fact I for one suspect that the opposition to body cams, has more to do with covering up for misdeeds and illegal criminal acts, being committed on a daily basis by those in uniform. And lots less to do with "paying for them" as some claim.

Because, that was the exact same reason given for opposition by p.d.'s for dash cams. Which we (as a society) later learned/found out, was bull shyte of the highest form. The "opposition" to them was really about, covering backsides, and protecting what are "dirty" cops.

Not to mention that protecting bad cops can, and often does, get good cops killed!