RV, let me give you something to hang your hat on.  Just imagine had Romney, McCain or the Bitch of Benghazi been elected.  Where we would be today?  It would have been politics as usual.

We had the good fortune of getting a working man elected, and he's fighting for us and for love of country.  Without that and the coup that failed, we would not have discovered any of this deep state stuff.  That's a good thing.

Things are moving at a snails pace, nobody wants to work themselves out of a job.  A committee for this, a committee for that, and on it goes. 

This goes back all the way to the first Bush.  Reagan had done a great job, but then Bush Sr. decided that the GOP needed to be a little more progressive.  And we lost to Clinton, which brought us the Clintong Crime Family.  And in all hindsight I think Clinton was a little more conservative at first.  Then we get Jr., and the compassionate conservative bullshit.

And then a mooselimb who wanted to "fundamentally" change America.  A mindless throng of progressives agreed and America went to Hell in a hand basket.  The result, we get Trump.  We are so lucky.  After the election the chains will come off and we'll have 4 years of ass kicking.  They will be a lot of "help wanted" signs in DC.  Those career bastards will soon realize they need to dust off their resumes.

The deep state players are not sleeping well at night, be sure of that.  Trump has declassified all the Russia hoax shit.  It will take a little time for that info to get out, CNN and MSNBC will not publish the information.

I'll tell ya, as much as I would like to see Barrock Oslama bin Obama and the Bitch of Benghazi hanging from a tree branch, I'll be thrilled to see those bastards Comey, Brennan and Clapper in orange jump suits.

Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 06:41:23 AM
First off, there has been ZERO, NADA, NONE as far as prosecutions go so, YES they have "gotten away with it".

Who?

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Secondly, the liberal Democrats always say that it was a "mistake" AFTER the tyranny. It's funny how no one ever questions the actions BEFORE rights are stepped on and the Constitution is ignored. Last but not least, yes it can be contested in a court of law IF one has unlimited funds and is able to fight for YEARS. It would seem that the only ones who benefit are the Democrats and the lawyers. If the average person smashed evidence as HRC did, used a personal server which compromised National security as HRC did, lied to a FISA court as Comey and his minions did, lied to a Congressional committee as Dr. Ford did, wiped devices as Mueller did, framed people as the DNC did or violated rights as the DOJ and the Democrats did repeatedly, one would face prosecution IMMEDIATELY.

You sound very emotional.

Quote from: Killer Clouds on October 10, 2020, 06:49:23 AM
When you want to kill a snake you have to chop off the head. Cutting off pieces of the tail does no good. Once you cut off the head the whole snake dies. To prosecute an ex-president it takes absolute positive solid evidence. Things are happening so be patient. It's far from over.

I completely agree and well said!

Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 08:57:41 AM
I don't live in liberal land, don't live in a "bubble" and don't have hallucinations either. I don't take drugs, don't drink alcohol and have been married to the same woman for 42 years. I am commenting for the simple fact that NOTHING IS HAPPENING!

You keep trying to make this point, but you're a little light on facts.

QuoteIf it were anyone else an indictment would have been handed down and an arrest warrant issued IMMEDIATELY! There are two justice systems in this country and the "silent majority" had better wake up and soon! It may already be too late to overturn the greed, graft, lies, lawlessness and blatant unConstitutionality that seems to be sweeping the nation. People ARE sheep and the liberal media blasts lies and misinformation constantly.

The reason that we are in this predicament is because it is popular to claim that "everything is a ok" while the cities burn and lawlessness abounds. If someone tries to say something against the normal rhetoric, they are discredited and labeled as a kook or some other name. I've been hearing for literally three years that "things are happening" only nothing is. In the mean time the lawlessness, the lies and the misinformation continues.

By the media. Who cares about the media?  I wouldn't waste so much energy worrying about what Don Lemon thinks about you.

Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 09:17:18 AM
Okay, let's suppose for a moment that I "live in a bubble" and I'm "not getting the truth". Has Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler, James Comey, Rob Rosenstein, HRC, Loretta Lynch, Barack Obama, China Biden or ANYONE at the DNC been indicted or arrested? Since you seem so well informed and supposedly have the "truth", this should be an easy answer for you Solar!

I don't see any reason for Rosenstein to be indicted, and for now, I don't see any reason for Comey to be indicted.

I can't get on board your retarded thinking that says "they haven't been indicted, therefore, they won't be".

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Since you seem to have the "truth" and I am so misinformed, how about you tell us all of the indictments that have been issued and all the names of the Democrats who have been arrested or imprisoned...

For what scandal?  List the evidence you have and for whom.

Quote from: Pop Daddy on October 10, 2020, 04:36:37 PM
RV, let me give you something to hang your hat on.  Just imagine had Romney, McCain or the Bitch of Benghazi been elected.  Where we would be today?  It would have been politics as usual.

We had the good fortune of getting a working man elected, and he's fighting for us and for love of country.  Without that and the coup that failed, we would not have discovered any of this deep state stuff.  That's a good thing.

Things are moving at a snails pace, nobody wants to work themselves out of a job.  A committee for this, a committee for that, and on it goes. 

This goes back all the way to the first Bush.  Reagan had done a great job, but then Bush Sr. decided that the GOP needed to be a little more progressive.  And we lost to Clinton, which brought us the Clintong Crime Family.  And in all hindsight I think Clinton was a little more conservative at first.  Then we get Jr., and the compassionate conservative bullshit.

And then a mooselimb who wanted to "fundamentally" change America.  A mindless throng of progressives agreed and America went to Hell in a hand basket.  The result, we get Trump.  We are so lucky.  After the election the chains will come off and we'll have 4 years of ass kicking.  They will be a lot of "help wanted" signs in DC.  Those career bastards will soon realize they need to dust off their resumes.

The deep state players are not sleeping well at night, be sure of that.  Trump has declassified all the Russia hoax shit.  It will take a little time for that info to get out, CNN and MSNBC will not publish the information.

I'll tell ya, as much as I would like to see Barrock Oslama bin Obama and the Bitch of Benghazi hanging from a tree branch, I'll be thrilled to see those bastards Comey, Brennan and Clapper in orange jump suits.

I would agree with you that if any of the liberal Democrats had won the election, all of this would have been swept under the rug, classified, covered-up or buried so deep in red tape that it would never see the light of day. This is obviously what the Democrats were counting on. Still though, there has been plenty of facts unearthed that it seems quite obviously that the fix was in. I also agree with you that it'll be a thrill to see Comey, Clapper and Brennan in orange jump suits but, that is just a few of the criminals that need to be held accountable.

What happened with Justice Kavenaugh, General Flynn and the Trump campaign should NEVER happen but, it did. What's more, it will happen again unless something is done to hold these morons accountable. There were over 600 requests for increased security that were either ignored or denied by the Oslama administration. The result was that FOUR Americans INCLUDING an American Ambassador were killed. The victims and their families deserve justice!

Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 05:35:51 PM
I would agree with you that if any of the liberal Democrats had won the election, all of this would have been swept under the rug, classified, covered-up or buried so deep in red tape that it would never see the light of day. This is obviously what the Democrats were counting on. Still though, there has been plenty of facts unearthed that it seems quite obviously that the fix was in. I also agree with you that it'll be a thrill to see Comey, Clapper and Brennan in orange jump suits but, that is just a few of the criminals that need to be held accountable.

List their crimes per criminal code.

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What happened with Justice Kavenaugh, General Flynn and the Trump campaign should NEVER happen but, it did. What's more, it will happen again unless something is done to hold these morons accountable. There were over 600 requests for increased security that were either ignored or denied by the Oslama administration. The result was that FOUR Americans INCLUDING an American Ambassador were killed. The victims and their families deserve justice!

Why do you assume there won't be justice on those fronts?

Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 11:45:42 AM
Eh, no thank you. There isn't enough Zanax nor alcohol in the entire world to make me shut off my brain long enough to swallow the nonsense that I hear coming from the Commie Democrats. To be honest, my patience is running low. The idiocy of this "pandemic" scam, the "protests", the way the leftists have ruined this country, the way the Democrats trample on Constitutional rights and the blatant discrimination that the Democrats push is wearing my patience thin!

Everyone's patience is wearing thin. You say you are law enforcement? Even if you were only a city cop you should know how long a complicated local investigation takes, right? Well what if the investigation expands a little bit and it becomes Statewide? Wouldn't it be reasonable to think that it's going to take a little longer? I think so. So once you start investigating across the state you realize that hey this thing is Nationwide so now it's going to really take some time right? The investigation that the doj is looking at includes not just the United States but it goes to Italy, it goes to Australia, it goes to the UK, that goes to Ukraine, it goes to Russia. Hell I get worn out just listing the places that you have to look for evidence and not everyone is going to be cooperative.
Everyone's pissed off that we probably won't see anything before the election but we might. What I have seen is a lot of corruption being exposed wheather it be Michael Flynn, Carter page, Comey Brennan and all the rest we got the goods on them. President Trump says they've been caught, and the corruption goes all the way to the top all the way to Obama.
The country is waking up and in a fair and honest election Trump wins by a landslide, but we know it's not going to be fair we know it will be a battle. If Trump loses there will be violence, if Trump wins there will be more violence. Try to keep in mind that this is the biggest political crime that has ever taken place in the United States of America. This is not just a local Crime Boss we are after and it isn't just a national conspiracy, the Deep state is in every nook and cranny in the world and the investigation will be worldwide. So try to relax, and for God's sake take something to un pucker your butthole. If you want to do something helpful try what most of American Patriots are doing and pray.

Also keep in mind that about half of this investigation was just looking at what had been done. Once they realized that actual crimes had been committed it was then that it expanded into a criminal investigation.

Welcome to The Forum.

I am a FORMER law enforcement officer and my Father was a FORMER law enforcement officer (he retired and passed away). Yes, investigations take time. Most investigations do NOT take years unless the Government is hiding something and embroiled in red tape. My point is that this "investigation" has taken YEARS because money is changing hands, corruption is obvious and politics is apparently more important than justice. They are of course using the Presidential election as an excuse to not let the public know how corrupt the government and the media are.

There is a great deal of foot dragging and the Democrats are hoping that China Joe and Comrad Harris win so all can be swept under the rug. There are "woke" gullible folks out there who cannot think for themselves who support China Joe and Comrad Harris.

If an officer stops a car and notices millions of dollars of illegal drugs in the back seat in plain sight, the officer doesn't wait for an "investigation", he promptly arrests the suspect. In this case, there are documents in plain sight which all prove illegal activity.

Quote from: RV on October 11, 2020, 06:08:37 AM
I am a FORMER law enforcement officer and my Father was a FORMER law enforcement officer (he retired and passed away). Yes, investigations take time. Most investigations do NOT take years unless the Government is hiding something and embroiled in red tape.

This isn't "most investigations"; it's the BIGGEST FUCKING STING IN WORLD HISTORY.

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My point is that this "investigation" has taken YEARS because money is changing hands, corruption is obvious and politics is apparently more important than justice. They are of course using the Presidential election as an excuse to not let the public know how corrupt the government and the media are.

Or maybe, just.... fucking maybe, it involves intelligence agencies from all over the world, including ours, our deep state with operatives in a government, banking systems all over the world, locating people that are impossible to find, and local politicians that have facilitated the deep state for over 60 years.  These are the people who killed Kennedy and took out the towers, but I'm sorry it's not happening fast enough for your liking.

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There is a great deal of foot dragging and the Democrats are hoping that China Joe and Comrad Harris win so all can be swept under the rug. There are "woke" gullible folks out there who cannot think for themselves who support China Joe and Comrad Harris.

Where is the "foot dragging"?  Name it.

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If an officer stops a car and notices millions of dollars of illegal drugs in the back seat in plain sight, the officer doesn't wait for an "investigation", he promptly arrests the suspect. In this case, there are documents in plain sight which all prove illegal activity.

Comparing the largest takedown in world history to pulling over a drug dealer really show show clueless you are and have no clue about anything that's going on.

Quote from: RV on October 11, 2020, 06:08:37 AM
I am a FORMER law enforcement officer and my Father was a FORMER law enforcement officer (he retired and passed away). Yes, investigations take time. Most investigations do NOT take years unless the Government is hiding something and embroiled in red tape. My point is that this "investigation" has taken YEARS because money is changing hands, corruption is obvious and politics is apparently more important than justice. They are of course using the Presidential election as an excuse to not let the public know how corrupt the government and the media are.

There is a great deal of foot dragging and the Democrats are hoping that China Joe and Comrad Harris win so all can be swept under the rug. There are "woke" gullible folks out there who cannot think for themselves who support China Joe and Comrad Harris.

If an officer stops a car and notices millions of dollars of illegal drugs in the back seat in plain sight, the officer doesn't wait for an "investigation", he promptly arrests the suspect. In this case, there are documents in plain sight which all prove illegal activity.

I think what you're failing to understand is these aren't your typical criminal investigations. Most investigations for crime are being conducted against Ordinary People most with criminal backgrounds. The people that are being investigated by Barr and Durham are public government officials, supposedly upstanding citizens with stellar reputations. Many worked in the highest ranks of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. You can't just start taking these people down while there is an ongoing investigation. These people know how to cover their tracks it's what they do. They have passed laws to protect themselves when they say we did this by the book They're not lying in most cases you have to remember they wrote the book. You need to have your ducks in a row and all your I's dotted and T's crossed before you make an arrest otherwise they will walk. You have to remember also that in the beginning of this investigation they were just looking at people involved in the Russia probe the Mueller investigation. When they realized that it led Back to Before the election they basically had to start from the beginning again that's how they found out about Carter page and general Flynn. If you think you could do a better job why don't you go to Washington and volunteeri your services and clear this up by the end of the week

Quote from: Dirtbomb on October 11, 2020, 07:43:39 PM
I think what you're failing to understand is these aren't your typical criminal investigations. Most investigations for crime are being conducted against Ordinary People most with criminal backgrounds. The people that are being investigated by Barr and Durham are public government officials, supposedly upstanding citizens with stellar reputations. Many worked in the highest ranks of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. You can't just start taking these people down while there is an ongoing investigation. These people know how to cover their tracks it's what they do. They have passed laws to protect themselves when they say we did this by the book They're not lying in most cases you have to remember they wrote the book. You need to have your ducks in a row and all your I's dotted and T's crossed before you make an arrest otherwise they will walk. You have to remember also that in the beginning of this investigation they were just looking at people involved in the Russia probe the Mueller investigation. When they realized that it led Back to Before the election they basically had to start from the beginning again that's how they found out about Carter page and general Flynn. If you think you could do a better job why don't you go to Washington and volunteeri your services and clear this up by the end of the week

Perfectly said! I completely agree.

Quote from: Dirtbomb on October 11, 2020, 07:43:39 PM
I think what you're failing to understand is these aren't your typical criminal investigations. Most investigations for crime are being conducted against Ordinary People most with criminal backgrounds. The people that are being investigated by Barr and Durham are public government officials, supposedly upstanding citizens with stellar reputations. Many worked in the highest ranks of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. You can't just start taking these people down while there is an ongoing investigation. These people know how to cover their tracks it's what they do. They have passed laws to protect themselves when they say we did this by the book They're not lying in most cases you have to remember they wrote the book. You need to have your ducks in a row and all your I's dotted and T's crossed before you make an arrest otherwise they will walk. You have to remember also that in the beginning of this investigation they were just looking at people involved in the Russia probe the Mueller investigation. When they realized that it led Back to Before the election they basically had to start from the beginning again that's how they found out about Carter page and general Flynn. If you think you could do a better job why don't you go to Washington and volunteeri your services and clear this up by the end of the week

I looked at my comments, I NEVER stated that I could do a "better job" nor "clear this up in a week". It would seem that certain people are eager to add words, claim that words were said which weren't or twist what was said to justify the status quo. This is exactly what happened to General Flynn, Roger Stone, Bill Barr, Carter Paige, Paul Manafort, Brent Kavenaugh and the Trump campaign as well...

Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 05:42:35 AM
I looked at my comments, I NEVER stated that I could do a "better job" nor "clear this up in a week". It would seem that certain people are eager to add words, claim that words were said which weren't or twist what was said to justify the status quo. This is exactly what happened to General Flynn, Roger Stone, Bill Barr, Carter Paige, Paul Manafort, Brent Kavenaugh and the Trump campaign as well...

The victim card? I wouldn't go there!

Funny, no where in my comment was the word "victim" nor the word "card"...